Who are the Bears going to draft #1?

[Sharkonabicycle]

Could pay off even if you have to give up 2 future 1st's. Atlanta has cap space and pieces on offense for Caleb to succeed from day 1

Bears have the cap space as well and pieces on offense as well to succeed from Day 1. Kmet put up better numbers than Pitts (both teams had crap QBs so that's whatever), Moore is better than London. Robinson is definitely a weapon that the Bears don't have, but that's okay... both defenses were basically the same... Now the OL in Atlanta is pretty good, Bears are a bit more average, but the Bears have another top 10 pick that they can use to snag an OT and shore that up. And if they take someone like Odunze or Nabers, they are INSTANTLY FAR better than Atlanta's receiving group.

It's also a very deep draft for OL, WR, and mid tier RB... The Bears are in a good spot to snag a QB that can actually throw the ball and push right now. Bears also have $40M more in cap space than the Falcons. Falcons have the signed roster advantage, but the Bears are close (50).

I don't see how the Falcons (maybe outside of Robinson) is that much better than the Bears.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Bears have the cap space as well and pieces on offense as well to succeed from Day 1. Kmet put up better numbers than Pitts (both teams had crap QBs so that's whatever), Moore is better than London. Robinson is definitely a weapon that the Bears don't have, but that's okay... both defenses were basically the same... Now the OL in Atlanta is pretty good, Bears are a bit more average, but the Bears have another top 10 pick that they can use to snag an OT and shore that up. And if they take someone like Odunze or Nabers, they are INSTANTLY FAR better than Atlanta's receiving group.

It's also a very deep draft for OL, WR, and mid tier RB... The Bears are in a good spot to snag a QB that can actually throw the ball and push right now. Bears also have $40M more in cap space than the Falcons. Falcons have the signed roster advantage, but the Bears are close (50).

I don't see how the Falcons (maybe outside of Robinson) is that much better than the Bears.

But their FO and coaching has been a disaster. At least Atlanta has a new coach and they play in arguably the worst division as well.

I do think overall I like the Atlanta defense more right now. They have two key pieces in the secondary and can create more pressure.

Either way....I agree, Chicago should draft Williams, but it is Chicago for a reason. They would be the team to do something stupid like this. I think Fields needs new scenery any way to have some sort of shot to continue his career

 

[PDay8810]

I don't see how the Falcons (maybe outside of Robinson) is that much better than the Bears.

one team plays in a dome with a much better success rate with QB's.

Hell...truth be told, No top QB really wants any part of Chicago, Washigton, or New England.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

one team plays in a dome with a much better success rate with QB's.

Hell...truth be told, No top QB really wants any part of Chicago, Washigton, or New England.

 

[shopson67]

But their FO and coaching has been a disaster. At least Atlanta has a new coach and they play in arguably the worst division as well.

I do think overall I like the Atlanta defense more right now. They have two key pieces in the secondary and can create more pressure.

Either way....I agree, Chicago should draft Williams, but it is Chicago for a reason. They would be the team to do something stupid like this. I think Fields needs new scenery any way to have some sort of shot to continue his career

I would assume the Falcons offense looks somewhat Rams-ish this coming season with their DC taking over as head coach and their QB coach taking over as OC.

Waldron should upgrade that Bears offense, but does he want to do try to do that with Fields? I would imagine he would be in the Caleb camp.

 

[shopson67]

one team plays in a dome with a much better success rate with QB's.

Hell...truth be told, No top QB really wants any part of Chicago, Washigton, or New England.

Of those three, if I'm choosing between Waldron, Kingsbury, or Van Pelt, I'm pushing to go to the Bears.

 

[PDay8810]

Of those three, if I'm choosing between Waldron, Kingsbury, or Van Pelt, I'm pushing to go to the Bears.

I'd still be pulling for an Atlanta trade up.

 

[belcherboy]

Could pay off even if you have to give up 2 future 1st's. Atlanta has cap space and pieces on offense for Caleb to succeed from day 1

I think if I were Atlanta, I'd offer them this year's 1st round pick, 2025 first round pick, and 2026 first round pick for the #1.

