Any News on CB Coach Mitchell’s Replacement

[GoldRusher]

Lyons should hire the CB replacement. There are some on this board who claimed Luck hired coaches for Dana. I would think Lyons could do the same.

Dana wanted this job filled last week.

I guess that ain't happening...

Wednesday is the day from from what Ive seen. No idea who it may be yet.

 

[WVUDAD]

You're unbelievable. You think that WVU can be a top team without spending money or provide for all athletics on campus without a revenue stream. You think WVU's budget should be the same as OWU's. When has WVU ever brought in a HC with the stock of an Urban Meyers? Oh, that's right, you will settle for anybody who has any type of college football experience. You always reference the MAC. Maybe we can pull one from there that will put us at the top of the Big 12 in 5 years. I doubt it, but you seem to hang your hat on it. Get rid of the revenue stream so we can't support anything. You are such a Purist. Right.

As far as the hot seat coaches, all I did was Google 2016 college football coaches and this was the top one. I don't place much stock in these as they are very subjective and even somebody of your caliber can put one together. I don't waste my time looking up stuff during a discussion with you because you live in fantasy land. You discount fact. Your romanticism for the way things were in past is getting sickening. Stick with OWU. You can probably get your ticket, hot dog, and a Coke all for$10. You want the Mountaineer programs to be above .500 without any type of funding. What a joke. I hope for your sake a GR's that they get rid of Dana and bring in Doc or a MAC coach. I will be amused watching this program crumble to the ground like it was under Stew's reign in the mighty Big East.

MAC coaches: Woody Hayes, Bo Shembechler, Ara Parseghian, Urban Meyer. to name just a few.
Of note is Randy Walker, who came out of the MAC to lead a sad sack Northwestern team to unheard of heights. Gary Pinkel took Missouri and transitioned them pretty well into the SEC. A little closer to home, Nehlen put WVU on the map, if not for him, we wouldn't be discussing this at all. Fantasy land, my friend, is a place where a .500 coach is defended with the fervency you do, I just do not understand the total allegiance that you and your buds have for Holgorsen. Holgorsen has a job today because Luck signed a totally one sided contract with him that WVU could not justify buying out this year. You guys want to belittle the BE, but want to overlook the fact that TCU came out of a MUCH weaker league than the BE and is atop the B12 today. Of course you don't place stock in those lists, as they disagree with your preconceived dream. I know of no business in the country where they hire an unproven guy with no experience to do a job, yet you seem to think that is the way to go, totally discounting experience in running a team at a smaller school prior to having to deal with much more than just the team at a major school. The strangest thing from the Holgorsen lovers is their near universal hatred of Huggins, they are totally committed to a .500 football coach, but want to fire a HOF basketball coach, maybe the Holgorsen lovers just hate people from WVa?????????

 

[WVUDAD]

Maisel: The MAC's rise to prominence

Mid-American Conference Coaches | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

We could do worse than hiring a coach from the MAC, works pretty well for OSU, the school some want to turn us into.

 

[bbwvfan]

He should fire Dana. That's what most of the people on this board wants. Bring in Doc or a MAC coach. Let's go Mountaineers. Things are looking bright for us.

You are tracking. Lyons should have fired Dana's ass. How embarrassing it is for this once proud program. WVU used to celebrate 9 win seasons like the '08 season when they finished ranked in the top 25 despite beating no ranked teams...despite losing to unranked teams... ECU, Colorado, Pitt and playing but one ranked team the whole season...and of course...losing to them.

I mean WVU used to be ranked...like in Billy's 2nd year...when they beat 1 ranked team the whole season. Who cares if they lost to a .500 team in their bowl game... at least they were ranked...at least he won 9 games.

I see a future for this program when it is competing with KU for last place in the Big 12. Will WVU fans be content with that?

Maybe WVU can get back to being a basketball school...

 

[mad2mc]

MAC coaches: Woody Hayes, Bo Shembechler, Ara Parseghian, Urban Meyer. to name just a few.
Of note is Randy Walker, who came out of the MAC to lead a sad sack Northwestern team to unheard of heights. Gary Pinkel took Missouri and transitioned them pretty well into the SEC. A little closer to home, Nehlen put WVU on the map, if not for him, we wouldn't be discussing this at all. Fantasy land, my friend, is a place where a .500 coach is defended with the fervency you do, I just do not understand the total allegiance that you and your buds have for Holgorsen. Holgorsen has a job today because Luck signed a totally one sided contract with him that WVU could not justify buying out this year. You guys want to belittle the BE, but want to overlook the fact that TCU came out of a MUCH weaker league than the BE and is atop the B12 today. Of course you don't place stock in those lists, as they disagree with your preconceived dream. I know of no business in the country where they hire an unproven guy with no experience to do a job, yet you seem to think that is the way to go, totally discounting experience in running a team at a smaller school prior to having to deal with much more than just the team at a major school. The strangest thing from the Holgorsen lovers is their near universal hatred of Huggins, they are totally committed to a .500 football coach, but want to fire a HOF basketball coach, maybe the Holgorsen lovers just hate people from WVa?????????

