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I sure as heck am not cutting our only good outside receiver when we are close to a championship, but it appears to me that Dez does not get doubled nearly as often most top WRs. Teams just aren't that worried about him getting behind them and he just doesn't put up the types of numbers that the others do. Now in the red zone, I agree, but not all game long.


Just narrow minded as usual
 

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Zay Jones couldn't hold Dez Bryant's jock strap...[/QUOTE

opinions vary
And Jones would not be holding Dez'z Jock strap because Dez is a receiver not a DB :D :suds:

its all good everybody has an opinion in the end none of them matter only what the team does with regards to players it all that counts in the end
 

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You need to retake "Quote 101", apparently you failed that course.
 

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Highly doubtful IMO

Cowboys reportedly in the mix for DeMarcus Ware, Adrian Peterson

A pair of future Hall of Famers could be headed to Dallas this offseason



When a player is nearing the end of his career, it's not uncommon for him to want to latch on with a Super Bowl contender for a shot at a ring. It's also not uncommon for a player to want to play close to home -- whether that home is where he was born, where he grew up, or where he played during the early part of his career and started his adult life. When those two desires collide, rumors start flying.

And right now, there are rumors that both DeMarcus Ware and Adrian Peterson could be headed down to Dallas to play for the Cowboys. Per ESPN.com:

When Vikings running back Adrian Peterson was asked last month to name teams he would consider joining to finish his career if he leaves Minnesota, he mentioned the Texans, Buccaneers and Giants.

But there is a belief in league circles that the Dallas Cowboys could also be in play for the potential free agent, according to league sources.

One league source said that if the Vikings and Peterson could not agree on a restructured contract, the Cowboys could be an option.

Linebacker DeMarcus Ware also is leaving the door open to play next season in Dallas, where he spent the first nine seasons of his standout career.

Ware, 34, still feels strongly about the Broncos, but Dallas also holds a special place for him. Ware still owns a home in the Dallas area, his two children live there, and it would be a full-circle way to finish a career that has seen Ware voted to nine Pro Bowls and rack up 138.5 sacks.

The desire to play in Dallas makes some sense for players looking for a ring: the Cowboys went 13-3 in 2016 and are led by two star rookies and the best offensive line in football, which features three All-Pros age 26 or younger. They look set up to compete over the next few seasons. As for the "close to home" angle, Peterson grew up in Palestine, Texas, which is just two hours away from Dallas. And Ware, as mentioned, still has a home and his family in the Dallas area. So on that level, these rumblings make sense.

From a personnel and opportunity standpoint, Ware makes a heck of a lot more sense in Dallas than Peterson does.

Ware is a pass rusher, and the Cowboys badly need help in that area. In fact, it's likely their biggest area of need. Their last two playoff appearances have ended with losses to the Green Bay Packers on days where they could not get nearly enough pressure on Aaron Rodgers. Ware is more of a rotational player now at his advanced age, but the Cowboys could do a heck of a lot worse than adding him to the stable of mediocre rushers they have on hand and then letting Rod Marinelli work his magic. Given his age (he'll be 35 in July), recent injury history, history in Dallas, and the fact that he's already transitioned into the "part-time player" phase of his career, it's also possible that the Cowboys could get Ware on the cheap.

Peterson, though, would have to accept a clear backup role behind Ezekiel Elliott, who is now the foundation of the team's offense. Right off the bat, that seems pretty unlikely. But even if Peterson were to accept that role, he'd also likely have to accept backup money. The Cowboys already devoted the No. 4 overall pick in the draft to a running back (Elliott) and are currently on the hook for the ninth-most cap dollars at the position for the 2017 season, per Spotrac, though they'll move up to eighth if the Vikings do indeed cut ties with Peterson. Going from a $12 million salary to whatever "good backup" money is would represent a huge pay cut for AP, who isn't likely to score another big contract after this offseason -- especially if he goes to Dallas to work as the backup to a workhorse.
 

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If Ware doesn't need to be paid like a superstar he would be a great fit. All comes down to the money.
 

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Not sure he has anything left in the tank but Mario Williams just got released by Miami. If he's cheap may be worth a gamble as a situational rusher.
 

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Not sure he has anything left in the tank but Mario Williams just got released by Miami. If he's cheap may be worth a gamble as a situational rusher.
Why not check him out. I think he comes in cheap.
 

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Why not check him out. I think he comes in cheap.

Have read that Willaims has an abrasive personality. Williams couldn't even get along with Rex Ryan in Buffalo - Ryan is well known to be a "player's coach".

Plus Williams is old and no longer very productive.

