Packers hire new GM

[LambeauLegs]

A internal promotion so I expect more of the same from the Packers drafting method.

As I open the sports page of todays paper here is a front page article. There was also a front page article in Saturdays local Paper about Schneider. This sports writer Jason Wilde up in Green Bay wants to give him a blow job I think. I will be looking for Jason Wildes email and correct his thoughts on what he thought was the answer.

It is a good day in Green Bay land

Sundays Paper
Packers: John Schneider's return appears tall order, but sources say Joe Philbin will be back

Saturdays paper

Packers: Could general manager search lead to Seahawks GM and former Green Bay exec John Schneider?

 

[Dolemite censored]

I have learned it is never good to assume anything. As far as the Packer drafting method all I can say is with a healthy QB last year we were in the NFC Championship game and had out #6 defensove back playing the #1 defensive back because of all kinds of injuries similar to the injuries in the Seattle secondary this year. If the Pack can make the NFC Championship game with a good amount of injuries the drafting cant be that bad. To win it all though you need to be pretty healthy and get a little luck along the way and that is what did not go the Packers way last year.

If Rodgers plays all of this year they are in the playoffs and most likely there are no front office changes other than maybe Capers and the defense because they would have been in the playoffs for 9 years in a row and with the way the NFC is this year there is no dominant team. They could have made the NFC championship again and people would not be pissed off and my guess is limited changes would have been made other than possibly the defense.

I am guessing the new GM will see the improvements that need to be made that were shown when Rodgers was out and try to develop a team where if Rodgers misses time the results would be better than they were.

You just better hope Wilson does not miss 7 or 8 games as I think Seattle would be in similar or worse shape than what the Packers went through. You had your QB the whole year and did not qualify because of other deficiencies your team had. Is it possible your team had those deficiencies were there because of this drafting in the last 4 years.

Now Seattle needs to make of for those deficiencies with limited draft pics because of trades for free agents that did not pan out.

Are you hoping Seattle continues in their same drafting technique? All I have seen from you is posts over on your board that it is time to rebuild the team. I wont go and get copies of your posts saying that as you know you have made those statements. If a team needs to rebuild they must have been doing something wrong?

Now I did not rate these previous draft pics as the rating given was done by another Seattle fan.

2013 Draft

Christine Michael BUST
Jordan Hill BUST
Chris Harper BUST
Jesse Williams BUST
Tharold Simon BUST
Luke Willison AVERAGE
Spencer Ware BUST
Ryan Seymour BUST
Ty Powell BUST
Jared Smith BUST
Michael Bowie BUST

2014 Draft

Paul Richardson AVERAGE
Justin Britt AVERAGE
Cassius Marsh BUST
Kevin Norwood BUST
Kevin Peirre louis BUST
Jimmy Staten BUST
Garrett Scott BUST
Eric Pinkins BUST
Keiro Small BUST

2015 draft

Frank Clark GOOD
Tyler Lockett AVERAGE
Terry Pool BUST
Mark Glowinski BUST
Tye Smith BUST
Obum Gwachum BUST
Kritjian Skioli BUST
Ryan Murphy BUST

2016 Draft

Germain Ifedi BUST
Jarran Reed AVERAGE
CJ Prosise BUST
Nick Vannett AVERAGE
Rees Odhiambo BUST
Quintin Jefferson AVERAGE
Alex Collins AVERAGE
Joey Hunt BUST
Ken Lawler BUST
Zac Brooks BUST


I counted 38 draft pics and 29 rated as busts over 4 years with 8 as average and 1 as good. My guess is most teams would like more than 1 good player drafted every 4 years.

You best hope Schneider does not continue whatever his draft strategy is in the future with the rebuild that you say your team needs ahead of you.

I find this persuasive.

 

[Mack]

A internal promotion so I expect more of the same from the Packers drafting method.

That’s what I’m afraid of. Personally, I would rather GB go outside the org. for all the positions available. A change is needed. Maybe he has a different philosophy than TT. Have to wait and see starting in the off season.

 

[SeizeTheCarp]

A internal promotion so I expect more of the same from the Packers drafting method.

John Schneider worked under Ted Thompson for about five years.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I have learned it is never good to assume anything. As far as the Packer drafting method all I can say is with a healthy QB last year we were in the NFC Championship game and had out #6 defensove back playing the #1 defensive back because of all kinds of injuries similar to the injuries in the Seattle secondary this year. If the Pack can make the NFC Championship game with a good amount of injuries the drafting cant be that bad. To win it all though you need to be pretty healthy and get a little luck along the way and that is what did not go the Packers way last year.

