Big12's best days are ahead

[Scapegoat]

Still crazy the only teams that are relevant from the old Big 12 are the Okie schools and Colorado. Who would've thought Texas and Nebraska would be on the verge of Iowa State status.

 

[starbigd]

It is most certainly not necessary and OU is done with the Texas crap. Boren made that clear when he told the Big 12 if they didn't give Mayfield his last year of eligibility they could shove it and we were gone that year. Shit changed the very next day when he did that. Texas is not longer relevant, period.

This is a really, REALLY dumb take.

Texas is ALWAYS relevant......this is about money, not wins and losses. Texas and OU both are blue bloods, their actions dictate what others do. Texas has been courted to join nearly every other conference, moreso than OU has - mainly because Texas simply brings in more MONEY

You guys can be delusional all you want about your own schools' importance in the grand scheme of things, but make NO MISTAKES HERE - Texas is, and always will be, the big fish every conference would LOVE TO HAVE.

That gives them leverage, and as you all have admitted when it suits your argument - they know how to use that leverage.

 

[Deep Creek]

Looks like everyone is losing ground to the BIG at $50+million for each school.
Except for Texas of course.

Will the bubble ever burst or will it just keep getting bigger and bigger?

 

[BamaDude]

The B-12 should go ahead & add UCF & USF for the additional recruiting & exposure it can bring. Then, once UT & OU jump ship, the league can back-fill with Cincinnati & Houston so that everyone else doesn't have to waste their time looking for a new home.

 

[Deep Creek]

The B-12 should go ahead & add UCF & USF for the additional recruiting & exposure it can bring. Then, once UT & OU jump ship, the league can back-fill with Cincinnati & Houston so that everyone else doesn't have to waste their time looking for a new home.

That would be a smooth transition for the Big 12 to become a G5 conference.

Instead, I think they'll just continue to divide the revenue by 10 and suck all the money out of it as long as possible. Then they'll just shoot it dead.

 

[BamaDude]

That would be a smooth transition for the Big 12 to become a G5 conference.

Instead, I think they'll just continue to divide the revenue by 10 and suck all the money out of it as long as possible. Then they'll just shoot it dead.

Without Oklahoma & Texas, the Big 12 would be a G-5 conference, anyway. This would just make things a little easier for all involved.

 

[4down20]

Have Texas fans started talking about how much money they have yet?

 

[GoldRusher]

The B-12 should go ahead & add UCF & USF for the additional recruiting & exposure it can bring. Then, once UT & OU jump ship, the league can back-fill with Cincinnati & Houston so that everyone else doesn't have to waste their time looking for a new home.

Texas and OU leaving aint happening now, a Big12 raid on the PAC is more likely at this point BUT lets say for conversation sake you are correct.

Why would the current members want to take a paycut now by sharing our revenues with UCF/USF ect. When we could add all 4 at some point if/when Texas and OU (or anyone else for that matter) leave?

Its not like anyone else is after UCF/USF in the meantime so...If ya gonna start over, start over with as much money as possible.

Take it from a man who was an insider, as long as Texas is happy there will be a Big12 and the rest of us Longhorn lapdogs (including OU) will yap yap yap on command..

Zier: Upgrading football facilities a must for USF

 

[Deep Creek]

Without Oklahoma & Texas, the Big 12 would be a G-5 conference, anyway. This would just make things a little easier for all involved.

Agreed...that is what I was referring to.

 

[BamaDude]

Texas and OU leaving aint happening now, a Big12 raid on the PAC is more likely at this point BUT lets say for conversation sake you are correct. * I'm not sure the B-12 has what it takes to entice any of the Pac-12 schools to jump.

Why would the current members want to take a paycut now by sharing our revenues with UCF/USF ect. When we could add all 4 at some point if/when Texas and OU (or anyone else for that matter) leave? * Currently, the league only has one good state to recruit from, and that is Texas. Adding the Florida schools practically doubles their current prime recruiting territory & gives the league much more visibility, which eventually translates to more value to the networks in future negotiations. If you wait for Texas & Oklahoma to leave, then you are down to 8 teams and will fall behind the AAC in the pecking order.

