Series Thread: 5) Indiana Pacers vs. 4) Cleveland Cavaliers

[gordontrue]

I never would've guessed that 3 games in the Cavs defense would be consistently very good while their offense has been mostly bad.

A lot of that is because of the Pacers. They aren't a great offensive team but they are a very good defensive team and they've dictated the pace most of the series so far.

That's why I'm not ready to give LeBron the "no help" pass or throw the rest of the Cavs players under the bus. The CAvs role players haven't played bad, the whole offense has just been a half-court grind. Those guys can't reasonably by expected to produce in that type of offense. (with the exception of Love who does need to step up offensively).

They need to figure out - as a team - how they're gonna get their offense going against the Pacers Defense. Just cause LeBron has been bailing them out offensively, doesn't mean he doesn't share a big part of that responsibility.

 

[LAD]

I never would've guessed that 3 games in the Cavs defense would be consistently very good while their offense has been mostly bad.

A lot of that is because of the Pacers. They aren't a great offensive team but they are a very good defensive team and they've dictated the pace most of the series so far.

That's why I'm not ready to give LeBron the "no help" pass or throw the rest of the Cavs players under the bus. The CAvs role players haven't played bad, the whole offense has just been a half-court grind. Those guys can't reasonably by expected to produce in that type of offense. (with the exception of Love who does need to step up offensively).

They need to figure out - as a team - how they're gonna get their offense going against the Pacers Defense. Just cause LeBron has been bailing them out offensively, doesn't mean he doesn't share a big part of that responsibility.

They better figure it out quickly cuz the clock is tickin

 

[Kold]

Man, the "Lebron's supporting cast is not enough" narrative is so annoying

 

[Kold]

That's not directed at anybody here though, but blame game is in full force on twitter

 

[LAD]

Man, the "Lebron's supporting cast is not enough" narrative is so annoying

Problem is they'll never be enough unless he's playing with 4 other AS. He's so much better than them that the standard is so high.

 

[gordontrue]

Last 5 times LeBron went down 2-1 in the playoffs:

2012 ECSF- Pacers (W)

2013 Finals- Spurs (W)

2014 Finals- Spurs (L)

2015 ECSF- Bulls (W)

2016 Finals- Warriors (W)

 

[msgkings322]

So you already determined that Irving isn’t a HOFer?

He's the only one with any shot. And the way he keeps getting injured...

 

[LAD]

Last 5 times LeBron went down 2-1 in the playoffs:

2012 ECSF- Pacers (W)

2013 Finals- Spurs (W)

2014 Finals- Spurs (L)

2015 ECSF- Bulls (W)

2016 Finals- Warriors (W)

So are you telling us we should be expecting trickery at any moment?!?

 

[LAD]

He's the only one with any shot. And the way he keeps getting injured...

Lol just stop, say you totally forgot about him playing with Kyrie the last 3 seasons & move on

 

[msgkings322]

He'll call the Pacers trash

And say the refs gave it to LeBron

 

[gordontrue]

That's not directed at anybody here though, but blame game is in full force on twitter

Its just lazy analysis. When you watch the game and see how great he is playing and his team loses, its low-hanging fruit to go with that narrative.

But it turns out basketball is a team sport. A team losing while their best player puts up stats isn't necessarily an indication that the player is great or that the rest of the player's aren't great. Games are won and lost as a team.

 

[msgkings322]

Lol just stop, say you totally forgot about him playing with Kyrie the last 3 seasons & move on

Nope, I knew one of y'all would bring him up. I'm not at all convinced he's a lock for the HOF

 

[msgkings322]

Its just lazy analysis. When you watch the game and see how great he is playing and his team loses, its low-hanging fruit to go with that narrative.

But it turns out basketball is a team sport. A team losing while their best player puts up stats isn't necessarily an indication that the player is great or that the rest of the player's aren't great. Games are won and lost as a team.

Yep. I thought LeBron was the Finals MVP in 2015 not Iguodala.

 

[Black Adam]

Lol just stop, say you totally forgot about him playing with Kyrie the last 3 seasons & move on

agreed here, actually. Love ain't the kinda sidekick Kyrie was...

 

[LAD]

Nope, I knew one of y'all would bring him up. I'm not at all convinced he's a lock for the HOF

Well then you're in denial. You can't ever talk about anyone who criticizes LBJ again because you'd be a hypocrite. SMH

 

[trojanfan12]

So......what's everybody having for dinner?

Had Korean BBQ Chicken.

 

[LAD]

agreed here, actually. Love ain't the kinda sidekick Kyrie was...

Honestly some might even believe Love gets in. So @msgkings is just all the way wrong.

 

[DJ]

Had Korean BBQ Chicken.

Never had Korean BBQ before.

*Adds to the bucket list*

 

[DJ]

@Ritzarmy is making me a sammich for dinner.

 

[msgkings322]

Well then you're in denial. You can't ever talk about anyone who criticizes LBJ again because you'd be a hypocrite. SMH

What in the name of Kobe are you talking about?