Jimmy G. or Shanahan... Who should shoulder more of the blame?

[NinerSickness]

Right I forgot Kyle didn't make any bad decisions

Ok, Kyle deserves 12% of the blame.

 

[pitman]

The refs let both teams play I thought, and imo did a great job of making themselves mostly transparent.

I told my wife at half time that it was great that the refs were letting them play the game.

 

[dtgold88]

I'd quibble with the percentages but sure. In the end is it really 'blame'? One team has to lose, everyone did their best and on that day one team got more points. Another day might be the reverse.

Yep...and why I'd rather look for reasons to credit the winners than figure out who to blame.

 

[dtgold88]

Right I forgot Kyle didn't make any bad decisions

or the D

 

[Robotech]

On the coach..

I do not believe KC could have stopped the run game for 3 consecutive series. I’m glad KC won and I think their defense was lights out in the 4 th qt. But had SF just ran the ball I don’t think KC wins. IMO

En vogue smart young coach outsmarts himself.

 

[Myles]

Wow, this poll is wrong.

Jimmy deserves 100% of the blame.

2nd and 5 and you call passing plays twice? Bad coaching. At that point in the game, running out the clock was as important as getting a first down. Running also gave them the best chance at a first down. Kyle had no confidence in JG at the end of the first half, but all the confidence late in the 4th quarter. Makes no sense. This one is on Kyle.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

2nd and 5 and you call passing plays twice? Bad coaching. At that point in the game, running out the clock was as important as getting a first down. Running also gave them the best chance at a first down. Kyle had no confidence in JG at the end of the first half, but all the confidence late in the 4th quarter. Makes no sense. This one is on Kyle.

I don't know, 1st downs are what kill the clock faster than anything. Guys were open. If you think running it 3 straight times and willing to go for it on 4th and short was the right call, I'd agree; passing it and going for the kill is always something I'll defend. Even at 2nd and 5.

 

[Mofo]

He didn't even play that poorly. Every QB is going to have periods where they miss some throws. First drive of the 4th, he missed one throw, and they punted. Next drive, he missed two throws he shouldn't even have been attempting. Not great, but it's hard to fault a guy for two plays. The worst was the (final) drive when he missed three straight throws. That's not good, sure, but he shouldn't even have been in that position to start with. He did make some plays right before that to get them to midfield.

In order I chalk this one up to:
Mahomes
SF Defense
Shanahan
Jimmy G

LOL @Tom Ace showing up again (at another terrible juncture), to tell the world how Jimmy G is an elite QB.

Blaming the defense when they counted for the majority of SF’s points, is about the sort of alternative reality necessary. Just quit while you’re comfortably behind.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Ok, Kyle deserves 12% of the blame.

Being not only shutout but outscored 46-0 in the 4th Quarter of 2 SB's Bigger meltdown than Chernobyl

 

[Robotech]

Yep. Whole narratives rise and fall on those inches. In the end, sports is mostly about luck. All the teams are full of professionals who are the best in the world at what they do. The winners just get things going their way a couple more times each week

I'm not sure about mostly, but it's so very true that luck is a big factor. I learned this from sports betting. You can research upcoming matches for hours on end and read all of the expert analyses from former players, former coaches, and so called gambling experts, and you can be betting on a sport that you feel you know very well, but ultimately, sporting events are not predictable with any level of consistency. I think the reason is because luck is a big factor, and it's impossible to predict how luck will go.

 

[Myles]

I don't know, 1st downs are what kill the clock faster than anything. Guys were open. If you think running it 3 straight times and willing to go for it on 4th and short was the right call, I'd agree; passing it and going for the kill is always something I'll defend. Even at 2nd and 5.

But running it and getting a first down competes both goals. They've had no issues running the ball, it was their strength. Needing 5 yards in 2 downs seems like a running opportunity. If they got no gain on 2nd and 5, then they can throw the ball. Even a no gain rush runs the clock. So a failed play still is a positive. Kyle blew it.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

But running it and getting a first down competes both goals. They've had no issues running the ball, it was their strength. Needing 5 yards in 2 downs seems like a running opportunity. If they got no gain on 2nd and 5, then they can throw the ball. Even a no gain rush runs the clock. So a failed play still is a positive. Kyle blew it.

They had more issues running inside than out and were getting double chipped on the edges later in the 2nd half. It's a nuanced call and I think either or is defensible here. The end of the first half was a lot more egregious than that sequence, imo.

 

[Robotech]

Yep. Whole narratives rise and fall on those inches. In the end, sports is mostly about luck. All the teams are full of professionals who are the best in the world at what they do. The winners just get things going their way a couple more times each week

And the luck of our teams has been pretty good. All three Giants World Series titles can be viewed as lucky. LOL.

 

[SteelersPride]

 

[Fountain City Blues]

They had more issues running inside than out and were getting double chipped on the edges later in the 2nd half. It's a nuanced call and I think either or is defensible here. The end of the first half was a lot more egregious than that sequence, imo.

To further my point, especially on that particular 2nd and 5 play, I am currently re-watching the game, but I looked it up just to be sure. The Niners managed to get Terrell Suggs covering George Kittle on that play. How the hell is that Kyle Shanahan's bad? It's either Jimmy G has a predictable cadence or Chris Jones made a great play. That's about the only two possibilities here.

 

[msgkings322]

And the luck of our teams has been pretty good. All three Giants World Series titles can be viewed as lucky. LOL.

Baseball is the luckiest sport of all, being the best regular season team has almost no correlation with winning a title. Ask the 2001 Mariners.

Giants were underdogs in every single series including the play in games all three years. Yeah, they had a lot of luck. Although they had maybe the best playoff manager.of his generation too.

 

[Robotech]

Baseball is the luckiest sport of all, being the best regular season team has almost no correlation with winning a title. Ask the 2001 Mariners.

Giants were underdogs in every single series including the play in games all three years. Yeah, they had a lot of luck. Although they had maybe the best playoff manager.of his generation too.

Yeah, with some luck and without Astros cheating, the Dodgers would've won many times in the last decade. Lucky for us, they haven't won a WS since 1988.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Run the ball and run out the clock up 10. This is on Shanny.

 

[SteelersPride]

Run the ball and run out the clock up 10. This is on Shanny.

I kinda agree that the plays were there, guys were open.
Both are to blame. But if jimmy makes
Some of those not so hard throws, this is a different outcome

 

[Robotech]

Shanahan at 48.1% right now, but equal blame with Jimmy is at 32.7%, while blame Jimmy is at 19.2%. Does this count as Shanahan carrying the majority of the votes for who's to blame?