If Dallas is going to bring in an old vet as a situational pass rusher, it should be DWare - and only if it is cheap.
 

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Have read that Willaims has an abrasive personality. Williams couldn't even get along with Rex Ryan in Buffalo - Ryan is well known to be a "player's coach".

Plus Williams is old and no longer very productive.

If Dallas is going to bring in an old vet as a situational pass rusher, it should be DWare - and only if it is cheap.
I guess you are right about that. Dware could finish here, it would be a great story.
 

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I get what some posters are saying about Dez right now. Production vs. Salary.
No one is saying Dez isn't a talent.
I also get what one of the posters said about not replacing Dez with a Rookie.
The Good news is we wouldn't get rid of Dez this year no matter since the Cap implications I imagine would be huge. Which means we could go get that young WR this year & have Dez & see what happens for the following year. I do see the logic of replacing Dez though with a Young guy once the cap allows it. I would ride in that boat.

Side note.
I would take Julio Jones for 17 mil a year all day every day! :nod:
 

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The Good news is we wouldn't get rid of Dez this year no matter since the Cap implications I imagine would be huge.
Incredibly huge. There is ZERO chance of Dez being cut this year. No team without a decent outside #2 would cut Dez from a Football perspective and from a cap perspective its not even possible unless it happens before next month when his 2017 salary becomes 100% guaranteed. If we cut him pre 6/1, but after 3/13 his cap hit goes from $17M to $25M. Even if we cut him post 6/1 we save nothing. Not a penny. $17M either way. If we cut him before 3/13 his cap hit goes from $17M to $12M but you lose the player. You just don't do that with a player that you need. Now starting next year if we find another #1 WR it becomes more possible from a cap perspective, but needs to make sense from a Football perspective first and foremost which it probably won't.
 

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All this get rid of Dez talk is ridiculous. Dez normally draws the other teams best CB, making the other WRs job easier.Willams is replaceable look at that side of the field.
 

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I don't think anyone was suggesting this year, but I think the thought has merit b4 signing him to another large contract. Dez to me is borderline top 10.
 

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What are our thoughts on Victor Cruz? Did the Giants misuse him? Does he have anything left?
 

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I'm not sure Cruz is that much an upgrade from what we have with the Baylor wide. I think Gargon would be but he seems to be looking for $$.
 

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As expected, creates about $17 million in space.

Needed to be done considering they were "Projected" to be 11 to 12M over. So now they have 5 or 6M to spend, including draft picks. More contracts will have to be redone.
 

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As expected, creates about $17 million in space.


Dallas had to restructure at least Frederick. They did not have to restructure both. At least Jerry/Stephen didn't completely max out the restructure dollars on both of these contracts (silver lining).

This was an expected move, I just don't agree with restructuring Smith for a 3rd time (in a row!). That's how good contracts, like the one Smith originally signed, end up turning into albatrosses. I know Smith's contract was always intended to be restructured once or twice, but three in a row? This organization never learns, and every year they have to get creative with the math to free up cap room. It's tiring.

Won't be surprised if in another couple years Smith's contract becomes untenable and Dallas is forced to make an uncomfortable decision because of it.

On the bright side, this probably means Dallas is going after a player (or two) in free agency.

Also, I think this bodes well for Dallas trading Romo as opposed to releasing him - just a hunch on this one, but with cap room to work with Dallas could feasibly keep Romo, thus increasing their leverage in any potential trade negotiations. No matter what, Dallas has to carry Romo's cap figure until 6/1/2017, that said might as well get something for him.
 

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Dallas had to restructure at least Frederick. They did not have to restructure both. At least Jerry/Stephen didn't completely max out the restructure dollars on both of these contracts (silver lining).

This was an expected move, I just don't agree with restructuring Smith for a 3rd time (in a row!). That's how good contracts, like the one Smith originally signed, end up turning into albatrosses. I know Smith's contract was always intended to be restructured once or twice, but three in a row? This organization never learns, and every year they have to get creative with the math to free up cap room. It's tiring.

Won't be surprised if in another couple years Smith's contract becomes untenable and Dallas is forced to make an uncomfortable decision because of it.

On the bright side, this probably means Dallas is going after a player (or two) in free agency.

Also, I think this bodes well for Dallas trading Romo as opposed to releasing him - just a hunch on this one, but with cap room to work with Dallas could feasibly keep Romo, thus increasing their leverage in any potential trade negotiations. No matter what, Dallas has to carry Romo's cap figure until 6/1/2017, that said might as well get something for him.
You and I must be reading this completely different. I'm reading that 17M gets the team around 5 to 6M under the cap. That's hardly enough to chase any key free agents.
 
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