If Rodgers plays all of this year they are in the playoffs and most likely there are no front office changes other than maybe Capers and the defense because they would have been in the playoffs for 9 years in a row and with the way the NFC is this year there is no dominant team. They could have made the NFC championship again and people would not be pissed off and my guess is limited changes would have been made other than possibly the defense.

I am guessing the new GM will see the improvements that need to be made that were shown when Rodgers was out and try to develop a team where if Rodgers misses time the results would be better than they were.

You just better hope Wilson does not miss 7 or 8 games as I think Seattle would be in similar or worse shape than what the Packers went through. You had your QB the whole year and did not qualify because of other deficiencies your team had. Is it possible your team had those deficiencies were there because of this drafting in the last 4 years.

Now Seattle needs to make of for those deficiencies with limited draft pics because of trades for free agents that did not pan out.

Are you hoping Seattle continues in their same drafting technique? All I have seen from you is posts over on your board that it is time to rebuild the team. I wont go and get copies of your posts saying that as you know you have made those statements. If a team needs to rebuild they must have been doing something wrong?

Now I did not rate these previous draft pics as the rating given was done by another Seattle fan.

2013 Draft

Christine Michael BUST
Jordan Hill BUST
Chris Harper BUST
Jesse Williams BUST
Tharold Simon BUST
Luke Willison AVERAGE
Spencer Ware BUST
Ryan Seymour BUST
Ty Powell BUST
Jared Smith BUST
Michael Bowie BUST

2014 Draft

Paul Richardson AVERAGE
Justin Britt AVERAGE
Cassius Marsh BUST
Kevin Norwood BUST
Kevin Peirre louis BUST
Jimmy Staten BUST
Garrett Scott BUST
Eric Pinkins BUST
Keiro Small BUST

2015 draft

Frank Clark GOOD
Tyler Lockett AVERAGE
Terry Pool BUST
Mark Glowinski BUST
Tye Smith BUST
Obum Gwachum BUST
Kritjian Skioli BUST
Ryan Murphy BUST

2016 Draft

Germain Ifedi BUST
Jarran Reed AVERAGE
CJ Prosise BUST
Nick Vannett AVERAGE
Rees Odhiambo BUST
Quintin Jefferson AVERAGE
Alex Collins AVERAGE
Joey Hunt BUST
Ken Lawler BUST
Zac Brooks BUST


I counted 38 draft pics and 29 rated as busts over 4 years with 8 as average and 1 as good. My guess is most teams would like more than 1 good player drafted every 4 years.

You best hope Schneider does not continue whatever his draft strategy is in the future with the rebuild that you say your team needs ahead of you.

If you’ve read my posts you’ll see I consider building a championship team a cycle. Start from scratch, draft well and with some luck with health and such, win a SB, from there it a battle against attrition. Players are going into their second contracts and want to get paid. Other teams are doing their best to raid their roster. Even coaches are getting pouched. Eventually the players that help win that championship need to be replaced, so then the cycle starts over.
I consider these last few years ( since Pete was named HC) the golden years of Seahawks history and feel the future is bright as long as Paul Allen, JS, Pete and RW are all there. Everyone else is replaceable, some easily some a bit more difficult, but replaceable.

 

[LambeauLegs]

If you’ve read my posts you’ll see I consider building a championship team a cycle. Start from scratch, draft well and with some luck with health and such, win a SB, from there it a battle against attrition. Players are going into their second contracts and want to get paid. Other teams are doing their best to raid their roster. Even coaches are getting pouched. Eventually the players that help win that championship need to be replaced, so then the cycle starts over.
I consider these last few years ( since Pete was named HC) the golden years of Seahawks history and feel the future is bright as long as Paul Allen, JS, Pete and RW are all their. Everyone else is replaceable, some easily some a bit more difficult, but replaceable.

Oh Ok but I am more on the New England train of thought to be good every damn year and not cycle where you are good for a few years every 10 years. The Packers have been consistent in making the playoffs but need to make a few changes which we can hope the most recent changes can help with the be fighting for deep playoff runs every year.

You are saying it is time to rebuild in Seattle but with their current state tell me how easy you think that will be with no draft pics in the early rounds this next draft and many players to replace with players careers ending with injuries, older players not as effective and an o line that needs a huge up grade and no quality running backs that can stay healthy.

