OT Detroit Pitcher Gets Fucked

[BOSSMANPC]

So true pix they can be tough Wow! dare, I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to go there.

 

[GagneFire12]

There is no way Selig can reverse this call. I feel bad for the pitcher, as does everyone else. He deserved a perfect game, period. However, in the end, if you make an exception to validate this one situation, then what happens to all the blown calls of MLB's past? This had no result in the outcome of the game, where as some judgements have cost teams playoff games. They've always harked that human error is a part of the game.

What this WILL do is act as a catalyst for the implementation of instant replay.

 

[postmaster]

in 1991, the MLB overturned 50 no hitters. Just thought I would throw that out there.

 

[sbb122]

in 1991, the MLB overturned 50 no hitters. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Including Harvey Haddix's 12 perfect innings. Fuck the MLB.

 

[Jimmy_the_Tongue]

Including Harvey Haddix's 12 perfect innings. Fuck the MLB.

He lost that game too....weird....

 

[GagneFire12]

in 1991, the MLB overturned 50 no hitters. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Very true. But none of those involved changing a call made on the field.

 

[Destroydacre]

There is no way Selig can reverse this call. I feel bad for the pitcher, as does everyone else. He deserved a perfect game, period. However, in the end, if you make an exception to validate this one situation, then what happens to all the blown calls of MLB's past? This had no result in the outcome of the game, where as some judgements have cost teams playoff games. They've always harked that human error is a part of the game.

What this WILL do is act as a catalyst for the implementation of instant replay.

Just as long as they never make balls and strikes reviewable. I wouldn't mind close plays at bases, balls that were caught or trapped and fair/foul balls anywhere on the field, not just home runs.

 

[postmaster]

Very true. But none of those involved changing a call made on the field.

So overturning an official scorers call is no big deal, which is where all stats and historical achievements are set is okay as long it is not called on the field?
I guess I think if they are going to overturn those, they could have considered this one since it will lead to replay and especially since it was the last out of the game.

 

[Destroydacre]

So overturning an official scorers call is no big deal, which is where all stats and historical achievements are set is okay as long it is not called on the field?
I guess I think if they are going to overturn those, they could have considered this one since it will lead to replay and especially since it was the last out of the game.

That would set a pretty dangerous precedent though. What if Cleveland had scored 4 runs after the blown call? Should they still reverse it and change the result of the game? I understand where you are coming from, but Gagne is right, they can't all of the sudden start changing umpires' calls like that. Where do you stop? Galarraga deserves to have a perfect game to his name. Many baseball fans will give him one anyway even if he doesn't have it officially. But if you change this call, then you have to start considering changing every blown call in the history of the game. That's just not realistic or fair. The official scorer just tallies the results of the game, he does not have any impact on the game like the umpires do.

 

[dash]

Just wanted to add that the infamous George Brett 'pine-tar' home run (called out by umpire Tim McClelland) was later overturned by then AL president Lee MacPhail...

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/blog.php/108stitches/article/brett_reme/

 

[Destroydacre]

Just wanted to add that the infamous George Brett 'pine-tar' home run (called out by umpire Tim McClelland) was later overturned by then AL president Lee MacPhail...

George Brett remembers the Pine Tar game

True, but the basis for overturning the call was the interpretation of the rule which is still grounds for protests to this day. Joyce did not interpret any rule incorrectly in Galarraga's game, he just boned a call.

 

[dash]

True, but the basis for overturning the call was the interpretation of the rule which is still grounds for protests to this day. Joyce did not interpret any rule incorrectly in Galarraga's game, he just boned a call.

I just wanted to add a hockey reference into this thread (Brett is a part owner of the Spokane Chiefs of the WHL).

 

[pixburgher66]

i do give joyce credit. he took his lumps like a man...he's obviously torn up about it. but hey! free car!

 

[naslundfan19]

i do give joyce credit. he took his lumps like a man...he's obviously torn up about it. but hey! free car!

Do you think that if Joyce gets the call right, and Galarraga has the perfecto, he gets a free car?

 

[pixburgher66]

Do you think that if Joyce gets the call right, and Galarraga has the perfecto, he gets a free car?

ya know, i wonder...it was either a planned gift for his true accomplishment...or a pity prize. we'll never know...

 

[Maverick426h]

Do you think that if Joyce gets the call right, and Galarraga has the perfecto, he gets a free car?

Nope.

 

[postmaster]

Galarraga might actually be remembered more for the class he showed in getting screwed out of the perfect game than he would have for actually pitching a perfect game. So I guess he has that going for him.

 

[beantownmaniac]

Galarraga might actually be remembered more for the class he showed in getting screwed out of the perfect game than he would have for actually pitching a perfect game. So I guess he has that going for him.

When I see how all parties involved have acted since the call, I'm reminded of the saying "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" and how that saying is such bullshit. The umpire was so distraught after seeing he was wrong and the kid, the team, and the fans showed so much class towards him after (there were a few boo's but that's to be expected). This whole episode should be a lesson in class

 

[dare2be]

When I see how all parties involved have acted since the call, I'm reminded of the saying "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" and how that saying is such bullshit. The umpire was so distraught after seeing he was wrong and the kid, the team, and the fans showed so much class towards him after (there were a few boo's but that's to be expected). This whole episode should be a lesson in class

Episodes like this almost restore my faith in humanity. ALMOST.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

You guys should listen to some of the local sports talk show hacks. "Worst call in the history of sports, umpire should be fired, no sympathy, it makes me sick to see how people are empathizing with the ump, blah blah blah".

It's just a fucking game.