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Elliot expected to be granted TRO

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Seems fair

Seems there is enough reasonable doubt here

Reasonable doubt about what? Last year's deflate-gate ruling established that Goodell can punish as he sees fit, regardless of evidence.
 

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Reasonable doubt about what? Last year's deflate-gate ruling established that Goodell can punish as he sees fit, regardless of evidence.

I honestly tuned out of that whole debacle so there's a good chance this is inaccurate: but wasn't the "evidence" destroyed with Brady's cell phone?
 

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I honestly tuned out of that whole debacle so there's a good chance this is inaccurate: but wasn't the "evidence" destroyed with Brady's cell phone?

Doesn't matter. Current CBA allows Goodell to rule as he sees fit.
 

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Most those teams below you barely count as teams.

Still puts us as in the middle, as in average and in FACT not "one of the worst".
 

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I honestly tuned out of that whole debacle so there's a good chance this is inaccurate: but wasn't the "evidence" destroyed with Brady's cell phone?

Brady did not destroy any evidence during the initial investigation. He just did not turn over the information the investigator requested. It did play into the decision because of credibility. During the appeal is when Brady gave the information but only because he was using it for his appeal. Brady hired a forensic examiner to review his phone but my understanding is that they did not do a search on the parameters the NFL wanted. Then of course A phone was destroyed and that appeared to be suspect but to be honest it was his right.
 

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Yet only 2 wildcard round playoff wins. Congrats.

Which means we have the same number of wins or more than 10 NFL teams. Again, that's not "one of the worst"
 

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Which means we have the same number of wins or more than 10 NFL teams. Again, that's not "one of the worst"

21st of 32 is kinda one of the worst (34th percentile). Definitely worse than that top 15 in regular season wins would leave you to believe.
 

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21st of 32 is kinda one of the worst (34th percentile). Definitely worse than that top 15 in regular season wins would leave you to believe.

better than 1/3 of the league is "one of the worst"?

d'ok
 

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You're right. The Browns are the worst. You're a bit above.

Good thing you are able to cherry pick the time range to exclude the 90's when we dominated.

how about we look at since the creation of the modern NFL and see which teams rank the worst.
 

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21st of 32 is kinda one of the worst (34th percentile). Definitely worse than that top 15 in regular season wins would leave you to believe.
LOL...now you are just embarrassing yourself...
 

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Good thing you are able to cherry pick the time range to exclude the 90's when we dominated.

how about we look at since the creation of the modern NFL and see which teams rank the worst.

I didn't cherry pick the timeframe. 2,000 years is 2,000 years. Blame Jesus.

And all those Eagles Championships were delicious. All of them. My favorite were the back to back shutouts. Most dominate team ever - The Philadelphia Eagles. No one else can even get close to back to back championship shutouts.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it. Heard lots of armchair lawyers saying that he wouldn't be suspended, then the appeal would be reduced, then the appeal would overturn it all, and now this.

Some judges are notorious for being harder on the side he's going to go with.
I'd rather he serves his suspension now so he'll be available sooner. Why prolong the inevitable?
 

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In law you first file a temporary restraining order. Then you have a hearing about it.
Did you get your law degree out of a box of Wheaties.
 

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I didn't cherry pick the timeframe. 2,000 years is 2,000 years. Blame Jesus.

And all those Eagles Championships were delicious. All of them. My favorite were the back to back shutouts. Most dominate team ever - The Philadelphia Eagles. No one else can even get close to back to back championship shutouts.

Ah, so if you are talking about 2000 years and not just since the year 2000 then I need to rerun my numbers. You are DEAD wrong if you think in the last 2000 years Dallas is one of the worst NFL teams.

You moved the goalposts and then ran right into them :L
 
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