I don't know if that would get it done, but I would think that would be enough. I'd be nervous about offering any more if I am Atlanta, but three 1st round picks for the #1 seems like a great deal on both sides for the potential of Caleb Williams.

 

[Wamu]

Anything other than Caleb Williams or a trade down is a fireable offense. And trading down will be highly suspect.

Changing QB's won't fix all the other roster problems in Chicago.

A new QB won't change the fact daBears seriously lack offensive weapons.

I hope they do trade Fields. Get him the hell outta the Windy City.

They can't win with Fields. And they'll win even less drafting Williams.

 

[belcherboy]

Bears have the cap space as well and pieces on offense as well to succeed from Day 1. Kmet put up better numbers than Pitts (both teams had crap QBs so that's whatever), Moore is better than London. Robinson is definitely a weapon that the Bears don't have, but that's okay... both defenses were basically the same... Now the OL in Atlanta is pretty good, Bears are a bit more average, but the Bears have another top 10 pick that they can use to snag an OT and shore that up. And if they take someone like Odunze or Nabers, they are INSTANTLY FAR better than Atlanta's receiving group.

It's also a very deep draft for OL, WR, and mid tier RB... The Bears are in a good spot to snag a QB that can actually throw the ball and push right now. Bears also have $40M more in cap space than the Falcons. Falcons have the signed roster advantage, but the Bears are close (50).

I don't see how the Falcons (maybe outside of Robinson) is that much better than the Bears.

The Bears would be pushing the reset button on the most costly position, so it would allow them to have more cap space for a longer period of time before they have to open up their wallets at the QB position.

The question is, is there a QB further down the line in the draft that could give them a great return, especially with all the high draft picks they could acquire trading back to him? This would allow the Bears to bring in some big free agents, while replacing costly, less productive veterans, having several high draft picks for the next few years.

 

[Wamu]

Here's an idea. If it was already mentioned my bad. Trade Fields to Denver for Wilson.

 

[belcherboy]

Changing QB's won't fix all the other roster problems in Chicago.

A new QB won't change the fact daBears seriously lack offensive weapons.

I hope they do trade Fields. Get him the hell outta the Windy City.

They can't win with Fields. And they'll win even less drafting Williams.

As crazy as I think trading the #1 pick away would be for Chicago (basically trading Caleb Williams), it also could benefit them greatly in the long run. The problem is that GM's and coaches don't often have a "long run" timetable on their job. They do things more for the immediate, even if it is to the detriment of the team long term, because they don't want to lose their job (I don't blame them). I'm not saying that this is a situation like that, but I can see why they wouldn't want to trade that #1 away again, even with a big haul of future draft picks that would give them great options in the future.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be the GM who passed on Caleb Williams with his potential. Although, if they could flip the pick with Washington and gain an extra first round pick, Drake Maye could be someone that would take the sting out of losing Williams. They would have a GREAT options to build around him in the future.

 

[belcherboy]

Here's an idea. If it was already mentioned my bad. Trade Fields to Denver for Wilson.

Unless the Broncos are willing to eat a bunch of his salary, I'm not sure this would be a great trade, even straight up. I think Chicago has to draft their next QB in this draft, and likely needs to do it in the top 10 picks.

I think Denver would make that trade immediately. They wouldn't even need a physical.

 

[Xeliou66]

If the Bears don’t take Williams, they are fucking stupid. Fields just isn’t the answer, he’s just not a good passer and he hasn’t improved at all in his 3 seasons. Passing on a QB as good as Williams to keep a mediocre QB like Fields is just dumb. Bears will certainly take Williams IMO.

 

[belcherboy]

If the Bears don’t take Williams, they are stupid. Fields just isn’t the answer, he’s just not a good passer and he hasn’t improved at all in his 3 seasons. Passing on a QB as good as Williams to keep a mediocre QB like Fields is just dumb. Bears will certainly take Williams IMO.

I agree that it seems like a "no brainer" to take Williams, but I can also understand why they want to leak out that they are still debating on whether to trade the pick too. I could see a bidding war beginning and they can see exactly what it would cost them to keep the pick. If some team comes in and drops a HUGE amount of draft picks on them, and they can still get one of the top 3-4 QB's in this draft, it might be worth a serious discussion.

