2 sweeps in a row too much to ask?....Stros 6/12-14

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

 

[saddles]

What do we have to lose.

 

[saddles]

Now if we could just learn how to develop pitchers

 

[donaldson79]

Now if we could just learn how to develop pitchers

Well.....Let's hope we develop pitchers, players too actually, to date, better than we've done in the past.

I heard a show from Norm Hitzges the other day and he went through our top 10 picks for the last 10+ years. It covered 113 players.

And here were his top 3 players we've drafted/developed since 2004:

1. Gallo.....
2. Justin Smoak.....
3. And the pitcher Hendrickson.

Even if Norm is wrong, are you impressed?

 

[jta4437]

Well.....Let's hope we develop pitchers, players too actually, to date, better than we've done in the past.

I heard a show from Norm Hitzges the other day and he went through our top 10 picks for the last 10+ years. It covered 113 players.

And here were his top 3 players we've drafted/developed since 2004:

1. Gallo.....
2. Justin Smoak.....
3. And the pitcher Hendrickson.

Even if Norm is wrong, are you impressed?

Holland was drafted in 2006, I'm pretty sure he'd crack the top 3

Or is his top 3 only consisting of the top 10 picks still?

 

[saddles]

Well.....Let's hope we develop pitchers, players too actually, to date, better than we've done in the past.

I heard a show from Norm Hitzges the other day and he went through our top 10 picks for the last 10+ years. It covered 113 players.

And here were his top 3 players we've drafted/developed since 2004:

1. Gallo.....
2. Justin Smoak.....
3. And the pitcher Hendrickson.

Even if Norm is wrong, are you impressed?

If he is going to include players we have traded away I think I could come up with some to put above Smoak.

No I am not impressed. Overall our development has been fine with position players, but we are really lacking in the pitching department. I really don't think drafting a whole lot of pitchers is the answer either. We have done that in the past and we just can't develop a long term #2 starting pitcher much less a #1 starter. That part of the organization has been a huge failure.

 

[saddles]

Holland was drafted in 2006, I'm pretty sure he'd crack the top 3

Or is his top 3 only consisting of the top 10 picks still?

Well above Smoak in my estimation.

 

[saddles]

Somehow when I think of our top pick this year I can't help but think of Donald Harris. I really don't like our first pick, but the next few seemed pretty good.

 

[jta4437]

Well above Smoak in my estimation.

Unless Smoak continues the season he's had thus far and then that season would probably trump anything that Holland has done thus far

 

[donaldson79]

Holland was drafted in 2006, I'm pretty sure he'd crack the top 3

Or is his top 3 only consisting of the top 10 picks still?

He was just examining our draft/development from the top 10 only from an illustration standpoint. But a solid one, at least to me, anyway.

IMO that's a pretty poor list of guys who you've drafted/developed during a decade plus.

 

[jta4437]

2000 - Scott Heard, Edwin Encarnacion, Laynce Nix, Nick Masset
2001 - Mark Teixeira (other than him I didn't even recognize any other names, pretty bad year minus Tex)
2002 - Drew Meyer, Kameron Loe (this one might be worse than 2001)
2003 - John Danks, Wes Littleton, Ian Kinsler, Scott Feldman
2004 - Eric Hurley, Thomas Diamond, Brandon Boggs, Travis Metcalf
2005 - John Mayberry Jr., Taylor Teagarden, Michael Kirkman, German Duran
2006 - Kasey Kiker, Chad Tracy, Chris Davis, Craig Gentry, Derek Holland
2007 - Blake Beavan, Julio Borbon, Neil Ramirez, Anthony Ranaudo, Mitch Moreland
2008 - Smoak, Robbie Ross, Joe Wieland, Tanner Roark
2009 - Tanner Scheppers, Robbie Erlin
2010 - Jake Skole, Luke Jackson, Mike Olt, Drew Robinson, Brett Nicholas, Jared Hoying, Nick Tepesch, Ryan Strausborger
2011 - Kevin Matthews, Zach Cone, Kyle Hendricks, Connor Sadzeck, Andrew Faulkner, Jerad Eickhoff, Ryan Rua, Nick Martinez, Brandon Finnegan, Carl Edwards
2012 - Lewis Brinson, Joey Gallo, Nick Williams, Alec Asher, Keone Kela
2013 - Chi Chi, Cody Ege
2014 - Luis Ortiz
2015 - Dillon Tate
2016 - Cole Ragans

List includes major Leaguers I recognized and our 1st round picks

 

[Nightcrawler]

Houstons scrub starter with a 6+ ERA is dominating us. Go figure. Maybe we can lower his era to 4 before the end of the night.

 

[jta4437]

Houstons scrub starter with a 6+ ERA is dominating us. Go figure. Maybe we can lower his era to 4 before the end of the night.

It's the 3rd inning

He's also not a scrub, he's one of their top prospects

 

[donaldson79]

Joey just missed his pitch to tie it up. "That close Chief".

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Hoying is worthless.

 

[donaldson79]

Hoying is worthless.

I take that back..........honestly.

He's a good/too very good CF. Kind of like DDJ, but a bigger/better armed/more powerful version. Certainly nothing else.

Frankly, I'd take DeShields as my fill-in/part-time-starter/PH or PR.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

I take that back..........honestly.

He's a good/too very good CF. Kind of like DDJ, but a bigger/better armed/more powerful version. Certainly nothing else.

Frankly, I'd take DeShields as my fill-in/part-time-starter/PH or PR.

And have Hoying start?

 

[Bmurph]

Terrible

 

[Bmurph]

and now Cashner is gonna just give it right back

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

and now Cashner is gonna just give it right back

not exactly the shutdown inning we needed.