Amari Cooper

[BigFin]

Coop and Dak - Pro Bowl bound

I think Dak has a career year:
Contract year
Full year of Cooper
Emergence of Gallup and the deep ball
Signed Cobb

4000+yd/30+td, 500+ rushing yards

 

[Schmoopy1000]

well i mean he has to know he doesnt come close to being in that category.

TBH he came on with the cowboys BUT

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he had 725 yards receiving with the cowboys in 9 games
He had 4 games with under 40 receiving yards! 1 game under 60! over half his games.........
2 games with a good 75 yards
2 MONSTER games

397 of is 725 yards came in 2 games
55% of his receiving yards came in 2 games last year.......
and he wasnt mr consistent to begin with , thats how he got traded.......

hes got massive upside.....but....TBH once i actually looked at his stats........Did he really
turn a corner?

You have to sign him, but he should be getting B.Cooks or watkins kinda money IMHO......that should be his market

well like I said sounds like he has his head on straight.
So many lesser players want record breaking money because it is their turn for a contract.

 

[SteelersPride]

well like I said sounds like he has his head on straight.
So many lesser players want record breaking money because it is their turn for a contract.

I agree

 

[Godstree]

I think Dak has a career year:
Contract year
Full year of Cooper
Emergence of Gallup and the deep ball
Signed Cobb

4000+yd/30+td, 500+ rushing yards

I will forgive you but you left off Superbowl MVP.

 

[snookdad]

Cooper is the real deal and will be a top 5 to 7 type wr this season.

 

[SteelersPride]

Cooper is the real deal and will be a top 5 to 7 type wr this season.

no troll, can you explain the rationale

 

[snookdad]

no troll, can you explain the rationale

1 I think that he wasn't a fit in the Raider nation not scheme wise but team philosophy and mentality.

2. Elite talent

3. In the 7 or 8 games he played in Dallas in that small sample size if you, put his numbers over a 16 game season he goes for 1,500 plus and 10 plus touchdowns.

4. Can run every route, I say he's an elite route runner with good not great top end speed.

5. Contract year

 

[snookdad]

This is not a stretch Steelers pride he was already a 10ish wr

 

[SteelersPride]

1 I think that he wasn't a fit in the Raider nation not scheme wise but team philosophy and mentality.

2. Elite talent

3. In the 7 or 8 games he played in Dallas in that small sample size if you, put his numbers over a 16 game season he goes for 1,500 plus and 10 plus touchdowns.

4. Can run every route, I say he's an elite route runner with good not great top end speed.

5. Contract year

How is he an elite talent? Lots of guys can run routes, and I broke down his Dallas games over 50% of them he had under 50 yards and 55% of his yards in two games

 

[SteelersPride]

This is not a stretch Steelers pride he was already a 10ish wr

No he wasn’t. I’m not trolling but break his numbers down

 

[snookdad]

No he wasn’t. I’m not trolling but break his numbers down

ive watched a lot of his film, he separates very early in and out of his breaks. To borrow a baseball term he's a 5 tool player. My question to you is what is he lacking? He's had drops, but that is a focus issue. Once he became a Cowboy this wasn't an issue

 

[SteelersPride]

ive watched a lot of his film, he separates very early in and out of his breaks. To borrow a baseball term he's a 5 tool player. My question to you is what is he lacking? He's had drops, but that is a focus issue. Once he became a Cowboy this wasn't an issue

There’s lots of 5 tools that don’t make it. Not saying he’s not good but his inconsistencies and downfalls are wel documented. And looking at his gamelogs , he was very very inconsistent again with the cowboys. Assuming it all comes together then yeah he’s very good. As it stands it’s a pure toss up

 

[snookdad]

How is he an elite talent? Lots of guys can run routes, and I broke down his Dallas games over 50% of them he had under 50 yards and 55% of his yards in two games

His time in Dallas he 725 yards, 53 rec, 13.7 avg 6 TDS that's over 9 games. I'm not going to cherry pick between games. That's why its based over an average. This is just my opinion and somewhat of a prediction. I think he's going to see close to 135 targets and he will catch between 85 and 90 balls. I think having Zeke only makes him better. I think the growth of Gallup and the addition of Cobb makes him better. I believe with Dak improving as a passer in his 4th year and a new young OC. All these things favor Cooper. He was never on a roster like this in Oakland. Because of Zeke you cant just double down on him. Remember teams play Dak with 8 in the box so he saw a little of single man coverage. If teams continue with this strategy he's going to make teams pay. Hey in January you and I can revisit this conversation. One of use will look really smart. Only time will tell.

So what do you see in him you don't like ?

 

[snookdad]

There’s lots of 5 tools that don’t make it. Not saying he’s not good but his inconsistencies and downfalls are wel documented. And looking at his gamelogs , he was very very inconsistent again with the cowboys. Assuming it all comes together then yeah he’s very good. As it stands it’s a pure toss up

That's why this is just a prediction its not 100% fact base, but I think the sigs point to him taking the next step in our system.

 

[snookdad]

There’s lots of 5 tools that don’t make it. Not saying he’s not good but his inconsistencies and downfalls are wel documented. And looking at his gamelogs , he was very very inconsistent again with the cowboys. Assuming it all comes together then yeah he’s very good. As it stands it’s a pure toss up

Would you agree him not being Happy in Oakland was a factor in his inconsistencies. What help did he have in Oakland, I think that was also a factor.

 

[snookdad]

well i mean he has to know he doesnt come close to being in that category.

TBH he came on with the cowboys BUT

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he had 725 yards receiving with the cowboys in 9 games
He had 4 games with under 40 receiving yards! 1 game under 60! over half his games.........
2 games with a good 75 yards
2 MONSTER games

397 of is 725 yards came in 2 games
55% of his receiving yards came in 2 games last year.......
and he wasnt mr consistent to begin with , thats how he got traded.......

hes got massive upside.....but....TBH once i actually looked at his stats........Did he really
turn a corner?

You have to sign him, but he should be getting B.Cooks or watkins kinda money IMHO......that should be his market

I don't disagree wit this Steelers pride

 

[snookdad]

I'm hopeful

 

[SteelersPride]

His time in Dallas he 725 yards, 53 rec, 13.7 avg 6 TDS that's over 9 games. I'm not going to cherry pick between games. That's why its based over an average. This is just my opinion and somewhat of a prediction. I think he's going to see close to 135 targets and he will catch between 85 and 90 balls. I think having Zeke only makes him better. I think the growth of Gallup and the addition of Cobb makes him better. I believe with Dak improving as a passer in his 4th year and a new young OC. All these things favor Cooper. He was never on a roster like this in Oakland. Because of Zeke you cant just double down on him. Remember teams play Dak with 8 in the box so he saw a little of single man coverage. If teams continue with this strategy he's going to make teams pay. Hey in January you and I can revisit this conversation. One of use will look really smart. Only time will tell.

So what do you see in him you don't like ?

Of
Course u won’t cherry pick games since most damage came in 2 games.

 

[SteelersPride]

I don't disagree wit this Steelers pride

Fair enough. That’s where I am. A load of talent with vast consistency issues. Dude has it all. But so does let’s say aj green. What separates them?

 

[SteelersPride]

Would you agree him not being Happy in Oakland was a factor in his inconsistencies. What help did he have in Oakland, I think that was also a factor.

I would agree it could be. But sans zeke not
Much offensive help in Dallas. Last year at least