Texas Rangers 2019-2020 Offseason Thread

[Kelleyman]

I know you have to pay market value no matter how it got that way, if you want to win a WS eventually.

Unless you are KC

 

[Nightcrawler]

Don't be so hard on the boys

I don’t want to go easy on those miserly stooges “ the owners”.

bring me some damn corner infielders who can hit.

 

[jta4437]

according to the article on Bleacher Report & Evan Grant it would have to start with one of: Sam Huff, Josh Jung, Cole Winn or Hans Crouse and then depending on which the Rockies selected it would either from a group of Solak, Walker, Ornelas or Basabe or a group of Palumbo, Burke or Allard. and there would probably have to be another prospect like Garcia or Florentino.
expensive but worth it.
personally I would offer Crouse, Solak, Walker and Florentino as my initial offer

No way i would give up Crouse

 

[jta4437]

bringing a bunch of garbage back in house.

Organizational depth

 

[jta4437]

Tejeda, Taveras, Choo, Odor and Minor.

What use does Colorado have for a DH? Because he sure isn't an everyday OFer

 

[Uncle Siggy]

according to the article on Bleacher Report & Evan Grant it would have to start with one of: Sam Huff, Josh Jung, Cole Winn or Hans Crouse and then depending on which the Rockies selected it would either from a group of Solak, Walker, Ornelas or Basabe or a group of Palumbo, Burke or Allard. and there would probably have to be another prospect like Garcia or Florentino.
expensive but worth it.
personally I would offer Crouse, Solak, Walker and Florentino as my initial offer

The Rangers look to be big players on 2021 free agent superstars

 

[Uncle Siggy]

the offense and defense he has put on the field will offset some of the pitching problems but Moreno will not back off from trying to find pitching

That all depends on how willing he is to go over the spending cap and pay the penalties. And how willing FAs are to going to a sub .500 team, just because Rendon was willing to go there doesn't mean others are willing to go there. Sooner or later those big boat anchor contracts will cause them to blow it all up and will be before they get close to a WS championship.

Take Pujols for instance he's been sub replacement since 2016 and still has what 3 years or so to go at $30M per, all money that could have been better spent of the pen. A big bat lineup will very seldom win you anything if your pen can't get the other side out, especially come playoff time if they make it that far. (which I would think any Ranger fan that has been around the team for any length of time can relate to). Heck even as dumb as Hicks was he realized A-Wads contract was a team killer and off loaded his ass, didn't do the team much good but he off loaded it nevertheless.

 

[Uncle Siggy]

I know you have to pay market value no matter how it got that way, if you want to win a WS eventually.

And sooner or later market value will make fans stay away because prices to go and enjoy a ballgame have gotten out of hand. Why go and pay $12 for each beer $10-20 for parking and who knows how much per seat when you can sit at home in front of the big screen (or take it with you on your phone) for a fraction of the price?? Attendance peaked in 2007 and has been dropping every year since looks like fans are saying we've had enough, just like the voters did in 2016...

 

[Uncle Siggy]

the offense and defense he has put on the field will offset some of the pitching problems but Moreno will not back off from trying to find pitching

Not much left in this years batch of pitching FAs and here is next years batch of FAs...


Starting Pitchers

Brett Anderson (33)
Chase Anderson (33) – $9.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Chris Archer (32) – $11MM club option with a $250K buyout
Jake Arrieta (35)
Trevor Bauer (30)
Tyler Chatwood (31)
Anthony DeSclafani (31)
Michael Fiers (36)
Kevin Gausman (30)
Cole Hamels (37)
J.A. Happ (38) — $17MM vesting option
Merrill Kelly (32) — $4.25MM club option with a $500K buyout
Corey Kluber (35) — $17.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Mike Leake (33) — $18MM mutual option with a $5MM buyout
Jon Lester (37) — $25MM mutual/vesting option with a $10MM buyout
Mike Minor (33)
Charlie Morton (37) – $15MM vesting option
James Paxton (32)
Martin Perez (30) — $6.25MM club option with a $500K buyout
Rick Porcello (32)
Jose Quintana (32)
Robbie Ray (29)
Garrett Richards (33)
Jeff Samardzija (36)
Anibal Sanchez (37) — $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Marcus Stroman (30)
Masahiro Tanaka (32)
Michael Wacha (29)
Jordan Zimmermann (35)

