4/23 D-Backs vs. WORLD CHAMPS

[Stokes1931]

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Leave the GDT posting to tzill

 

[calsnowskier]

I sense a curse-laden tzill rant coming in this thread

I am not certain tz is still with us. I know he is spending a lot of time in the GDT at the other place.

 

[SFGRTB]

 

[SFGRTB]

I am not certain tz is still with us. I know he is spending a lot of time in the GDT at the other place.

Are you telling me I have to pick up the slack for TWO posters now?

 

[ColinCoby]

I sense a curse-laden tzill rant coming in this thread

Guaranteed!

 

[SFGRTB]

I know it's best to put this to rest, BUT, I think every 3rd base coach in the league and this guy right here would have sent Pablo there. 2-outs, game winning situation, at home. Put the pressure on the defense, they are on the road and likely jittery. Ross had to make a play and he did

/end rant.

 

[Stokes1931]

I am not certain tz is still with us. I know he is spending a lot of time in the GDT at the other place.

Our season is doomed for sure, now.

 

[calsnowskier]

I know it's best to put this to rest, BUT, I think every 3rd base coach in the league and this guy right here would have sent Pablo there. 2-outs, game winning situation, at home. Put the pressure on the defense, they are on the road and likely jittery. Ross had to make a play and he did

/end rant.

I don't think the play is hat defensible. Shallow RFer, slow runner, your team is hot, 2 outs...

I like Flan, and think that his aggressive style, as a whole, is good. But that call was bone-headed.

 

[calsnowskier]

Our season is doomed for sure, now.

It would suck, for sure, but so be it...

 

[ColinCoby]

I know it's best to put this to rest, BUT, I think every 3rd base coach in the league and this guy right here would have sent Pablo there. 2-outs, game winning situation, at home. Put the pressure on the defense, they are on the road and likely jittery. Ross had to make a play and he did

/end rant.

Generally I'd agree with you, but in this case the D-Backs needed to absolutely fall apart on that play for Pablo to score.

If we recreate that play 100 times, how many times does Pablo score? I think 5 percent of the time is being very generous. He was out by 5 miles.

If Belt gets a chance to hit there, how many times out of 100 does he get a hit? 20-25 percent?

 

[calsnowskier]

Generally I'd agree with you, but in this case the D-Backs needed to absolutely fall apart on that play for Pablo to score.

If we recreate that play 100 times, how many times does Pablo score? I think 5 percent of the time is being very generous. He was out by 5 miles.

If Belt gets a chance to hit there, how many times out of 100 does he get a hit? 20-25 percent?

 

[SFGRTB]

Generally I'd agree with you, but in this case the D-Backs needed to absolutely fall apart on that play for Pablo to score.

If we recreate that play 100 times, how many times does Pablo score? I think 5 percent of the time is being very generous. He was out by 5 miles.

If Belt gets a chance to hit there, how many times out of 100 does he get a hit? 20-25 percent?

I would say that more often than 5/100 times the ball trails up the line, short-hops the catcher, slips out of Ross's hand or is weak. Also, you are at home and you will get the last at-bat regardless. This team already showed that it will fight until the end.

Agree to disagree I guess.

 

[tzill]

I am not certain tz is still with us. I know he is spending a lot of time in the GDT at the other place.

Oh, I'm still here....

And I do NOT APPROVE of tonight's game. If we had just played defense, we win 4-3....

still and all, I'm going tomorrow and will do my best to post the GDT. Bum for the series and then off to the Whale's Vagina.

 

[msgkings322]

Schulman thinks Flannery was right to send Panda:

SF Giants coach Tim Flannery should sleep soundly after failed Panda send | San Francisco Giants: The Splash | an SFGate.com blog

 

[ColinCoby]

Schulman thinks Flannery was right to send Panda:

SF Giants coach Tim Flannery should sleep soundly after failed Panda send | San Francisco Giants: The Splash | an SFGate.com blog

Well Schulman is an idiot!

In a situation where the run wins you the game, I agree with the decision to send the runner about 99% of the time. I think the possible mistakes Schulman mentions, included bouncing a throw or airmailing it over the catcher's head, are FAR more likely to occur if it's a close play. I would love to see the replay, and view where Pablo was as Ross released the ball. Had he touched 3rd yet?

Again, I think the chances of Panda scoring were so low, you might as well give Belt the chance there. Just my take.

 

[msgkings322]

Well Schulman is an idiot!

In a situation where the run wins you the game, I agree with the decision to send the runner about 99% of the time. I think the possible mistakes Schulman mentions, included bouncing a throw or airmailing it over the catcher's head, are FAR more likely to occur if it's a close play. I would love to see the replay, and view where Pablo was as Ross released the ball. Had he touched 3rd yet?

Again, I think the chances of Panda scoring were so low, you might as well give Belt the chance there. Just my take.

I agree 100% with your take, just thought it interesting that someone reasonably credible saw it another way.

 

[ColinCoby]

I agree 100% with your take, just thought it interesting that someone reasonably credible saw it another way.

It's a fun debate. Can be argued both ways.

Of course, my argument is superior.

 

[SFGRTB]

Good to see Hank on my side

 

[calsnowskier]

I hate to argue to fiercely on this point because, like I said yesterday, I like flan.

I just think, IN THAT SITUATION, he was wrong. Simple as that. Move on.

 

[GiantsPackersChamps2011]

My thread still lives!!!

I understand completely the decision in a game to send a runner with 2 outs from second. What I don't understand is the decision to send Pablo Sandoval home from second on a short hit to Ross