All ACC Team announced:

[bigesse16]

I can't believe no one from FSU was 1st team All ACC on their defense. They were tops in scoring defense, total defense, rush defense, and pass defense. They had only two on 2nd team as well. We finished 2nd in all of those categories other than pass (5th). So the top two defenses in the league had no first teamers and six second teamers? FSU and VT must be lacking talent compared to the rest of the league.

 

[ACC_HOKIES]

Off topic, but I didn't want to start another thread.

Any thoughts on who Beamer will nominate for the Dudley Award? I think I remember him preferring to nominate senior leaders.

 

[vtpoop]

Off topic, but I didn't want to start another thread.

Any thoughts on who Beamer will nominate for the Dudley Award? I think I remember him preferring to nominate senior leaders.

Wow, that is a great question. You're right, he usually does nominate a senior. That said, I don't see how he couldn't nominate Wilson this year, especially after being a unanimous first-team All-ACC pick.

 

[vtpoop]

Wonder who UVa will nominate? Chase Minnifield's mouth?

 

[uncfan103]

I can't believe no one from FSU was 1st team All ACC on their defense. They were tops in scoring defense, total defense, rush defense, and pass defense. They had only two on 2nd team as well. We finished 2nd in all of those categories other than pass (5th). So the top two defenses in the league had no first teamers and six second teamers? FSU and VT must be lacking talent compared to the rest of the league.

I would like to know what they base their stats on. Because Kevin Reddick wasnt honorable mention, but Zach Brown was a first teamer. Zach Brown is super fast, but i think Reddick is a better player. Hosley has better stats than Chase Minnifield. Are they voting for the players with good stats, or who play better, who the players that they have heard of?

 

[jeffro151]

Off topic, but I didn't want to start another thread.

Any thoughts on who Beamer will nominate for the Dudley Award? I think I remember him preferring to nominate senior leaders.

VT- Danny Coale
UVa-Perry Jones

 

[jeffro151]

Wonder who UVa will nominate? Chase Minnifield's mouth?

smh, obsess much?

 

[vtpoop]

smh, obsess much?

LOL. It's a VT forum, dude. Am I the only one that sees the irony in this statement?

 

[jeffro151]

Hosley has better stats than Chase Minnifield.

Chase Minnifield- 3 INT, 1 TD, 50 tackles, 1.5 sacks, 8 pass breakups, 11 pass deflections

Jayron Hosley- 3 INT, 56 tackles, 8 pass breakups, 11 pass deflections


Yes, Hosley definitely has better stats than Minnifield.

Do any of you actually look for the comparing stats before talking shit?

 

[VT_Football_Fan]

Chases 3 INTs came off of Sean Renfree, Tevon Washington, and Brian Reader (Idaho QB).

And Jayron played two less games. Practically three since he was only in for one series vs WF.

 

[NickVT10]

Chase Minnifield- 3 INT, 1 TD, 50 tackles, 1.5 sacks, 8 pass breakups, 11 pass deflections

Jayron Hosley- 3 INT, 56 tackles, 8 pass breakups, 11 pass deflections


Yes, Hosley definitely has better stats than Minnifield.

Do any of you actually look for the comparing stats before talking shit?

I watched Minnifield get dominated by our 3rd maybe even 4th best receiver. That and Jayron played in less games makes it obvious.

 

[jeffro151]

Chases 3 INTs came off of Sean Renfree, Tevon Washington, and Brian Reader (Idaho QB).

And Jayron played two less games. Practically three since he was only in for one series vs WF.

Since when has it ever mattered what QB the INT was thrown by? Oh yeah, never. Renfree is a solid QB and would excel with more playmakers, the others not so much. Take your O&M glasses off for just a second, and you will see that Hosley's stats are not better than Minnifields. They are practically identical. Minnifield probably got the nod due to being a senior.

 

[jeffro151]

I watched Minnifield get dominated by our 3rd maybe even 4th best receiver. That and Jayron played in less games makes it obvious.

Again, one game does not take away from an otherwise solid season. Jayron did play in 1 less game, but who's fault is that? It certainly isn't the voters or Minnifield's.

 

[vtpoop]

Stats aside, I thought Jayron had a very average season this year. Injury certainly played into that. Just curious to know where he would be projected to go in the draft. I think he'd be better suited to stay another year.

 

[bigesse16]

Again, one game does not take away from an otherwise solid season. Jayron did play in 1 less game, but who's fault is that? It certainly isn't the voters or Minnifield's.

Jayron left in the first quarter against Wake, missed BC, and was played sparingly against Duke and still put up numbers as good as Minnifield, which is pretty sad because Hosley did not have a great year.

 

[NickVT10]

Stats aside, I thought Jayron had a very average season this year. Injury certainly played into that. Just curious to know where he would be projected to go in the draft. I think he'd be better suited to stay another year.

He is graded as an 86 right now by Scouts Inc. Bottom of the top 32 grade out at 88 so likely 2-3 round. DW is an 83 also.

Jayron did have a pretty average season and injuries slowed him. When he was healthy he was playing good.

 

[jeffro151]

Jayron left in the first quarter against Wake, missed BC, and was played sparingly against Duke and still put up numbers as good as Minnifield, which is pretty sad because Hosley did not have a great year.

Stats are hard to compare for DB's though. Maybe the opposing QB targeted the receiver that Hosley was covering more than the same for Minnifield. We can sit here and bitch and moan all yall want to, but it's not going to change the vote.

 

[uncfan103]

Again, one game does not take away from an otherwise solid season. Jayron did play in 1 less game, but who's fault is that? It certainly isn't the voters or Minnifield's.

Yes, Hosley definitely has better stats than Minnifield.

Do any of you actually look for the comparing stats before talking crap?
Hosley played significantly less than Minnifield yet they had the same stats. Are those 1.5 sacks suppose to make Minnifields stats look better than Hosley? And you showed TD, why not int return yards? They have very identical stats. Regardless, i just wanted to know what these voters are basing their picks on? Draft stock, conference games, the names they've heard of, or their actual ability and the season they had.

 

[jeffro151]

Yes, Hosley definitely has better stats than Minnifield.

Do any of you actually look for the comparing stats before talking crap?
Hosley played significantly less than Minnifield yet they had the same stats. Are those 1.5 sacks suppose to make Minnifields stats look better than Hosley? And you showed TD, why not int return yards? They have very identical stats. Regardless, i just wanted to know what these voters are basing their picks on? Draft stock, conference games, the names they've heard of, or their actual ability and the season they had.

Of course someone that has recored a sack looks better than someone who hasn't. Why wouldn't it?

 

[uncfan103]

Of course someone that has recored a sack looks better than someone who hasn't. Why wouldn't it?

Of course it does, but you make it seem like Hosley hasnt had the better stats even though he has. The stats you listed prove my points. One player had a touchdown and 1.5 sacks. The other had more tackles, equal the other things you listed, and just as many INT return yards, in fewer games. I dont see how you can argue that Minnifield had any better statistics than Hosley. It all looks the same to me. But i dont care about that, do you know the criteria the voters use when picking their teams?