Is Bryce Harper Worth 10 Years/$400M?

[skinzfan]

85 players in 2016 struck out at least 118x, and there are many more that could've had that much if they played closer to a full season...in this current pitcher friendly era, 118 K's for an everyday player isn't a great amount.

I agree but think 118x is a lot for someone who believes he's worth 40M a year. He should be batting 343 for that much money. If he's worth 40M, Mike Trout is worth 60M a year.

 

[Voltaire26]

Bryce Harper is worth $400 million to the Nationals or any other NL team. For some reason, I don't like him (that probably would change if he were on the Tigers). There are at least 10 platers that I think are worth more than Harper.

 

[StanMarsh51]

I agree but think 118x is a lot for someone who believes he's worth 40M a year. He should be batting 343 for that much money. If he's worth 40M, Mike Trout is worth 60M a year.

Trout's had multiple years striking out 150x plus, A-Rod during his prime had numerous years striking out 130x, etc so I think you're overvaluing them. I mean, is a K any worse than an empty popup or ground out?

It obviously really all depends on what Harper does the next 2 years...his 2015 was the best offensive season since Bonds, so if he can perform close to that, he'd be making a good case to be worth that $.

 

[skinzfan]

Just my opinion, 40M is approximately $250,000 a game. Somebody will sign him, hope it's not the Nats, he's no Mike Trout.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Just my opinion, 40M is approximately $250,000 a game. Somebody will sign him, hope it's not the Nats, he's no Mike Trout.

not many players are mike trout... But of all people who have a chance to be like trout, Harper is one... I still think Harper has more potential than Trout, and the great thing is, that we have seen that Harper CAN be better than trout...

Sometimes, you got to overpay a player just so you have someone... I feel like Washington would regret not resigning him, even if it is worth that much...

 

[The Oldtimer]

Yesterday, Bryce Harper informed the Washington Nationals that he wants a minimum 10 year, $400M contract when this contract is up in 2018. Should the Nats step up and give him an extension or a new contract for less than $40M a year? Where does it end? When does a league finally say 'NO". Players can't win games on their own, they need 8 other guys doing their job to be successful.

Is any player really worth $25,000 a game?

NO!!!!!

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I agree but think 118x is a lot for someone who believes he's worth 40M a year. He should be batting 343 for that much money. If he's worth 40M, Mike Trout is worth 60M a year.

We'll see.

Another couple years of anything close to his 2015 campaign, and I see Harper around $40MM per.

Harper certainly hasn't shown the consistency that Trout has, but his 2015 year at the plate was better than any year that Trout's had.

Also, comparing their contracts holds little water. Harper (thus far) has assumed the risk to reach free agency, Trout opted for the security and still got over $33MM per for his FA seasons.

As someone mentioned, what he does over the next two years will be huge for him.

 

[purguy12]

no not 10/400 but I can see 10/300-350 range

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

no not 10/400 but I can see 10/300-350 range

Hard to say without knowing what 2017/18 have in store for him. Anything near 2015, and $400MM is definitely in range. Remember, Trout got $34MM for his FA years without even being an unrestricted free agent.

 

[purguy12]

Hard to say without knowing what 2017/18 have in store for him. Anything near 2015, and $400MM is definitely in range. Remember, Trout got $34MM for his FA years without even being an unrestricted free agent.

True, I was just saying I dont think he is worth 40 mill a year. Will a team pay that much well there are only 3-4 teams that can offer that. Yankees will be in the Mix. The good thing about that year is their is a very good 2nd place prize if you lose out on Harper. Machado who will get close to what Harper gets. If Harper gets 10/400, Machado will get 10/350-375 range.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

True, I was just saying I dont think he is worth 40 mill a year. Will a team pay that much well there are only 3-4 teams that can offer that. Yankees will be in the Mix. The good thing about that year is their is a very good 2nd place prize if you lose out on Harper. Machado who will get close to what Harper gets. If Harper gets 10/400, Machado will get 10/350-375 range.

