Top 5 College coaching jobs

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Can you for once take a thread serious?

 

[Wamu]

Can you for once take a thread serious?

Maybe, possibly...but I doubt it!

 

[Eco]

Did you read my reasoning for why Alabama didn't make the cut? Extreme amount of pressures. Once Saban leaves I don't know what coach is going to want to take on those expectations. Also, although Alabama is loaded with financial support, they don't have great local talent compared to Florida, Louisiana, Texas, Georgia. So they must go out of state to get their players. Sure Mississippi is nearby and they produce great talent, nonetheless Crimson Tide coach has to fly around the Southeast/west to get his guys.

Again, Alabama doesn't get a top 5 job because of the extreme heights of expectations that will come with the job.

Out of my top 5, every single one of them is high pressure. Alabama is not different. Alabama actually does produce good high quality talent. #7 in the country in fact, but if you think Mississippi does then I can't honestly take you seriously.

All 50 states, ranked by their percentage of the country's elite college football recruits

Alabama borders the best state in terms of recruiting, Florida, as well as the 4th ranked state in GA, so we are okay, I promise you.

Facilities at Alabama are top notch, so that's a giant plus.

You list Florida. But aren't they worse off in recruiting than Alabama? Yes, they are in the best recruiting state, but they compete against two large in-state rivals in FSU & Miami, plus they have poachers in Alabama that are a bigger brand in football than UF, and UGA is always picking Florida talent. Just because the talent is in your State, doesn't mean anything if you can't keep it at your school.

Texas is a nightmare currently as well. Thank goodness Baylor is going in the toilet, because in the State of Texas, UT is currently what, 6th?

1. TCU
2. Houston
3. Baylor
4. Texas A&M
5. Texas Tech
6. Texas?

So, they could be 4th, but the point is that they are currently in trouble and kids are going to want to go to a school that is the 5th best in their State, unless something changes. Not to mention your best in state Talent is flooded with teams that are currently bigger on a national scale, and therefore may not chose Texas like they would have 5 or so years ago.

 

[TexasExes98]

Out of my top 5, every single one of them is high pressure. Alabama is not different. Alabama actually does produce good high quality talent. #7 in the country in fact, but if you think Mississippi does then I can't honestly take you seriously.

All 50 states, ranked by their percentage of the country's elite college football recruits

Alabama borders the best state in terms of recruiting, Florida, as well as the 4th ranked state in GA, so we are okay, I promise you.

Facilities at Alabama are top notch, so that's a giant plus.

You list Florida. But aren't they worse off in recruiting than Alabama? Yes, they are in the best recruiting state, but they compete against two large in-state rivals in FSU & Miami, plus they have poachers in Alabama that are a bigger brand in football than UF, and UGA is always picking Florida talent. Just because the talent is in your State, doesn't mean anything if you can't keep it at your school.

Texas is a nightmare currently as well. Thank goodness Baylor is going in the toilet, because in the State of Texas, UT is currently what, 6th?

1. TCU
2. Houston
3. Baylor
4. Texas A&M
5. Texas Tech
6. Texas?

So, they could be 4th, but the point is that they are currently in trouble and kids are going to want to go to a school that is the 5th best in their State, unless something changes. Not to mention your best in state Talent is flooded with teams that are currently bigger on a national scale, and therefore may not chose Texas like they would have 5 or so years ago.

Rivals.com

 

[Eco]

Rivals.com

I didn't say you didn't recruit well. I said that the results are going to make it harder to recruit against the other Texas programs unless something changes.

 

[Deep Creek]

Not sure how you cannot say Alabama since we seem to be the best at recruiting over the past 10 years... but to each their own.

I'll go with:

1. Alabama
2. Texas/OSU
3. OSU/Texas
4. USC
5. Oklahoma

That is because of Saban, not because of the head football coaching job at Bama. Move Saban to any one of the other blue bloods, and the same happens. JMO

 

[Deep Creek]

Texas is a nightmare currently as well. Thank goodness Baylor is going in the toilet, because in the State of Texas, UT is currently what, 6th?

1. TCU
2. Houston
3. Baylor
4. Texas A&M
5. Texas Tech
6. Texas?

Texas and A&M are still the big dogs as far as recruiting goes.

If you remove the recruiting portion of a coaches duties, Patterson is by far the best IMHO. (And that is probably attributed to recruiting to TCU more than him.)

No way in hell Tech is ahead of any of them...except on the offensive side of the ball. I'd rank them dead last in the NATION in recruiting defensive players. They've changed DCs like we change underwear and it hasn't helped. Gotta be players.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

I didn't say you didn't recruit well. I said that the results are going to make it harder to recruit against the other Texas programs unless something changes.

Man you stepped in it fast. On these boards, do your research or this will happen often.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Texas and A&M are still the big dogs as far as recruiting goes.

If you remove the recruiting portion of a coaches duties, Patterson is by far the best IMHO. (And that is probably attributed to recruiting to TCU more than him.)

No way in hell Tech is ahead of any of them...except on the offensive side of the ball. I'd rank them dead last in the NATION in recruiting defensive players. They've changed DCs like we change underwear and it hasn't helped. Gotta be players.

Scary thing for Tech is coach Kliff gets out recruited badly by all the other P5 Texas schools. Maybe the death of Baylor will give them some of those top recruits, but I think those kids will just pick TCU or Texas like this year's class did.