Who's fault is that to be in that situation? I dont think all of that can be blamed on Cable

 

[Mack]

If you’ve read my posts you’ll see I consider building a championship team a cycle. Start from scratch, draft well and with some luck with health and such, win a SB, from there it a battle against attrition. Players are going into their second contracts and want to get paid. Other teams are doing their best to raid their roster. Even coaches are getting pouched. Eventually the players that help win that championship need to be replaced, so then the cycle starts over.
I consider these last few years ( since Pete was named HC) the golden years of Seahawks history and feel the future is bright as long as Paul Allen, JS, Pete and RW are all their. Everyone else is replaceable, some easily some a bit more difficult, but replaceable.

So how do the Pats continue to compete for a championship year in and year out? It doesn’t appear they go thru any type of cycle. They just plug in and play. Belicheck’s system? Weak ass division?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Oh Ok but I am more on the New England train of thought to be good every damn year and not cycle where you are good for a few years every 10 years. The Packers have been consistent in making the playoffs but need to make a few changes which we can hope the most recent changes can help with the be fighting for deep playoff runs every year.

You are saying it is time to rebuild in Seattle but with their current state tell me how easy you think that will be with no draft pics in the early rounds this next draft and many players to replace with players careers ending with injuries, older players not as effective and an o line that needs a huge up grade and no quality running backs that can stay healthy.

Who's fault is that to be in that situation? I dont think all of that can be blamed on Cable

Look the NFL is set up to promote parity with the salary cap and draft order. Patriots have done a great job of over coming parity, but guess which team is next in line? That’s right the Seahawks. Next year looks tough with a tight cap and few draft picks, but fortunately the Seahawks got the right folks in charge and I believe they’ll find a way to improve. Come 2019 the cap will no longer be a problem as the Seahawks have a ton of cap space. I don’t mind being patient, because I believe that I will see the Seahawks in the SB at least once more or twice this decade.

 

[Anointed One]

The Seahawks denied Green Bay permission to interview Schneider despite his desire to return to Green Bay. This might sour relations between him and ownership.

Just curious, did he recently say he desires to return to Green Bay when the GM position for GB opened up? In Schneider's new extension with the Hawks, he didn't have a clause added that would allow him the opportunity to go to GB if the GM position opened like he did in his previous contract with Seattle... That tells me that it wasn't a priority like it was before... I'm curious as to why you keep saying that he desires to go back to GB? How do you know that's still the case? Talks in Seattle over the past few months indicate that his wife loves it here in Seattle and so does he...

 

[HaroldSeattle]

So how do the Pats continue to compete for a championship year in and year out? It doesn’t appear they go thru any type of cycle. They just plug in and play. Belicheck’s system? Weak ass division?

They cheat. Just joking. The Pats have been the exception to parity. Could give you numerous reasons, but what the point in that? The norm is what happened to the Broncos after winning the SB, or the Ravens, or the Giants. You can even look at the teams that lost the SB, Like the Panthers or 49ers.
I’m pretty happy with the Seahawks, those so called Seahawks fans that are not are simply bandwagon fans and they can jump off the wagon and I’ll applaud.

 

[GNG]

That’s what I thought. Wishful thinking.

Actually I stated the facts.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Actually I stated the facts.

The fact is that was wishful thinking.

 

[GNG]

Just curious, did he recently say he desires to return to Green Bay when the GM position for GB opened up? In Schneider's new extension with the Hawks, he didn't have a clause added that would allow him the opportunity to go to GB if the GM position opened like he did in his previous contract with Seattle... That tells me that it wasn't a priority like it was before... I'm curious as to why you keep saying that he desires to go back to GB? How do you know that's still the case? Talks in Seattle over the past few months indicate that his wife loves it here in Seattle and so does he...

Maybe he'll be happy in Seattle.

 

[GNG]

The fact is that was wishful thinking.

The fact is I stated the facts...

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

So how do the Pats continue to compete for a championship year in and year out? It doesn’t appear they go thru any type of cycle. They just plug in and play. Belicheck’s system? Weak ass division?

Brady and BB's system. As long as those two are on the field, NE will always be in SB talks.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Maybe he'll be happy in Seattle.

I'm sure he's happy in Seattle.

 

[GNG]

So how do the Pats continue to compete for a championship year in and year out? It doesn’t appear they go thru any type of cycle. They just plug in and play. Belicheck’s system? Weak ass division?

It's a combination of Belichick and a weak AFC. The road to the SB is easier in the AFC than the NFC.

 

[GNG]

I'm sure he's happy in Seattle.

Not as happy as he would have been in Green Bay in my opinion.

 

[GNG]

Brady and BB's system. As long as those two are on the field, NE will always be in SB talks.

The Patriots should be thankful they are in the AFC.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Not as happy as he would have been in Green Bay in my opinion.

Not true at all or he could have resigned his position and walked into Lambo as the new GM.