2014-15 Around the League Thread

[nuraman00]

Papa John's Relaxes Promotional Rules to Account for 76ers' Awfulness | Bleacher Report

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[MHSL82]

Did Monty McCutchen Purposely Start the Clock Early, During the Final Play of Spurs vs. Clippers? | The Big Lead

 

[MHSL82]

Al Horford Flinched When a Basketball Hit the Rim on a Free Throw | The Big Lead

 

[nuraman00]

Today is the first Darko Day, I mean, Dark Day, of the playoffs.

Last year, it was Friday May 16, 2014.

 

[nuraman00]

OMG!


Atlanta's Kyle Korver out for the rest of the playoffs with an ankle injury | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo Sports

 

[nuraman00]

Atlanta's best chance is to go from a passing, 3-point shooting team, to a Big 3 of Horford, Millsap, Teague.

They have a Big 3, and they can step up and play like it.

They need to play in the paint more, and take less 3's, with Korver out.

12-4 Atlanta! They're doing it.

I'd ask them to rebound more, but if they can just score in the paint more, and efficiently, that should help.

 

[MHSL82]

Et Ty, LeBron? 14-37 shooting to get 37 points? 1 point per shot is in-LeBronish, but he's been shooting poorly anyway, not just for him. Rebounded from 0-10 and I liked the 18 rebounds and especially 13 assists.

 

[MHSL82]

Did not see the flagrant 2 call, but when down0-2, come on, Horford, leave no doubt, you're team needs you, especially without Korver. Don't know how it would have gone down with those two as games are played (strategically) different and are executed different with different personnel. But it would have to be their best chance with them, unless team effort goes up missing others (forced OT) or the coach normally played the wrong guys in wrong minutes or lineups). Some opportunities for those who stepped up might not have been there had those two not missed.

 

[nuraman00]

Did not see the flagrant 2 call, but when down0-2, come on, Horford, leave no doubt, you're team needs you, especially without Korver. Don't know how it would have gone down with those two as games are played (strategically) different and are executed different with different personnel. But it would have to be their best chance with them, unless team effort goes up missing others (forced OT) or the coach normally played the wrong guys in wrong minutes or lineups). Some opportunities for those who stepped up might not have been there had those two not missed.

It was not worthy of a flagrant 2. I will be very surprised if he's suspended, and wouldn't agree with it.

I think it would be some justice if it was downgraded to a flagrant 1. Obviously they're not going to replay game 3 with Horford in, but it would at least give proper credence to the play, that it wasn't as bad as the refs called it.

Actually, it pretty much looked like incidental contact when two players are diving for the ball.

Dellavedova has also been involved in 3 contentious plays (Taj Gibson; Korver; Horford). I think only the Gibson one was bad, the others are just normal plays when scrambling for the ball.

Horford was playing very well too, with 14 quick points and a lot of rebounds. They also needed their best rebounder, and best big passer.

Horford admitted as much after the game, that he has to keep his composure, and he can't let his team down like this, though. He has to know better too, but also implied that Dellavedova has been in too many questionable plays, and he's getting a bad reputation among the NBA.

 

[nuraman00]

Et Ty, LeBron? 14-37 shooting to get 37 points? 1 point per shot is in-LeBronish, but he's been shooting poorly anyway, not just for him. Rebounded from 0-10 and I liked the 18 rebounds and especially 13 assists.

What did you mean by "is in"?

Also, do you mean 1 point per shot is NOT Lebron ish?

You also have to account for his 10 FTA's, and 8 makes. He shot the ball a lot, but they were still the right plays, no forced shots. And he passed the ball well, as usual.

I'm mentioning the FTAs, because you could have a bunch of points with no FGAs, and that's misleading. But his usage rate was high, when taking into account both FGAs and FTAs.

Clint McDaniels scored 8 points on 0 FGAs, and Jarron Jet did the same.

1996-03-20

2005-12-23 (grimm010's nickname for you-know-who).


Here's 15 points in 1 FGA.

1985-11-23

Aaron Baynes had 15 points in 3-3 FG and 9-9 FT.

