Rodgers to meet with the Jets

[Used 2 B Hu]

not only to ride the pine, but to watch the packers lose also!

Well, as long as the Packers are losing

 

[DHoey]

Pack gonna pay 58 million dollars for a guy to ride the pine??

Sure. That's an option.

 

[molsaniceman]

Pack gonna pay 58 million dollars for a guy to ride the pine??

nope after 6/1 it drops to 15 mil

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

nope after 6/1 it drops to 15 mil

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Wait, his salary drops to 15 million after 6/1?

 

[Cyder]

Wait, his salary drops to 15 million after 6/1?

That's the dead cap hit for next year for the Packers if the trade takes place after 6/1.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

That's the dead cap hit for next year for the Packers if the trade takes place after 6/1.

Right, so it's correct to say that the Packers aren't likely to pay him 58 million dollars to sit on the bench behind Love. We weren't talking about Cap hits originally

 

[Cyder]

Right, so it's correct to say that the Packers aren't likely to pay him 58 million dollars to sit on the bench behind Love. We weren't talking about Cap hits originally

I can't see them doing that, they wouldn't be able to field a team worth a shit. This is a strange negotiation in that neither team has leverage. The Jets need the Rodgers and the Pack needs to get rid of him.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I can't see them doing that, they wouldn't be able to field a team worth a shit. This is a strange negotiation in that neither team has leverage. The Jets need the Rodgers and the Pack needs to get rid of him.

I mean, I'll chip in five bucks...

 

[Cyder]

I mean, I'll chip in five bucks...

It's going to happen, each side is posturing for a better deal and that will end 6/2. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd rounder the Jets just got in the Moore trade is what goes to the Pack with maybe a 4th and a conditional pick in the draft after that

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

It's going to happen, each side is posturing for a better deal and that will end 6/2. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd rounder the Jets just got in the Moore trade is what goes to the Pack with maybe a 4th and a conditional pick in the draft after that

Yeah, I just read about the Moore trade.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Elton John will rename his song for his fellow mate Rodgers to Bend-over and Jets

 

[molsaniceman]

Right, so it's correct to say that the Packers aren't likely to pay him 58 million dollars to sit on the bench behind Love. We weren't talking about Cap hits originally

not sure where the 58 mil comes from but only number that matters is the cap hit Teams have plenty of money

cap hit if he goes nowhere is 31 mil

 

[PnkPanther]

not sure where the 58 mil comes from but only number that matters is the cap hit Teams have plenty of money

cap hit if he goes nowhere is 31 mil

Oh the money paid matters and also part of negotiation of how much NYJ pays and GB pays

 

[Tainthappening]

Wait, his salary drops to 15 million after 6/1?

$15M is cap savings Packers would have if the trade is post June 1st... Packers could push $24M to 2024 and have cap savings.

I do not see it making it to June 1st... this will either happen by draft or May 1st when Packers have to pick up 5th year on Jordan Love. As someone noted... the extra 2nd round draft pick Jets just received may be tied to this trade.... that is where I am leaning now and maybe a conditional pick in future tied to Rodgers returning or performance.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Sheeesh.....by the way this is prolonging and playing out, you'd think the Packers were dealing reluctantly with teams in their own division or even some other team in the NFC for that matter.

GB needs to just cut the the friggin cord....it's not the end the damn world......just an era.

Get it done and move on already FFS.

 

[eaglesnut]

I can't see them doing that, they wouldn't be able to field a team worth a shit. This is a strange negotiation in that neither team has leverage. The Jets need the Rodgers and the Pack needs to get rid of him.

The Packers are pretending they have leverage which means they don't actually have it.

 

[fastforward]

Rodgers is due $60M this year, of which $58.3M is an option bonus. The option bonus counts as salary until it is paid. Once it is paid it counts as a signing bonus which is accounted for pro-rata over the 4 remaining years of Rodgers' contract. The Packers are accounting for 25% of the option, ($14.5M), and they are $24M under the cap limit. If they had to account for it as salary they would be $20M over the current cap limit. Once an option is activated it can't be reversed and the Packers would be responsible for 25% of it this year with 75% of it counting against the Packers in the future. It Rodgers is traded prior to the June 1 date then all money due to count towards the Packers cap total in future years would accelerate into the 2023 cap. With the option bonus the total dead money figure is $68M and the Packers would be $44M over the current cap. Under the cap rules the Packers can't trade Rodgers before the June 1 date and be under the limit. If they trade him Post June 1 the remaining $68M dead money will count against the team in 2024. They would have to gut the team to create that much space. What the Packers are trying to do is have the Jets retro-actively take responsibility for the whole $58.3M option and not have the rules, (and the consequences for breaking them), apply to the Packers.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Rodgers is due $60M this year, of which $58.3M is an option bonus. The option bonus counts as salary until it is paid. Once it is paid it counts as a signing bonus which is accounted for pro-rata over the 4 remaining years of Rodgers' contract. The Packers are accounting for 25% of the option, ($14.5M), and they are $24M under the cap limit. If they had to account for it as salary they would be $20M over the current cap limit. Once an option is activated it can't be reversed and the Packers would be responsible for 25% of it this year with 75% of it counting against the Packers in the future. It Rodgers is traded prior to the June 1 date then all money due to count towards the Packers cap total in future years would accelerate into the 2023 cap. With the option bonus the total dead money figure is $68M and the Packers would be $44M over the current cap. Under the cap rules the Packers can't trade Rodgers before the June 1 date and be under the limit. If they trade him Post June 1 the remaining $68M dead money will count against the team in 2024. They would have to gut the team to create that much space. What the Packers are trying to do is have the Jets retro-actively take responsibility for the whole $58.3M option and not have the rules, (and the consequences for breaking them), apply to the Packers.

I would laugh if Packers playing Hardball & at some point the Jets say well too late & move on with something else. Then Rodgers who I believe without a doubt never plays for the packers again. Says well fuck you guys I am retiring & suddenly the packers have a 99 mil dead cap on their hands LOL

 

[fastforward]

I would laugh if Packers playing Hardball & at some point the Jets say well too late & move on with something else. Then Rodgers who I believe without a doubt never plays for the packers again. Says well fuck you guys I am retiring & suddenly the packers have a 99 mil dead cap on their hands LOL

If he retired Rodgers wouldn't get $60M this year and the Packers wouldn't be on the hook for it. The future $24M dead money would accelerate into 2023 but the Packers wouldn't be accounting for the $16M money in 2024 that they currently are. Rodgers retiring would worsen the Packers 2023 cap by $8M and everything would then be clear. Rodgers retiring isn't a problem and playing for the Packers is only a small problem, (depending on personal perspective). Trading him is the problem. It's a problem because of the way his contract was structured.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

I would laugh if Packers playing Hardball & at some point the Jets say well too late & move on with something else. Then Rodgers who I believe without a doubt never plays for the packers again. Says well fuck you guys I am retiring & suddenly the packers have a 99 mil dead cap on their hands LOL

I can see the fuck you part, but I also see zero chance of Rodgers walking away from $60mil. Yeah, he's already rich, but $60mil is a lot of $$$ to leave on the table just for principle's sake.