Here we go walking down memory lane. Name a coach that is currently coaching in the MAC that can take over and lead WVU to the league championship in 5 years. You recite guys who have been out of coaching for over 10 years except for Meyers.

As much as I hate to admit but King and Sleepy were right about the Big East, no matter how much I defended it. You mention TCU being in a weaker conference but isn't it amazing how well they have been able to recruit since being in the Big 12? Wouldn't have anything to do with being able to get home grown talent. Where is that in West Virginia? Don't be duped into believing how great TCU is. Look at their record before joining the league. Not a powerhouse like you seem to believe.

I'd rather give Dana more time, but don't kid yourself, if Lyons wanted to get rid of Dana, he could have pulled the trigger at the end of the season, forget the bowl game. Instead he pulls this shit. As you said, just me and a few of my buds believe in giving Dana more time and EVERYBODY in the world knows he has to go. That should be more than enough support for Lyons to pull the trigger. Maybe Lyons doesn't have any balls like Luck did. Maybe he hasn't finished working a deal with Saban. Maybe Doc is getting cold feet after being shunned ALL of these years. Maybe the MAC coaches want to go to a better program. Maybe RR is coming back. I'm sure he would accept his coaches on a one year contract like all the schools are doing in college football. Maybe nobody wants a contract that will require his assistants to be forced to sign a one year contract. I'm sure Lyons will clarify his statements after he figures how to fire Dana. You know, like you do, twist your words around.

For a HOF coach, Huggins was not doing it until these last 2 years. I was absolutely getting the feeling that the game could have passed him by. At least I can admit the possibility of being wrong. There is no room in your body to admit it. You were settling for a HOF coach who was showing dismal results in recruiting and on the floor. How could you support a HOF coach who was not producing results?

As I mentioned, I hope you, some of the others on this board, and Rusher get your wish and we watch another 5 years of rebuilding. At least whomever the new coach will be will not have rebuild it too much. Not sure how you equate liking Dana to hating people from WVa outside of saying that the comment is fucking stupid. If I'm not mistaken, a couple of my buds are from WVa. Why would I let my kid go there? Why would I go down there? I see you're going back to your old ways. Stupid fucking comments strewn in your posts and making everything a romantic novel. You know, like the time when you were a youngster growing up in your small town as if you were the only fucking person in the world that had to overcome some adversity.

 

[Slaton10]

?????????? No issues?????? EVERYONE in the country has issues with his "growth" but a few select on here think he is doing great. Holgorsen is at or near the top of every "hot seat" list, the AD wouldn't give him an extension on the terms of the stupid contract Luck gave him, but you are PLEASED with his "growth"????? I am NOT happy vying with IAST for 6th place in the league, and I don't see why you are happy. Year five of the "Holgorsen Era" is in the books, and I see very little to no progress. As to MY job, I work just like MOST people in the real world do, the boss could call me into his office Monday morning, thank me for my service, and send me packing.

What does this have to do with Assistant Coaches?..Other than the fact they have had their legs cut out from under them when they go to recruit a kid..What will they say to that recruit when they are asked how long are they going to be there?...Lyon's has set Wv football to go backwards for potentially years to come...he is playing a dangerous game....

 

[Slaton10]

Friday Five: College football coaches on the hot seat in 2016

He is top 5 on this one^

College Football Coaches Hot Seat For 2016

this one too^

Couldn't help notice how much dust is on both of these blogs..

 

[wvu_man]

MAC coaches: Woody Hayes, Bo Shembechler, Ara Parseghian, Urban Meyer. to name just a few.
Of note is Randy Walker, who came out of the MAC to lead a sad sack Northwestern team to unheard of heights. Gary Pinkel took Missouri and transitioned them pretty well into the SEC. A little closer to home, Nehlen put WVU on the map, if not for him, we wouldn't be discussing this at all. Fantasy land, my friend, is a place where a .500 coach is defended with the fervency you do, I just do not understand the total allegiance that you and your buds have for Holgorsen. Holgorsen has a job today because Luck signed a totally one sided contract with him that WVU could not justify buying out this year. You guys want to belittle the BE, but want to overlook the fact that TCU came out of a MUCH weaker league than the BE and is atop the B12 today. Of course you don't place stock in those lists, as they disagree with your preconceived dream. I know of no business in the country where they hire an unproven guy with no experience to do a job, yet you seem to think that is the way to go, totally discounting experience in running a team at a smaller school prior to having to deal with much more than just the team at a major school. The strangest thing from the Holgorsen lovers is their near universal hatred of Huggins, they are totally committed to a .500 football coach, but want to fire a HOF basketball coach, maybe the Holgorsen lovers just hate people from WVa?????????