2015-01-20


Buck Williams had 24 points going 5-5 FG and 14-14 FT.

1991-04-21

Darrick Martin went 0-8 FGA, and 15-15 from the foul line:

1996-12-14

Tony Massenburg went 0-1 FG, and 9-10 FT:

1991-04-16

Adrian Dantley scored 27 going 4-9 FG, and 19-19 FT. Sadly, he was wearing a Detroit jersey.

1987-12-15




Millsap went 11-11 from the line, and Teague 9-9. That's huge.

 

[nuraman00]

M-V-Teague had 0 turnovers.

Nice.

 

[MHSL82]

I meant "et tu" as in "et tu, Bruti" or whatever from Shakespeare's play on Caesar. I was saying LeBron turned in a Wesbrookesque game - a lot of points, but on a lot of shots. I don't like 37 on 37 shots. Westbrook was worse. Liked assists and rebounds, Noted he shot 14-27 after his 0-10 start. Also, noted he has shot poorly this year for him, more 30+ shot games making 10-13 or 25+ making under 10. But Cleveland does that to you, I guess. No Wade to open it up for you and the volume of shots go to you; perhaps, you are more tired. Still, I don't like average to poor shooting from LeBron.

 

[MHSL82]

I meant, un-Lebronish. Spellcheck for both tu and un. Tu means you in Latin and Spanish, yet it's changed to Yu? I don't have any friends I type with yu as their name, so I don't know how how that popped in the substitute words on spell check.

 

[nuraman00]

I meant, un-Lebronish. Spellcheck for both tu and un. Tu means you in Latin and Spanish, yet it's changed to Yu? I don't have any friends I type with yu as their name, so I don't know how how that popped in the substitute words on spell check.

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[nuraman00]

I meant "et tu" as in "et tu, Bruti" or whatever from Shakespeare's play on Caesar. I was saying LeBron turned in a Wesbrookesque game - a lot of points, but on a lot of shots. I don't like 37 on 37 shots. Westbrook was worse. Liked assists and rebounds, Noted he shot 14-27 after his 0-10 start. Also, noted he has shot poorly this year for him, more 30+ shot games making 10-13 or 25+ making under 10. But Cleveland does that to you, I guess. No Wade to open it up for you and the volume of shots go to you; perhaps, you are more tired. Still, I don't like average to poor shooting from LeBron.

I don't think players FG% change much regardless of the teammates they have. Historical data from all players suggests this. So if a player with other great offensive players, or not, the FG% usually doesn't change much.

Only consideration is if the player's role changes. (Expands / diminishes, or is used very differently from before).

So I don't think his current teammates are to explain why his FG% is worse this year. I guess maybe the past 2 years, he was great at FG%, and now he's only very good. It's hard to maintain how good he was.

Cleveland also averages 2.2 less fastbreak points per game than Miami last year, so maybe that's another factor.

If one doesn't agree with these two reasons, then I would just say "I don't really know why", and just point out at least he's still good, just not great, at FG%.

His FT% is also the lowest its been since 2007-2008. Changing teams shouldn't drop his FT% by 4%. I would chalk that up to another "I don't know."

His best steals season was his 2nd year, 2.2 a game (and a corresponding higher per 36 min steal rate too). I remember when I was following his steals that year, I thought we could have the next great steals person.

But, he never reached that level again (not even per 36). So, that's another minor disappointment to me.

 

[MHSL82]

I think his role has changed, but I don't know how much or how to quantify it.

 

[nuraman00]

I think his role has changed, but I don't know how much or how to quantify it.

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[nuraman00]

Draymond Green gets a 30 second medical timeout to try and put in a contact lens.



Jeff Van Gundy: What if I'm thirsty? Do I get a 30 second break to rehydrate myself?

 

[nuraman00]

I think his role has changed, but I don't know how much or how to quantify it.

I don't now if James played like this during the other series. I'm not sure.

But watching game 1 of the Finals, I definitely agree his role is different than how it was in Miami.

I'm just not sure anymore if they used him to this extent, in this manner, in the prior series.