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Michigan football player pleads guilty to felony

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So fans of both Michigan schools are arguing which teams players accused of sexual assault are worse than the others players accused of sexual assault. Nice.
Nope. Michigan State's is definitely worse. Michigan fans are pretending theirs didn't happen and are deflecting to Michigan State to say that "it's just an ass grab. It's ok".
 

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You mean players who never stepped foot on campus again? yeah bring it up all you want. and even though charges were dropped they can disappear and rot for all I care. I don't give them a pass like all of you .
See the difference ?
Their accused crime is, again, much different than Perry's. r*pe (including forced sodomy) and grabbing an ass are just totally different.
 

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Nope. Michigan State's is definitely worse. Michigan fans are pretending theirs didn't happen and are deflecting to Michigan State to say that "it's just an ass grab. It's ok".
I'm not pretending it didn't happen. I'm suggesting that he's going to be, and has been, punished for his relatively minor crime. Despite the crime being in the same category as r*pe, it is no where in the same ballpark in terms of severity. Kind of like how throwing a glass of water on someone and bashing your wife's head against the wall are both types of assault.
 

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I'm not pretending it didn't happen. I'm suggesting that he's going to be, and has been, punished for his relatively minor crime. Despite the crime being in the same category as r*pe, it is no where in the same ballpark in terms of severity. Kind of like how throwing a glass of water on someone and bashing your wife's head against the wall are both types of assault.
Wasn't talking about you. UM grad is the one saying that it didn't happen because she wants to make up a mythical story that the victim changed her mind and wouldn't testify despite that never happened.
 

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Wasn't talking about you. UM grad is the one saying that it didn't happen because she wants to make up a mythical story that the victim changed her mind and wouldn't testify despite that never happened.

Please show me where I said it didn't happen.
 

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And you know this how? Were you there? And, an MSU fan shouldn't point fingers given what's going on at MSU.

I can read the news just like you apparently can. How do you know that the victim didn't change her story and wouldn't testify? As for deflecting, . . . get a grip.

Please show me where I said it didn't happen.
I said it happened, you get all upset that I didn't suggest Perry was innocent. Then you made up a fantasy that the victim changed her story and wouldn't testify rather than the much more likely story that the prosecutor saw an opportunity to save us from having a trial by dropping the lessor charges that is nearly impossible to prove, like many sexual assault cases and get the definite win, while Perry gets saved from being branded an accused r@pist and having that follow him everywhere.
 

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I said it happened, you get all upset that I didn't suggest Perry was innocent. Then you made up a fantasy that the victim changed her story and wouldn't testify rather than the much more likely story that the prosecutor saw an opportunity to save us from having a trial by dropping the lessor charges that is nearly impossible to prove, like many sexual assault cases and get the definite win, while Perry gets saved from being branded an accused r@pist and having that follow him everywhere.

I didn't say Perry was "innocent"--that's your made-up story.
 

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I'm not pretending it didn't happen. I'm suggesting that he's going to be, and has been, punished for his relatively minor crime. Despite the crime being in the same category as r*pe, it is no where in the same ballpark in terms of severity. Kind of like how throwing a glass of water on someone and bashing your wife's head against the wall are both types of assault.
Its just a little sexual assault, get on the field and catch that ball!
 

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Its just a little sexual assault, get on the field and catch that ball!
I actually want a whole roster made of sexual assaulters, that's the ideal situation.
 

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Weasel Harbaugh letting a sexual abuser stay on the team.

Slimy.
 

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Yes because Michigan hasn't had in the last 5 years had a r@pist, someone who threaten to r@pe a sexual assault victim, a guy who choke slammed his girlfriend in front of her two little brothers, and now this guy. Continue to deflect to Michigan State.

Michigan State fans are looking for anything to deflect attention from the train wreck their school and program is becoming.

You act like any fan of UM cares if Grant Perry does or doesn't return to school. He won't even see the field if he does.

In regards to his 'sexual assault' -- if it had any validity, you'd see him going to trial on the charges. They aren't going to just drop a sexual assault charge (id think a MSU fan would know this more than anyone else other than a Baylor fan).
 

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Michigan State fans are looking for anything to deflect attention from the train wreck their school and program is becoming.

You act like any fan of UM cares if Grant Perry does or doesn't return to school. He won't even see the field if he does.

In regards to his 'sexual assault' -- if it had any validity, you'd see him going to trial on the charges. They aren't going to just drop a sexual assault charge (id think a MSU fan would know this more than anyone else other than a Baylor fan).
Tell you what, why don't you go into the Michigan State thread where I said to take this shit out of there because I didn't want the deflection. So you are completely wrong on that count. And as I said here, there is no evidence to prove it and the prosecutor's would rather not go to trial with something that they know they can't prove happened and take the for sure win without wasting tax payer money. Doesn't mean it won't happen. And I will make an avy bet with you that he will see the field next season. He is your top returning receiver and as Michigan fans have already pointed out "he was punished last year".
 

