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Series Thread: Series With Rays Begins Among Trade Rumors July 21 - 23

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Darvish won't leave mid-season...when the Rangers are still in the playoff hunt. Baseball 101.

The chances of resigning Darvish are low. The Rangers have already been turned off by his Strasburg like contract demands. They don't want to pay it. I don't know if they even have the cap room. What we get in a trade would likely trump the draft compensation we would receive for losing him at the end of the year. We talked all year about keeping him, I know pretty much everyone on this board was hoping that the Rangers were secretly making progress on an extension behind the scenes and now that we know that is definitely not the case, we need to get what we can for a player that seems to be all but gone next year.
 

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The chances of resigning Darvish are low. The Rangers have already been turned off by his Strasburg like contract demands. They don't want to pay it. I don't know if they even have the cap room. What we get in a trade would likely trump the draft compensation we would receive for losing him at the end of the year. We talked all year about keeping him, I know pretty much everyone on this board was hoping that the Rangers were secretly making progress on an extension behind the scenes and now that we know that is definitely not the case, we need to get what we can for a player that seems to be all but gone next year.


So what is fair compensation? What team is going to give up what's "fair" for a player that might only be around for less than half a season?
 

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So what is fair compensation? What team is going to give up what's "fair" for a player that might only be around for less than half a season?

The Rangers should get a top 100 prospect for sure or don't even listen to the guy on the other end of the phone. Ideally a pitching prospect that projects to a future #1 or #2. Since he's a rental, I'd make one blue chip prospect mandatory and try to get 2. Darvish is the only pitcher on the board who could push a team over the top. I think the Rangers would have some leverage. Especially if the injury news on Kershaw and strasburg isn't good. I hope Kershaw is ok, otherwise my fantasy team is in trouble.
 

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The chances of resigning Darvish are low. The Rangers have already been turned off by his Strasburg like contract demands. They don't want to pay it. I don't know if they even have the cap room. What we get in a trade would likely trump the draft compensation we would receive for losing him at the end of the year. We talked all year about keeping him, I know pretty much everyone on this board was hoping that the Rangers were secretly making progress on an extension behind the scenes and now that we know that is definitely not the case, we need to get what we can for a player that seems to be all but gone next year.

Cap room? Do you even baseball, bro?
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, we can't trade Darvish to the Astros we just can't. I know the situation isn't totally the same, but the best comparison I can come up with is the Cliff Lee trade that we made during the year of our first World Series run. We came very close to re-signing him and some people think we would have if we were able to beat the Giants. Re-signing him would have given us a better chance to repeat, since in hindsight, we were very close to winning the following World Series. He probably would've taken Matt Harrison's spot in the World Series rotation. Both of Harrison's starts were losses to the cardinals.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that by trading Darvish to the Astros we would be giving them a much better chance to win the World Series and re-sign him as a free agent. Unfortunately, it doesn't end there. We all know that Ohtani is still out there and that he's friends with / looks up to Darvish. If Darvish goes down to Houston and has the time of his life, he could get Ohtani to join him down there. We would be literally screwed for the next 10 years if the Astros had a rotation that started with Keuchel, Darvish, Ohtani, and McCullers.


The ideal trade partner is the Los Angeles dodgers. They have the perceived need to " get over the hump". These guys seem to win the NL west every single year, but they never make it to the World Series. Historically, the Dodgers are not an aggressive deadline team. They don't like to hurriedly trade prospects at the deadline. You'd argue that they don't want to waste Kershaw prime and they should be feeling a sense of urgency. They have really good prospects to give us, if they're ready to make a deal. I'm hoping to see him go to LA.
I don't agree. Where he finishes this year has nothing to do with who signs him in my opinion.
 

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Chirinos expected to go on DL as well... Which probably fucks up the chance to trade Johnny Baseball.
 

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Been on vacation and managed to make out to a Salt Lake Bees game tonight, awesome baseball venue
 

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Kershaw expected to go on DL. The plot thickens.

I want it to happen at this point. I don't think Darvish is staying. Just hoping we get one blue chip prospect back for him at least.
 

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I want it to happen at this point. I don't think Darvish is staying. Just hoping we get one blue chip prospect back for him at least.
The Rays didn't cooperate though.
 

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The Rays didn't cooperate though.

I know it sucks.

This team is so bipolar. I just don't see them making the playoffs at all. They have so many 10+ strikeout games, the bullpen is still not totally trustworthy, the offense relies too much on the long bomb. The coaching isn't very good.
 
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