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Interesting article on the future of conference realignment

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Since we are talking about this anyway, I feel I should mention that Michigan St was #1 in the coaches poll and finished the season #1 in the coaches poll because they did not count bowl games.

Wasn't a big deal when Michigan St did it.

But just like Alabama and the AP the year before, when Alabama did it in their poll in the early 70's - suddenly a huge deal and needed to be changed.
The only title I bitch about that Alabama claims is the one where they finished third in the conference and somewhere in the teens in one of the polls.
 

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The only title I bitch about that Alabama claims is the one where they finished third in the conference and somewhere in the teens in one of the polls.

That would be 1941.

I wouldn't claim it, doesn't fit in the bounds of what I think are legit claims.

That said, technically Alabama finished 3rd in the conference this year and the 20th place the AP had us in was way off.
 

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16, 18, or 20 works in that scenario. Big 12 is swallowed up. I would love 20. That would mean 9 conference games and cut down on the fluff. A 4 team conference playoff would make the selection committee useless. Each conference has a mini-playoff and the winners play in NC playoff. I would hope that would also encourage OOC scheduling. Early losses would not be as significant in that system. Win your conference and you are in.

You would then have to "promote" 15 mid-majors to Power 5 status. I don't have any issues
with that.

What you would have, in reality...Is 8 Leagues with a cross-over League partner.

10 teams...Play 9 conf games and 3 OOC. (You could play a team from your cross-over
League partner as an OOC game, if you desired.)

Then the quarters (Conf title game)...the semis...the finals.

I could handle that.
 

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Did I say you were crying? Do I have to point out each individual fan that does it. Should I jump on every OSU fan who lumps all Michigan fans together?

What the hell is wrong w/ you, do you have brain damage? How difficult is it for you to comprehend this all started over my joke comment about Michigan State's opening game against Utah St? Again I will remind you that in your comment # 22 you claimed Ohio State opens the season against an FCS school. Which is incorrect. Stop acting like such a jackass.
 

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We just need to get rid of divisions and then everything becomes more flexible.

BTW 14 obviously does work because the SEC, ACC and B1G are doing it. You might not like it but it does work.

What doesn’t work is calling yourself the Big 12, having only 10, play a round robin and then a conference championship. All of that is ridiculously stupid.

Not about a the Big 12. 14 does not make logical sense. If you are trying to win a conference title you should make the path as equal as possible for all teams. 8 conference games in a 14 team league will obviously have issues. It's makes 0 sense that the difference in a division and a conference championship could come down to the 2 random games in the other division. Saying it is a good system because people do it is ridiculously stupid. Open your mind, push the SEC Kool Aid aside, and let logic in for a moment
 

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This will never be ok.

The NCAA can not exclude any school from joining the FBS level of college football, they can only set standards. So any format that is "win your conference and you're in" is exclusionary and would rightfully draw anti-trust type complaints.

There must exist an open door for all teams.

You can leave the committee if you like. It's not like a non-P5 team as a chance in the current system. This way just makes the job easier and let's it get decided on the field
 

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The Oklahoma schools may not want to go to the PAC too many issues with games starting late on the West Coast.

I think the SEC is a more likely option.

The Big 12 could add 6 American schools - Houston, SMU, the Florida schools, Memphis and Temple - and western mid-major powers Boise and BYU so that they could have a true national footprint.

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Not about a the Big 12. 14 does not make logical sense. If you are trying to win a conference title you should make the path as equal as possible for all teams. 8 conference games in a 14 team league will obviously have issues. It's makes 0 sense that the difference in a division and a conference championship could come down to the 2 random games in the other division. Saying it is a good system because people do it is ridiculously stupid. Open your mind, push the SEC Kool Aid aside, and let logic in for a moment
The CCG is a defacto playoff game so it works. You don’t have to like it but it does.
 

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The CCG is a defacto playoff game so it works. You don’t have to like it but it does.

That doesn't address the issue. Just look at SEC schedules. 3 teams won 7 games in the SEC.
Auburns opponents won 36 SEC games, Georgia's won 30, and Bama's won 26. That is ridiculous.
 

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We just need to get rid of divisions and then everything becomes more flexible.

BTW 14 obviously does work because the SEC, ACC and B1G are doing it. You might not like it but it does work.

What doesn’t work is calling yourself the Big 12, having only 10, play a round robin and then a conference championship. All of that is ridiculously stupid.


Oh man this post is golden. The 14 team conference isn't working, has a&m even ever played UGA? As for the Big 12, having a round robin then letting the top 2 teams play in the conf title game easily the most fair and balanced way to crown a champ in all of college football.
 

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The CCG is a defacto playoff game so it works. You don’t have to like it but it does.
a play off game would suggest that both sides have an opportunity to move on to the next round. this is not always true of a conference championship game.
 

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a play off game would suggest that both sides have an opportunity to move on to the next round. this is not always true of a conference championship game.
I would agree with your statement with one slight adjustment. Until the SEC champion doesn’t make the playoff then the SEC CCG is a defacto playoff game.
 

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Oh man this post is golden. The 14 team conference isn't working, has a&m even ever played UGA? As for the Big 12, having a round robin then letting the top 2 teams play in the conf title game easily the most fair and balanced way to crown a champ in all of college football.
If aTm was worth a crap they would’ve had their shot at Georgia this year. Again 14 teams work so you will just need to deal with your own insecurities.
 

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That doesn't address the issue. Just look at SEC schedules. 3 teams won 7 games in the SEC.
Auburns opponents won 36 SEC games, Georgia's won 30, and Bama's won 26. That is ridiculous.
Ridiculously awesome!!!
 

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If aTm was worth a crap they would’ve had their shot at Georgia this year. Again 14 teams work so you will just need to deal with your own insecurities.


Great logic.
 

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Did the ACC get any more money for the ESPN ACC network? Didn't they voluntarily sign over their tier 3 rights to ESPN?
 

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a play off game would suggest that both sides have an opportunity to move on to the next round. this is not always true of a conference championship game.

Only 1 side really needs to be in the hunt, because a loss could possibly keep them out.

Wisconsin vs Ohio St this past year is an example of that in action as I don't believe Ohio St legitimately still had a chance at that point.

It's why they say every game in the regular season is a playoff game(for those still in it).
 

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Did the ACC get any more money for the ESPN ACC network? Didn't they voluntarily sign over their tier 3 rights to ESPN?
The ACC has the worst deal in CFB, lets not beat the dead horse.
 

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I would agree with your statement with one slight adjustment. Until the SEC champion doesn’t make the playoff then the SEC CCG is a defacto playoff game.

It happened in the BCS and is this is ridiculous.
Unless you truly believe Bama and a 3 loss Florida team was a playoff game.
 

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Only 1 side really needs to be in the hunt, because a loss could possibly keep them out.

Wisconsin vs Ohio St this past year is an example of that in action as I don't believe Ohio St legitimately still had a chance at that point.

It's why they say every game in the regular season is a playoff game(for those still in it).

In that case you might as well say Bana vs Mercer was a playoff game
 
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