Right-Handed Relievers

Pedro Baez (33)
Jesse Chavez (37)
Alex Colome (32)
Wade Davis (35) — $15MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout (becomes $15M player option if Davis finishes 30 games in 2020)
Chris Devenski (30)
Ken Giles (30)
Shane Greene (32)
Liam Hendriks (32)
Kelvin Herrera (31) — $10MM club/vesting option with a $1MM buyout
Keone Kela (28)
Trevor May (31)
Mark Melancon (36)
Brad Peacock (33)
Yusmeiro Petit (36)
David Robertson (36) — $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Sergio Romo (38) — $5MM club option with a $250K buyout
Bryan Shaw (33) — $9MM club/vesting option with a $2MM buyout
Joakim Soria (37)
Blake Treinen (33)
Brandon Workman (32)
Kirby Yates (34)

Left-Handed Relievers

Jose Alvarez (32)
Brett Cecil (34)
Andrew Chafin (31)
Sean Doolittle (34)
Brad Hand (31) — $10MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jake McGee (34) — $9MM club/vesting option with a $2MM buyout
Andrew Miller (36) — $12MM club/vesting option with a $2.5MM buyout
Oliver Perez (39)
Tony Watson (36)
Justin Wilson (33)

 

[Kelleyman]

And sooner or later market value will make fans stay away because prices to go and enjoy a ballgame have gotten out of hand. Why go and pay $12 for each beer $10-20 for parking and who knows how much per seat when you can sit at home in front of the big screen (or take it with you on your phone) for a fraction of the price?? Attendance peaked in 2007 and has been dropping every year since looks like fans are saying we've had enough, just like the voters did in 2016...

Very true from my perspective, a former season ticket holder. It would appear the Former STH, Joe Q Public is now big business STH. I have been relegated to the easy boy

 

[scotsman1948]

Minor league contracts with invites to ST doesn't mean they will see the majors in a Rangers uniform necessarily. You have to have guys in camp to compete.

agree only posted it

 

[fordman84]

I don't want to block anyone but what is a realistic solution to address our present 3B hole? I can't see putting a player who has only a dozen or starts at the position there on a fulltime basis

To me the solution is Warm Body. The difference between the best 3B and the worst on this Texas Rangers team isn't much of a difference. I don't want to waste big money on long years blocking our young guys in a few years just to win another 2 games this season.

 

[scotsman1948]

Very true from my perspective, a former season ticket holder. It would appear the Former STH, Joe Q Public is now big business STH. I have been relegated to the easy boy

i'm a former season ticket holder and it came down more to the product on the field that turned me off than the prices of the side items. you expect to pay more for the perks

 

[scotsman1948]

To me the solution is Warm Body. The difference between the best 3B and the worst on this Texas Rangers team isn't much of a difference. I don't want to waste big money on long years blocking our young guys in a few years just to win another 2 games this season.

even if that warm body stinks at the position?

 

[scotsman1948]

No way i would give up Crouse

I figured that Winn and Crouse are about even and with Allard, Palumbo, Burke, Phillips etc coming available about the same time to get an Arenado either Winn or Crouse would make sense

 

[jta4437]

Depending on what we do (or don't do) at 3B and/or would drive whether or not I would be open to trading Minor and/or others

 

[saddles]

JD and idiots are words that do not belong together

Lol

 

[saddles]

Unless you are KC

We are not KC. Our drafting and development is too poor to do it without some top notch free agents.

 

[saddles]

I figured that Winn and Crouse are about even and with Allard, Palumbo, Burke, Phillips etc coming available about the same time to get an Arenado either Winn or Crouse would make sense

That is ridiculous. Those guys are head and shoulders above Allard, Burke and Phillips. Better than Palumbo too.

 

[saddles]

What use does Colorado have for a DH? Because he sure isn't an everyday OFer

They need to take back some salary to make it work. They might want to get other teams lined up to make it all work.