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Urban Meyer: 'Penn State deserved to be in playoff'

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Urban Meyer: Penn State deserved to be in playoff after winning Big Ten


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You do have to wonder what the point of a conference championship game is if you can win your conference and still lose out on the playoff to a team that:

a) You beat earlier in the year
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b) Didn't even make the conference championship game (i.e. didn't have to play as many games as every other team that made the playoff)

Sure, the structure/process on how conference championship games are determined is flawed. Ideally it would have been an Ohio St vs. Penn St. rematch for the conference title. But as the rules stand now, sending a team that didn't win their conference to the playoff (especially when they get in over a team that won that same conference) is a dangerous precedent to set.
 

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He's got the table set this year. Don't get blown out and then also lose to a lesser team out of conference, and you're good to go.
 

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Why wouldn't he refuse the invite then?
 

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Getting waxed by Michigan and 2 losses kept them out.

That's ok to say that, but it creates a second question. Why should the team that they
beat get in over them? I've always thought the term "head-to-head" was supposed
to mean something. I guess it didn't.

AND...because Clemson waxed you the argument then becomes, should the Big10
even get a play off spot?
 

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That's ok to say that, but it creates a second question. Why should the team that they
beat get in over them? I've always thought the term "head-to-head" was supposed
to mean something. I guess it didn't.

AND...because Clemson waxed you the argument then becomes, should the Big10
even get a play off spot?

Because Ohio St was the better team.
 

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Why should the team that they
beat get in over them? I've always thought the term "head-to-head" was supposed
to mean something. I guess it didn't.

If head to head is the only determining factor why should Penn State get in over Michigan?

AND...because Clemson waxed you the argument then becomes, should the Big10
even get a play off spot?

As I recall Florida State got waxed in their last playoff appearance by Oregon. Should the ACC be left out of the playoffs? I would have been fine with Ohio State or the Big being left out if there was a plausible argument.
 
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He's wrong, it would be a different story if they choose their champion better.

This is a lot like Alabama and LSU in 2011. Because the SEC has crappy divisions, the 2 best teams did not end up playing for the conference championship.
Win your division, play for the conference title. It doesn't get much simpler than that.
 

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Win your division, play for the conference title. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

Simple doesn't mean best. And the playoffs take the 4 best teams, not 4 conference champions.
 

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What would be a better way?

Same thing the SEC needs to do.

Get rid of divisons completely, they are unbalanced and they do not lead to the 2 best teams playing for the conference.

Designate 2 or 3 permament rivalry games that get played every year. Ohio St vs Michigan every year, etc. The games that matter most, you keep them.

Rotate the rest of the conference games.

Take the 2 best teams at the end of the year and put them in the championship game. And if a rematch is needed, then it's better than taking some team that doesn't deserve it and putting them in there.

Even on an 8 game conference schedule, you'll never go more than like 2 years without playing any team in the conference.
 

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He's wrong, it would be a different story if they choose their champion better.

This is a lot like Alabama and LSU in 2011. Because the SEC has crappy divisions, the 2 best teams did not end up playing for the conference championship.

But the difference is ....

LSU didn't get left out in favor of Alabama. They both went to the title game.
 

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Ohio St. got in because of name brand and that includes Urban Meyer which equals TV sets across the country. Seriously has anyone ever been on a college football board or a college football Facebook group that didn't have a horde of Ohio St. fans? It's like they have their own army for fvks sake. That's not knocking them, its just being honest.
 

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But the difference is ....

LSU didn't get left out in favor of Alabama. They both went to the title game.

LSU was undefeated and Alabama had more losses.

Ohio St had 1 loss, Penn St had 2 losses.
 

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Ohio St. got in because of name brand and that includes Urban Meyer which equals TV sets across the country. Seriously has anyone ever been on a college football board or a college football Facebook group that didn't have a horde of Ohio St. fans? It's like they have their own army for fvks sake. That's not knocking them, its just being honest.

Ohio St would have beaten Washington.
 
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