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Weasel Harbaugh letting a sexual abuser stay on the team.

Slimy.

President Trump is that you?

Better presidential impersonation than SNL has done, although you did forget #bad
 

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Tell you what, why don't you go into the Michigan State thread where I said to take this shit out of there because I didn't want the deflection. So you are completely wrong on that count. And as I said here, there is no evidence to prove it and the prosecutor's would rather not go to trial with something that they know they can't prove happened and take the for sure win without wasting tax payer money. Doesn't mean it won't happen. And I will make an avy bet with you that he will see the field next season. He is your top returning receiver and as Michigan fans have already pointed out "he was punished last year".

How would there be no evidence? If what happened is true, it was outside a crowded bar and they literally got to talk to everyone involved. That is why I said it was a BS charge to begin with. No chance the city of Lansing/MSU is going to just let a sexual assault slide after everything going on there.

As far as Perry being punished -- he was suspended indefinitely last year, missed 2 or 3 weeks, was reinstated when he wasn't charged, then when they announced after the season they would bring up charges, he was suspended from all football related activities -- didn't go on the team trip, hasn't practiced with the team, etc. and is still suspended from the team.


If what Perry had done was remotely on par with sexually assaulting a female -- I'd be calling for him to booted immediately. In all honesty, I couldn't care less if he was or wasn't booted. The 'leading WR' had like 150 yards on the year. He is a dime a dozen slot WR.
 

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How would there be no evidence? If what happened is true, it was outside a crowded bar and they literally got to talk to everyone involved. That is why I said it was a BS charge to begin with. No chance the city of Lansing/MSU is going to just let a sexual assault slide after everything going on there.

As far as Perry being punished -- he was suspended indefinitely last year, missed 2 or 3 weeks, was reinstated when he wasn't charged, then when they announced after the season they would bring up charges, he was suspended from all football related activities -- didn't go on the team trip, hasn't practiced with the team, etc. and is still suspended from the team.


If what Perry had done was remotely on par with sexually assaulting a female -- I'd be calling for him to booted immediately. In all honesty, I couldn't care less if he was or wasn't booted. The 'leading WR' had like 150 yards on the year. He is a dime a dozen slot WR.
It's a he said/she said case. It's not like they could take fingerprints off her ass to prove that he did it. You do know that most sexual assault cases do not get prosecuted because they can't prove that anything happened? You do get that right? So are you saying that every r@pe and sexual assault case where they don't have physical evidence is a bull shit charge? Are you seriously that much of a blind homer to actually believe that?

And Perry is in fact back with the team when his suspension was lifted at the beginning of the month.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...chigan-wolverines-grant-perry-back/367678001/
 

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Meanwhile in East Lansing:

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It's a he said/she said case. It's not like they could take fingerprints off her ass to prove that he did it. You do know that most sexual assault cases do not get prosecuted because they can't prove that anything happened? You do get that right? So are you saying that every r@pe and sexual assault case where they don't have physical evidence is a bull shit charge? Are you seriously that much of a blind homer to actually believe that?

And Perry is in fact back with the team when his suspension was lifted at the beginning of the month.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...chigan-wolverines-grant-perry-back/367678001/

A blind homer? I've already said I couldn't care less if he stays or goes and called him a dime a dozen slot WR.

And if it were just Perry and this girl outside by themselves, I'd agree. They were standing in line WITH DOZENS OF OTHER WITNESSES. You do realize, this all happened because he was trying to cut in line to get into a bar.

You are talking like they met in a secluded alley and it is just her word against his because no one saw anything. :L
 

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A blind homer? I've already said I couldn't care less if he stays or goes and called him a dime a dozen slot WR.

And if it were just Perry and this girl outside by themselves, I'd agree. They were standing in line WITH DOZENS OF OTHER WITNESSES. You do realize, this all happened because he was trying to cut in line to get into a bar.

You are talking like they met in a secluded alley and it is just her word against his because no one saw anything. :L
You do realize the only way that someone sees what happens is if they are staring at her ass. When you are in line with your friends to get into a bar, do you spend the entire time staring at one girl's ass or do you talk to your friends? But yes no Michigan player ever does wrong.

Here you go @MAIZEandBLUE09, a Michigan homer who believes nothing happened. You have lost your crown as the biggest Wolverine slappy. Now you got to step your game up.
 
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