 

[Eco]

Man you stepped in it fast. On these boards, do your research or this will happen often.

Easy now.

Listen, Texas should be top 3 coaching gigs around. The problem is the Big XI will suck until it's gets a conference championship, and you're in a State that has many teams that historically aren't great, winning and going to big bowls, while you struggle for a good season. I have always kind of liked Texas since Vince beat USC on his own, but the truth is, Marcel's hit on Colt McCoy in the NC was the end of UT, at least up until now.

UT will come back, and win more National Championships, but as a coaching gig, it's no less pressure filled than Bama is. Great programs expect results...yesterday.

 

[Eco]

Texas and A&M are still the big dogs as far as recruiting goes.

If you remove the recruiting portion of a coaches duties, Patterson is by far the best IMHO. (And that is probably attributed to recruiting to TCU more than him.)

No way in hell Tech is ahead of any of them...except on the offensive side of the ball. I'd rank them dead last in the NATION in recruiting defensive players. They've changed DCs like we change underwear and it hasn't helped. Gotta be players.

Sorry, I should have been more specific by what I was saying, that list was how good teams are on the field, not in recruiting. I'd be a moron to consider anybody being able to recruit better in Texas than UT. The facilities and all in Austin are what make it an elite spot for high school seniors.

 

[Codaxx]

I didn't say you didn't recruit well. I said that the results are going to make it harder to recruit against the other Texas programs unless something changes.

5 year results don't matter in this discussion.
It is about resources. Bama does have great recruiting grounds around them. I think people underestimate that, but I would always favor a scool with great in-state resources. Why I would have OSU, Texas, CA, Georgia, and Florida in the top 5. Those should be the easiest path to titles. Some of that is because Florida, Georgia, and Texas have seen major population growth the last 30 years. Florida would not have been on this list in the 70s.

 

[iowajerms]

Iowa. It pays well and won't get fired for going into a slump.

 

[Eco]

5 year results don't matter in this discussion.
It is about resources. Bama does have great recruiting grounds around them. I think people underestimate that, but I would always favor a scool with great in-state resources. Why I would have OSU, Texas, CA, Georgia, and Florida in the top 5. Those should be the easiest path to titles. Some of that is because Florida, Georgia, and Texas have seen major population growth the last 30 years. Florida would not have been on this list in the 70s.

Fair enough -- I see what you are saying, the only issue I have with FLA or TX are that their are other, large programs in that State (especially FLA). But I absolutely understand and agree that those states should be easier to recruit if you are one of the big dogs.

 

[trojanfan12]

Great programs expect results...yesterday.

^^^This^^^

The one thing that the top coaching jobs have in common is that they are all pressure filled jobs. You don't become a top job without a history of winning and that winning brings pressure.

 

[Goldbug]

In no particular order I would pick Oklahoma, Texas, Southern Cal, Alabama and Ohio State as the top jobs. But if I were a top coach I would also like Notre Dame, UCLA, Michigan, Florida State and LSU. There are a lot of good jobs in college football now that the pay scales have gone completely ballistic.

 

[Deep Creek]

Iowa. It pays well and won't get fired for going into a slump.

While you may have said this a little tongue in cheek, there is probably quite a bit of merit in it. Having high expectations is great...until it reaches the point of insanity. Very often, that insanity from fan bases comes with the big name schools.

 

[Goldbug]

While you may have said this a little tongue in cheek, there is probably quite a bit of merit in it. Having high expectations is great...until it reaches the point of insanity. Very often, that insanity from fan bases comes with the big name schools.

No kidding. Would you rather be on a high wire at a "super blue blood" school making $5.5 Million/year or at a good school making $3 Million/year knowing if you go 9-3 on a consistent basis and beat a "super blue blood" occasionally you are in a comfortable position? And who knows? Maybe lightening will strike and you pick off a surprise NC to become a local legend? Without the constant pressure of "what did you do for us lately, asshole?".

 

[Deep Creek]

No kidding. Would you rather be on a high wire at a "super blue blood" school making $5.5 Million/year or at a good school making $3 Million/year knowing if you go 9-3 on a consistent basis and beat a "super blue blood" occasionally you are in a comfortable position? And who knows? Maybe lightening will strike and you pick off a surprise NC to become a local legend? Without the constant pressure of "what did you do for us lately, asshole?".

I think this is exactly why Patterson has turned down many offers from the biggies. And rumor has it, he's making damned near blue blood type money. North of $4 million and some very lucrative stock non compensation based goodies from donors that never run through the system. Same for assistants. I graduated from HS with Sonny Cumbie's dad...he makes a lot more than what people think as an assistant.

 

[Codaxx]

I think this is exactly why Patterson has turned down many offers from the biggies. And rumor has it, he's making damned near blue blood type money. North of $4 million and some very lucrative stock non compensation based goodies from donors that never run through the system. Same for assistants. I graduated from HS with Sonny Cumbie's dad...he makes a lot more than what people think as an assistant.

I have heard Patterson is basically unfit to coach at a blue blood. He has total control at TCU. He also keeps everything behind the purple curtain. People do not think he could handle the politics and nonsense that comes with a blue blood job. This comes from TCU fans. The love what he has done, but they think he one of the biggest pricks walking the earth today.