Dad...you seem to be a Nehlen fan. I liked Nehlen but how many losing seasons did we endure under his 20 year tenure? I know that we lost 7 straight bowl games. Holgs has taken WVU to 4 bowls in 5 years and won 2 of them. Nehlen took us to 13 bowls and only won 4 of them. I'm curious to hear your opinion on this. Would you say that Holgs, in his short HC career, has been more successful than Nehlen? He has already has half the bowl wins as Nehlen in only 5 years. It took Nehlen 20 to win 4.

 

[WVUDAD]

Dad...you seem to be a Nehlen fan. I liked Nehlen but how many losing seasons did we endure under his 20 year tenure? I know that we lost 7 straight bowl games. Holgs has taken WVU to 4 bowls in 5 years and won 2 of them. Nehlen took us to 13 bowls and only won 4 of them. I'm curious to hear your opinion on this. Would you say that Holgs, in his short HC career, has been more successful than Nehlen? He has already has half the bowl wins as Nehlen in only 5 years. It took Nehlen 20 to win 4.

Man, I hated the bowl record under Nehlen, wish we would have won more, but if you look back many bowl losses came with injuries to key players, the one year that half the team had the flu, spectacular plays made by the opponent. Nehlen also had a different outlook on bowl games, I remember an interview years ago where he said a bowl game is a reward for a good season, and should be fun, so I figure he may not have practiced the team as much as he maybe should or could have. Also there are so many bowls now that we are playing weaker competition in bowls than twenty years ago. This year for instance ASU wouldn't have gone to a bowl game in the 1980s, hell, we may not have either.
Also, I forgot to mention a guy named Saban also coached in the MAC......They don't call the MAC the cradle of coaches for nothing.

 

[mad2mc]

Man, I hated the bowl record under Nehlen, wish we would have won more, but if you look back many bowl losses came with injuries to key players, the one year that half the team had the flu, spectacular plays made by the opponent. Nehlen also had a different outlook on bowl games, I remember an interview years ago where he said a bowl game is a reward for a good season, and should be fun, so I figure he may not have practiced the team as much as he maybe should or could have. Also there are so many bowls now that we are playing weaker competition in bowls than twenty years ago. This year for instance ASU wouldn't have gone to a bowl game in the 1980s, hell, we may not have either.
Also, I forgot to mention a guy named Saban also coached in the MAC......They don't call the MAC the cradle of coaches for nothing.

Nothing but excuses.
Name the next highly sought after MAC head coach. Who is the next one to come out and be the next Saban? Funny how you give Nehlen a pass on bowls but hold everybody to a different standard. Would you have given RR a pass if he approached the bowls that way. Your boy, Stew, sure sucked in bowls. Go ahead and give him the Fiesta Bowl but remember, it was McGee who ran the offense and Dana who blew out Clemson.

 

[mad2mc]

Couldn't help notice how much dust is on both of these blogs..

I'm sure that he has risen to the top with Lyon's latest moves. Should have canned the guy at the end of the season, if that is what he wanted to do. No balls. Poppy and Rusher would have opened their wallets for this move. Do the take Civil War currency? According to Poppy, the University is nothing but a den of prostitution and elitist. Wasn't that way when Stew was there. The Man of Integrity.

 

[WVUDAD]

Nothing but excuses.
Name the next highly sought after MAC head coach. Who is the next one to come out and be the next Saban? Funny how you give Nehlen a pass on bowls but hold everybody to a different standard. Would you have given RR a pass if he approached the bowls that way. Your boy, Stew, sure sucked in bowls. Go ahead and give him the Fiesta Bowl but remember, it was McGee who ran the offense and Dana who blew out Clemson.

I do not know who is going to be the next Saban, Meyer, Hayes, Bo, nor do you, but I would MUCH rather hire a guy who knows how to run a football team at the MAC level than to take a shot in the dark with a guy who had no HC experience. If you needed surgery, would you go to the Doctor with no OR experience, or to the guy who had done the surgery dozens of times? EXCUSES?????? Really? They guy who trys to put all of Holgorsen's failings off on previous coaches calling excuses. WOW. Nehlen is NOT Saban, but had he not brought our program up in level of play like he did, at the time he did, WVU would NOT have been in the BE, which as much as some try to belittle the league, is what made WVU football relevant. Had it not been for Nehlen, we would be watching a MAC coach every game, because that's probably where we would be today if not for Nehlen.