I live near Atlanta (around a lot of Falcon fans), and I would love to see what Williams could do down here. You, as a Falcons fan may disagree, but I think if Atlanta could trade their 2024, 2025, 2026 first round picks for the #1 pick, I think they should do it. Even if they got to dump in a 3rd round pick in there somewhere, I still think it might be worth it. I just don't know if that would be enough for Chicago to jump out of that spot.

Heck, if Washington is sold on Williams, maybe trade back one pick and get the #2 pick, 2025 first round pick, and maybe a 2nd round pick in return. Taking the #2 QB in this draft class, along with a few more high picks could pay big dividends.

 

[Xeliou66]

I agree that it seems like a "no brainer" to take Williams, but I can also understand why they want to leak out that they are still debating on whether to trade the pick too. I could see a bidding war beginning and they can see exactly what it would cost them to keep the pick. If some team comes in and drops a HUGE amount of draft picks on them, and they can still get one of the top 3-4 QB's in this draft, it might be worth a serious discussion.

I live near Atlanta (around a lot of Falcon fans), and I would love to see what Williams could do down here. You, as a Falcons fan may disagree, but I think if Atlanta could trade their 2024, 2025, 2026 first round picks for the #1 pick, I think they should do it. Even if they got to dump in a 3rd round pick in there somewhere, I still think it might be worth it. I just don't know if that would be enough for Chicago to jump out of that spot.

Heck, if Washington is sold on Williams, maybe trade back one pick and get the #2 pick, 2025 first round pick, and maybe a 2nd round pick in return. Taking the #2 QB in this draft class, along with a few more high picks could pay big dividends.

I agree about the Falcons, as a Falcons fan, I would be happily trade 3 first round picks to get Caleb Williams. The Falcons desperately need a franchise QB, and Williams is as sure of a bet as any QB in recent memory to be a solid franchise QB. I would love to see the Falcons trade up to get a QB, but I don’t see the Bears, Commanders or Pats trading down.

 

[Wamu]

Unless the Broncos are willing to eat a bunch of his salary, I'm not sure this would be a great trade, even straight up. I think Chicago has to draft their next QB in this draft, and likely needs to do it in the top 10 picks.

I think Denver would make that trade immediately. They wouldn't even need a physical.

When I said that it was more wishful thinking than anything else.

I'm not trying to say JF is some kinda good QB.

But daBears are a mess right now. He's not the main problem.

 

[Wamu]

If the Bears don’t take Williams, they are fucking stupid. Fields just isn’t the answer, he’s just not a good passer and he hasn’t improved at all in his 3 seasons. Passing on a QB as good as Williams to keep a mediocre QB like Fields is just dumb. Bears will certainly take Williams IMO.

Seen too many great CFB qb's stink it up in the NFL. Not knocking Williams. But he won't fix anything. If anything it would be a step back for Chicago to go with a rookie QB for a team lacking many offensive weapons.

 

[Xeliou66]

Seen too many great CFB qb's stink it up in the NFL. Not knocking Williams. But he won't fix anything. If anything it would be a step back for Chicago to go with a rookie QB for a team lacking many offensive weapons.

I strongly disagree that it would be a step back. I’m certain Williams will be a better NFL QB than Fields, Fields is pretty much a bust and a glorified running back, he doesn’t have what it takes to be an NFL franchise QB.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

If the Bears don’t take Williams, they are fucking stupid. Fields just isn’t the answer, he’s just not a good passer and he hasn’t improved at all in his 3 seasons. Passing on a QB as good as Williams to keep a mediocre QB like Fields is just dumb. Bears will certainly take Williams IMO.

Never rule out the possibility of the Bears mucking up their high draft picks - we have a proud reputation for doing this. However, it is looking more and more likely that short of Williams blowing it in his interview (being that he's skipping the combine workouts), it does appear he will be taken with the first pick. Wisely, our GM continues to play it closely to the vest, as he should. But it does look like Williams will be the choice.