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I'd like 5 or 6 cornerbacks. On the field, at the same time. ;)
 

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Improve so much? Huh? Are you unaware we had a ~top-five pass defense this year? And that is to go with a top-five run defense. I think moving Culliver back inside would worsen both our run and pass defense.

I don't think Goldson can be signed? This years cb's are solid, I'm sure there is one that will be available with one of our picks that will be an excellent fit.

I'm not saying it like we're a bad pass defense, I just like having fs' that were cb's, like Goldson, though Goldson wasn't much of a cb prospect.
 

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Not even close. I've seen enough games to see that he can cover wr's in the slot, rb's out of the backfield, as well as te's. He has a frame to add weight, which is perfect for a ss (where I want him groomed to play).

I'm still for drafting a cb and moving Culliver to fs.

He's a liability at corner. He has given up TDs in the last 5 games or so. He does not have the instincts of a corner in pass coverage. It's not a technique issue but of instincts.
 

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Our pass defense would improve so much with a player like him at fs. The cb position is pretty strong this season, Culliver's production could be matched.

Maybe Rhodes, Amerson, Poyer, Ryan, Wilson could all be cb's that could match what Culliver is doing.

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Improve so much? Huh? Are you unaware we had a ~top-five pass defense this year? And that is to go with a top-five run defense. I think moving Culliver back inside would worsen both our run and pass defense.

Brown, Rogers, Goldson, are the main reasons as to why that is. You can throw in Whitner in there too. Culliver hardly ever contributes anything towards our pass defense. He's the achilles heel of our defense. He is a fine open field tackler who has the necessary tools to excel at the FS position.
 
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Unless anybody has talked to the 49ers coaches or is looking at something that I can't find, Culliver hasn't given up 5 TDs all season, let alone 5 in the last 5 weeks. The most I know of myself and the most I could find by anybody who has reviewed each 49ers game is 4. They've all come in back-to-back weeks. Week 10 and 11 (STL, CHI) and Week 16 and 17 (SEA, AZ).

With that said, week 15 against NE and week 17 against AZ were probably the two worst games I've seen him play this season, so I won't argue that he is coming into the playoffs on a bit of a hot streak.

Culliver said the last three weeks has been "just not communicating properly", although Culliver isn't the most well spoken guy around and it very well may be much more than that.

If somebody wants to argue the 49ers aren't set at corner and need to target one in the draft for whatever reason, cool. Fine. I'm all for that myself. Have been for nearly a decade now. I just don't like inaccuracies or lazy statements, especially for emotional reasons. If one isn't high or big on a player's abilities, even on the 49ers, cool. Just don't throw things out there that one can not back up.
 

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Unless anybody has talked to the 49ers coaches or is looking at something that I can't find, Culliver hasn't given up 5 TDs all season, let alone 5 in the last 5 weeks. The most I know of myself and the most I could find by anybody who has reviewed each 49ers game is 4. They've all come in back-to-back weeks. Week 10 and 11 (STL, CHI) and Week 16 and 17 (SEA, AZ).

With that said, week 15 against NE and week 17 against AZ were probably the two worst games I've seen him play this season, so I won't argue that he is coming into the playoffs on a bit of a hot streak.

Culliver said the last three weeks has been "just not communicating properly", although Culliver isn't the most well spoken guy around and it very well may be much more than that.

If somebody wants to argue the 49ers aren't set at corner and need to target one in the draft for whatever reason, cool. Fine. I'm all for that myself. Have been for nearly a decade now. I just don't like inaccuracies or lazy statements, especially for emotional reasons. If one isn't high or big on a player's abilities, even on the 49ers, cool. Just don't throw things out there that one can not back up.

It's just Bingo making shit up and throwing it at the wall so he can disparage Cully to build up Jenkins. His Rams' hard-on has been showing a lot lately.
 

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Unless anybody has talked to the 49ers coaches or is looking at something that I can't find, Culliver hasn't given up 5 TDs all season, let alone 5 in the last 5 weeks. The most I know of myself and the most I could find by anybody who has reviewed each 49ers game is 4. They've all come in back-to-back weeks. Week 10 and 11 (STL, CHI) and Week 16 and 17 (SEA, AZ).

With that said, week 15 against NE and week 17 against AZ were probably the two worst games I've seen him play this season, so I won't argue that he is coming into the playoffs on a bit of a hot streak.