 

[mad2mc]

I do not know who is going to be the next Saban, Meyer, Hayes, Bo, nor do you, but I would MUCH rather hire a guy who knows how to run a football team at the MAC level than to take a shot in the dark with a guy who had no HC experience. If you needed surgery, would you go to the Doctor with no OR experience, or to the guy who had done the surgery dozens of times? EXCUSES?????? Really? They guy who trys to put all of Holgorsen's failings off on previous coaches calling excuses. WOW. Nehlen is NOT Saban, but had he not brought our program up in level of play like he did, at the time he did, WVU would NOT have been in the BE, which as much as some try to belittle the league, is what made WVU football relevant. Had it not been for Nehlen, we would be watching a MAC coach every game, because that's probably where we would be today if not for Nehlen.

So now you want to compare a college football HC to a surgeon. See what I mean about stupid shit?

Never said Holgorsen's failings were due to Stew except for Stew's ability to get recruits in. Like I said, if RR said that about bowl games, you would have called bullshit, but since it was a coach you liked, it's ok. Let Holgorsen's say some excuse like that for not winning bowl games and your head would have exploded. I thought you gave all the credit of being in the Big East to Pastilong? Now you're reversing course? So typical of you. If WVU goes your way, would be watching a MAC coach every week anyways. Then we could fight Kansas for that last spot. Or maybe we could get lucky and get a coach from the MAC like Pitt did. I asked you to name a current coach that would be the next Saban, or similar from the list YOU provided. Who is the hot name coming out of the MAC that D1 schools are looking at? Please don't start your crying about Nehlen. Most of us know what went on during his time. We don't need a romantic version of it.

 

[WVUDAD]

So now you want to compare a college football HC to a surgeon. See what I mean about stupid shit?

SO, experience matters in SOME jobs, but not others, talk about stupid shit. A college football team is a multi million dollar enterprise, and turning it over to an unproven assistant coach is STUPID. Some speculation on the next breakout MAC coach: The NIU guy, Carey, will be moving up pretty soon, Babers came from BGSU to Syracuse recently, Campbell was at Toledo last year, IAST this year, keep an eye on these guys. You just make blanket statements that are untrue, coaches from the MAC get hired at bigger schools every year, some with great success, some can't adjust to the bigger job at a higher profile school.

 

[GoldRusher]

Couldn't help notice how much dust is on both of these blogs..

It will get worse the closer the season gets, especially with contract talks halted now. Lyons will be focusing on a new coach, Dana is directly in the cross hairs, no question about it.

He needs to win 9-10 games in 2016 or he is gone imo.

 

[mad2mc]

SO, experience matters in SOME jobs, but not others, talk about stupid shit. A college football team is a multi million dollar enterprise, and turning it over to an unproven assistant coach is STUPID. Some speculation on the next breakout MAC coach: The NIU guy, Carey, will be moving up pretty soon, Babers came from BGSU to Syracuse recently, Campbell was at Toledo last year, IAST this year, keep an eye on these guys. You just make blanket statements that are untrue, coaches from the MAC get hired at bigger schools every year, some with great success, some can't adjust to the bigger job at a higher profile school.

So your saying that you would let a 25 year cafeteria worker perform open heart surgery on you. Experience matters but to different degrees. But why am I explaining this to you? I guess turning it over to a Stew was even more stupid shit, huh.

 

[mad2mc]

It will get worse the closer the season gets, especially with contract talks halted now. Lyons will be focusing on a new coach, Dana is directly in the cross hairs, no question about it.

He needs to win 9-10 games in 2016 or he is gone imo.

I hope it's Doc.

 

[WVUDAD]

So your saying that you would let a 25 year cafeteria worker perform open heart surgery on you. Experience matters but to different degrees. But why am I explaining this to you? I guess turning it over to a Stew was even more stupid shit, huh.

WTF, you've just plain lost it.

 

[mad2mc]

WTF, you've just plain lost it.

Just applying your logic.

 

[bbwvfan]

It will get worse the closer the season gets, especially with contract talks halted now. Lyons will be focusing on a new coach, Dana is directly in the cross hairs, no question about it.

He needs to win 9-10 games in 2016 or he is gone imo.

Pretty sure Dana is gone unless he wins the Big 12 conference this year. He was brought to Morgantown to win the BE. He did that. He was brought to win NC's, and he has failed.

You can't win NC's if you don't win Big 12 championships.

Doc has already proven he can win CUSA championships. That ain't any harder than winning Big 12 championships.

Come home Doc...