You're probably right. What if NYY gets them both? That'd be some crazy shit, no? They're going to have a fuckton of cash to spend that year.

Anyway, I know Machado has some serious value, but personally, I'm concerned about a player that's missed a fair amount of time and had both knees surgically repaired before his 22nd birthday.

 

[purguy12]

You're probably right. What if NYY gets them both? That'd be some crazy shit, no? They're going to have a fuckton of cash to spend that year.

Anyway, I know Machado has some serious value, but personally, I'm concerned about a player that's missed a fair amount of time and had both knees surgically repaired before his 22nd birthday.

Im a Big Yankee Fan and it wouldnt surprise me. They are setting up something big for that year. All these Cost cutting moves and not picking anyone up the last 2 years. I think we will see what we got and then go for the Kill and make a Big Splash. I rather see them land 1 and then get a Big time starter.

Good point on Machado.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I guess the real answer to the question on whether Harper is worth 40 MIL per year or not is to first answer whether the team wants to spend money or not... Doesn't matter how good a player is if he is the only player... Look at Trout, he is the best player in the game right now, and not even he can bring that shitty team into the playoffs... So they have to be willing to spend elsewhere to make Harper worthwhile... with one 40 mil player, a salary less than 120 MIL is pretty pointless...

BUT, by having one player like Harper, will make the BUSINESS money... fans will come to see the player...

 

[Mondo Jay]

I mean, is a K any worse than an empty popup or ground out?

At least some out are productive. Moving runners over, RBI groundouts, Sac Flies..

A strikeout ends any hope of something good happening (like a defensive error for instance).

Striking out a ton used to be frowned on, I do agree now that it is the norm (even for great players).

 

[StanMarsh51]

At least some out are productive. Moving runners over, RBI groundouts, Sac Flies..

A strikeout ends any hope of something good happening (like a defensive error for instance).

Striking out a ton used to be frowned on, I do agree now that it is the norm (even for great players).

Which is why I put the term 'empty' in front of popup/groundout. Sure, some can be productive, but the majority of a player's plate appearances are with bases empty, and in many of those with runners on, there's a chance that it won't be a productive out even if they make contact.

 

[Mondo Jay]

Which is why I put the term 'empty' in front of popup/groundout. Sure, some can be productive, but the majority of a player's plate appearances are with bases empty, and in many of those with runners on, there's a chance that it won't be a productive out even if they make contact.

I am pretty much of the school of thought that "put the ball in play and good things can happen". Of course growing up, baseball was taught a bit differently than it is today. Even up into college, we used to shorten up (even choke up on the bat) with 2 strikes and attempt to make contact. I almost never see that anymore. I do know that if you strike out, there is zero chance anything good will happen (except on a rare PB or WP).

I do understand that almost all "power hitters" will swing for the fence every time.

 

[StanMarsh51]

I am pretty much of the school of thought that "put the ball in play and good things can happen". Of course growing up, baseball was taught a bit differently than it is today. Even up into college, we used to shorten up (even choke up on the bat) with 2 strikes and attempt to make contact. I almost never see that anymore. I do know that if you strike out, there is zero chance anything good will happen (except on a rare PB or WP).

I do understand that almost all "power hitters" will swing for the fence every time.

Worse things can happen too, such as a double play or a force-out that gets a better/faster baserunner off the bases. The possibility of the things worse than a K need to be taken into account along with the possibility of the things better than a K.

 

[Mondo Jay]

Worse things can happen too, such as a double play or a force-out that might get a better/faster baserunner off the field.

This is true.

 

[ChiSoxFan]

Hard to say without knowing what 2017/18 have in store for him. Anything near 2015, and $400MM is definitely in range. Remember, Trout got $34MM for his FA years without even being an unrestricted free agent.

Pretty soon the dollar and the euro will be 1:1. Maybe he can request part of his salary in euro. You know, keep it interesting.

 

[Mike A. S.]

What do you guys think about trading Bryce Harper for Joey Votto & Billy Hamilton in a category-based, keeper fantasy league?