Culliver said the last three weeks has been "just not communicating properly", although Culliver isn't the most well spoken guy around and it very well may be much more than that.

If somebody wants to argue the 49ers aren't set at corner and need to target one in the draft for whatever reason, cool. Fine. I'm all for that myself. Have been for nearly a decade now. I just don't like inaccuracies or lazy statements, especially for emotional reasons. If one isn't high or big on a player's abilities, even on the 49ers, cool. Just don't throw things out there that one can not back up.

It's worth noting that both the Chicago TD and the Arizona TD basically defined garbage time TDs. Culliver has given up some big plays, but considering that he's still learning the nuances of the position to some extent, I wouldn't consider moving him. Even on a lot of the bigger plays, he's in good position but is beaten by very good passes. Brady was hurting him in particular, but he made some great passes to Lloyd.
 

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For the record, I like Culliver and what he's been doing (outside of a few plays).

I just think he has what it takes to be an all pro fs (especially since I can't see the team signing Goldson).

I also don't think that what he's been bringing to the table is irreplaceable. I like this years class at cb, I think we can grab a good one, plus Honeybadger in the 4th.
 

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Unless anybody has talked to the 49ers coaches or is looking at something that I can't find, Culliver hasn't given up 5 TDs all season, let alone 5 in the last 5 weeks. The most I know of myself and the most I could find by anybody who has reviewed each 49ers game is 4. They've all come in back-to-back weeks. Week 10 and 11 (STL, CHI) and Week 16 and 17 (SEA, AZ).

With that said, week 15 against NE and week 17 against AZ were probably the two worst games I've seen him play this season, so I won't argue that he is coming into the playoffs on a bit of a hot streak.

Culliver said the last three weeks has been "just not communicating properly", although Culliver isn't the most well spoken guy around and it very well may be much more than that.

If somebody wants to argue the 49ers aren't set at corner and need to target one in the draft for whatever reason, cool. Fine. I'm all for that myself. Have been for nearly a decade now. I just don't like inaccuracies or lazy statements, especially for emotional reasons. If one isn't high or big on a player's abilities, even on the 49ers, cool. Just don't throw things out there that one can not back up.

I thought he had also surrendered a TD to Brandon Lloyd. It just that he got eaten up alive by him. Heh at least he prevented him from having a near TD. As for you continue to make up excuses for him like a bias fool.
 

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It's just Bingo making shit up and throwing it at the wall so he can disparage Cully to build up Jenkins. His Rams' hard-on has been showing a lot lately.

I forgot you're a little sensitive about the Aaron Rodgers of corners. Muah. Sorry.
 

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It's just Bingo making shit up and throwing it at the wall so he can disparage Cully to build up Jenkins. His Rams' hard-on has been showing a lot lately.

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I'm sorry. I had to. :)
 

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It's worth noting that both the Chicago TD and the Arizona TD basically defined garbage time TDs. Culliver has given up some big plays, but considering that he's still learning the nuances of the position to some extent, I wouldn't consider moving him. Even on a lot of the bigger plays, he's in good position but is beaten by very good passes. Brady was hurting him in particular, but he made some great passes to Lloyd.

Crims, you don't find it a little disturbing that for the limited snaps that he receives he tends to give up too many big plays!? People a blind and bias when it comes to their own beloved team. He is a major concern going into the playoffs. He gives up just as many big plays as comparison to starters (Rogers) who earns double his snap counts.
 

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I thought he had also surrendered a TD to Brandon Lloyd. It just that he got eaten up alive by him. Heh at least he prevented him from having a near TD. As for you continue to make up excuses for him like a bias fool.

There you go again. Normally I would give you the chance to try and nail how you think I feel about Culliver but I've already asked you too many times and you continue to make things up. This topic shouldn't take over this thread either, which wasn't even about Culliver to begin with. Have a good day.
 

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Cully won the league MVP last year.

Interesting answer. A few weeks ago you said Jenkins was DPOY. Do you still think so?

A few weeks ago you said he had a better year than JJ Watt. Do you still think so?
 

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Interesting answer. A few weeks ago you said Jenkins was DPOY. Do you still think so?

A few weeks ago you said he had a better year than JJ Watt. Do you still think so?

Many weeks ago you said he's as good as Darelle Revis. Do you still think so?
 
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