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If you read the thread, you may come to a different conclusion.
If you weren't reading it with such a defensive posture, you'd come to a different conclusion.
If you read the thread, you may come to a different conclusion.
It was truly an act of brilliance that LawDawg and you could figure out 'all on your own' that the APR scores related to football and not the university as a whole.
Yeah, some how I took that in wrong manner and was defensive about it. I thought you were being a cock, not sure why...
Duke #1 followed by Northwestern. No surprise there. Now Boise at #3 on the other hand........
If you and HornsStampede want to play down the Student portion of Student Athlete as being insignificant, that's your business.
Just expect to be called out on it, because you damn well know if Texas was toward the top, we'd all be hearing about the excellence.
Texas football scored a perfect 1000 for the 2012-13 season. I still dont give a shit. It is a BS stat. That serves to placate the masses. It does nothing to measure the quality of education.
Good job. Check where Nebraska's at? We're the supposed hayseed of the conference, no?
Yeah I'll answer that for you: We have our shit together.
If you and HornsStampede want to play down the Student portion of Student Athlete as being insignificant, that's your business.
Just expect to be called out on it, because you damn well know if Texas was toward the top, we'd all be hearing about the excellence.
Texas fans are 3 for 3 (batting 1000) in deflecting from the real point of the thread and article which is Football Student Athletes .
One does not get a worse APR grade because others get better grades. It's not a sliding scale. They are all graded equally by the same standard, hence the ties.
Texas Football logged a score that is 80th in FBS.
Think about that the next time a Texas blowhard is on here spouting "academic excellence", "partial qualifiers" and berating your team of choice.
Actually I was speaking about the topic on hand. You happen to be attempting to turn this into a NEb v Texas thing, which I think pretty much everyone on the this board is tired of seeing. Never been rivals and do not play each other, perhaps it is time to move on.
No, I'm pointing out that Texas fans are 3 for 3 in demeaning the academic accomplishments of other football programs. If the tables were turned and Texas was at the top we'd never hear the end of it. You, I, and everybody else on this board knows that.
Who was demeaned? I stated the APR was a sham. Not sure how that was demeaning. If Cal is the worst school in the PAC, it's hard to take APR as "academic accomplishment" seriously
Codaxx, it is rare that I disagree with you, but, the fact that UCB is at the bottom of the PAC actually shows the opposite. Under Tedford UCB was using their exemptions for ACT/SAT exclusively for football and basketball. Additionally, they were bringing in many JC transfers with minimum qualifications. Their APR score is reflective of what happens when an elite academic institution (and trust me it hurts to admit Berkley is an elite school) admits students who fall below their normal admission requirements. They admitted kids that had no hope of competing in the courses the university offered.Who was demeaned? I stated the APR was a sham. Not sure how that was demeaning. If Cal is the worst school in the PAC, it's hard to take APR as "academic accomplishment" seriously
Codaxx, it is rare that I disagree with you, but, the fact that UCB is at the bottom of the PAC actually shows the opposite. Under Tedford UCB was using their exemptions for ACT/SAT exclusively for football and basketball. Additionally, they were bringing in many JC transfers with minimum qualifications. Their APR score is reflective of what happens when an elite academic institution (and trust me it hurts to admit Berkley is an elite school) admits students who fall below their normal admission requirements. They admitted kids that had no hope of competing in the courses the university offered.
I hold no false beliefs on this, I know at the majority of the big schools the name should be athlete-student not student athlete. Places like Stanford, Penn State, ND, NW etc. examples of Student-Athlete oriented programs.
You are right though APR, is a suspect measure. I prefer the GSR's for evaluating academic performance. If any of you have not read it, the Bootleg runs an annual report on GSR/APR's. What really is startling for some of the bottom schools is not only the comparison of athlete graduation rates to the general student population, but the ethnic divide in the athletes' graduation rates. Some of these schools should be ashamed of how few of their African-American athletes graduate compared to the Caucasian students.
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