Its not like anyone else is after UCF/USF in the meantime so...If ya gonna start over, start over with as much money as possible. * Adding the Florida schools is a win/win. It raises the league's visibility & recruiting access, and also does the same for the Knights & the Bulls. It also means teams like West Virginia & Oklahoma St. will still have a home if/when the big dogs leave. Otherwise, you're looking at a scramble to get into the AAC.


Take it from a man who was an insider, as long as Texas is happy there will be a Big12 and the rest of us Longhorn lapdogs (including OU) will yap yap yap on command.. * If things haven't changed by the time the Grant of Rights expires, don't be surprised if Oklahoma jumps ship - with or without the Longhorns.

Zier: Upgrading football facilities a must for USF

 

[amszete]

Texas and OU leaving aint happening now, a Big12 raid on the PAC is more likely at this point BUT lets say for conversation sake you are correct.

Why would the current members want to take a paycut now by sharing our revenues with UCF/USF ect. When we could add all 4 at some point if/when Texas and OU (or anyone else for that matter) leave?

Its not like anyone else is after UCF/USF in the meantime so...If ya gonna start over, start over with as much money as possible.

Take it from a man who was an insider, as long as Texas is happy there will be a Big12 and the rest of us Longhorn lapdogs (including OU) will yap yap yap on command..

Zier: Upgrading football facilities a must for USF

 

[7Samurai13]

Texas and OU leaving aint happening now, a Big12 raid on the PAC is more likely at this point BUT lets say for conversation sake you are correct.

Why would the current members want to take a paycut now by sharing our revenues with UCF/USF ect. When we could add all 4 at some point if/when Texas and OU (or anyone else for that matter) leave?

Its not like anyone else is after UCF/USF in the meantime so...If ya gonna start over, start over with as much money as possible.

Take it from a man who was an insider, as long as Texas is happy there will be a Big12 and the rest of us Longhorn lapdogs (including OU) will yap yap yap on command..

Zier: Upgrading football facilities a must for USF

Because then you have at least brought UCF and USF to P5 levels rather just adding 4 midmajors and guaranteeing that the Big12 is really just the AAC West.

 

[GoldRusher]

Because then you have at least brought UCF and USF to P5 levels rather just adding 4 midmajors and guaranteeing that the Big12 is really just the AAC West.

USF has already been at the "P5" level, same with Cincy, same with UConn from their BigEast days. Didn't mean squat for the AAC when realignment happened, wont mean squat for ____ conference if it happens again.

 

[GoldRusher]

Schools recruit nationally regardless. Having a school in conference doesn't mean much at all. If it did then BIG teams wouldn't have many kids from FL on their rosters but... they do, just like everyone else.
One of WVU's newest pipeline states for recruiting now is Georgia

 

[Deep Creek]

Because then you have at least brought UCF and USF to P5 levels rather just adding 4 midmajors and guaranteeing that the Big12 is really just the AAC West.

Without Texas and Oklahoma, the Big 12 is already AAC West.

 

[GoldRusher]

WVU be like "Hey VT"

 

[7Samurai13]

USF has already been at the "P5" level, same with Cincy, same with UConn from their BigEast days. Didn't mean squat for the AAC when realignment happened, wont mean squat for ____ conference if it happens again.

Please list the big wins for those teams. I think Syracuse might be USF’s Best win since 2011 with several seasons not being bowl eligible.

 

[amszete]

WVU be like "Hey VT"

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Is that money or some sort of VD from railing sheep in Morgantown? JK

Nah man - we're good! Once the new network gets going we are golden.

 

[GoldRusher]

Please list the big wins for those teams. I think Syracuse might be USF’s Best win since 2011 with several seasons not being bowl eligible.

Rutgers is a P5 right?

 

[Deep Creek]

Rutgers is a P5 right?

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