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A Fair and Honest Evaluation of Alabama's Schedule

ralphiewvu

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No, I'm saying most of the Big12 and Pac12 are closer to those Sun belt and Mac opponents.

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Maybe closer, but actually aren't where those MAC and Sunbelt teams are. I'm sure you'll agree there is a difference.

A chart on game efficiency. Unfortunately them taking into account what conference doesn't seem to be part of the process.
 

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I dont concern myself with the rest of the SEC, only Alabama. This is why my argument has been geared towards what Bama did in head to head against two of the top 3 from the PAC 12. Bama plays what is on their schedule and I have stated before, some games I could live without, but I know why they are played. Georgia St a few years back was because Bill Curry asked for games to build their program and gain exposure for a run to FBS level, they got the games and movec to FBS Level.

I hear Chattanooga St is doing so as well. This is why we have played them a few times recently.

With Bama playing a top school in P5 each year to start the Season, I see no need to do more until all teams wanna change the rules that P5 plays only P5, or the SEC yields to Sabans plans to move to a 9 game in conference schedule. Both of which Saban has been on record for doing.

Truthfully I don't give a crap about bama. My comments were geared toward those disingenuous claims that playing 8 conference games is no different then playing 9. To that I call BS.
 

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It's kind of funny how fans of other teams have come to hate Alabama worse than Auburn fans.

LOL. Whats funny is how attached you are to a team you've never seen play. I don't hate Alabama. They are a great team. It's not smoke and mirrors, they get the top recruiting class every year. I actually paid money to fly to texas , spend my hard earned money for four days and buy tickets and watch USC and Bama play. I didn't think USC would win but I still went which is more than yo can say.
What you're butthurt ass doesn't get is Alabama is in the SEC which had one division so bad if not for those cupcakes you say you don't need would have had all but maybe one team bowl ineligible. What you also don't get when you post UCLAs record and Arizonas record and Oregons record is that while they had down years they also have had really good seasons and been ranked high many times which you can't say about Kent State and Western Kentucky. You can play those two every year for the next 50 and you'l never play a team any better than they are right now. UCLA (and I hate you for making me defend them) has talent , a QB that will be drafted higher than any Bama QB has been in the last 20 years and had plenty of players drafted , and Oregon sucked dog balls last year but you play them year after year they can be good , they were in 2 NC games in the last five seasons. When has Kent State and Western Kentucky played in a New years bowl or a NC ( I will wait for that answer)? So your pathetic attempt to make people believe that all of the SEC is Bama doesn't work.
 

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Truthfully I don't give a crap about bama. My comments were geared toward those disingenuous claims that playing 8 conference games is no different then playing 9. To that I call BS.
Since I didnt make that claim, good luck with arguing your case with whoever did.
 

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LOL. Whats funny is how attached you are to a team you've never seen play. I don't hate Alabama. They are a great team. It's not smoke and mirrors, they get the top recruiting class every year. I actually paid money to fly to texas , spend my hard earned money for four days and buy tickets and watch USC and Bama play. I didn't think USC would win but I still went which is more than yo can say.
What you're butthurt ass doesn't get is Alabama is in the SEC which had one division so bad if not for those cupcakes you say you don't need would have had all but maybe one team bowl ineligible. What you also don't get when you post UCLAs record and Arizonas record and Oregons record is that while they had down years they also have had really good seasons and been ranked high many times which you can't say about Kent State and Western Kentucky. You can play those two every year for the next 50 and you'l never play a team any better than they are right now. UCLA (and I hate you for making me defend them) has talent , a QB that will be drafted higher than any Bama QB has been in the last 20 years and had plenty of players drafted , and Oregon sucked dog balls last year but you play them year after year they can be good , they were in 2 NC games in the last five seasons. When has Kent State and Western Kentucky played in a New years bowl or a NC ( I will wait for that answer)? So your pathetic attempt to make people believe that all of the SEC is Bama doesn't work.

BCF Toys - 2016 FEI Ratings

Pac12 teams:

#106 Arizona 2-9
#90 Arizona State 4-7
#83 Oregon 3-8
#74 Oregon State 3-8
#72 California 5-7
#60 UCLA 4-8

Also because you think it's such a big deal:

#42 Notre Dame 4-8

Alabama G5 Opponents:

#16 Western Kentucky 10-3
#99 Kent St 2-8

Yeah, you'll run from things that show real rankings and make excuses for it. You like terms like "P5" and "G5" because it lets you pretend that those teams are better than they really are. And yet, you sit here and claim that I'm somehow pumping up the SEC because the stats had Alabama as #3 SoS.

Down years, but no mention of Colorado?

How many have won a NC? The same amount of Pac12 teams that have in recent history: 0.

Meanwhile, Alabama plays multiple teams that have won a NC in recent history every year in conference since you think that's important.

And for the record - I hope the SEC sucks even more this year than they did last year. I hope the SEC becomes even more easy than the Pac12 and Big12 is right now. Because it's already shown in the playoff era that record is more important than schedule strength, so being in a tough conference has gone from being a benefit to being a burden.
 

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What does this have to do with the price of Woks in China? Please elaborate how this pertains to anything.

It's outside the norm. Most NFL ready players go. And sure the law siding with Alabama players sure helped. They came back but for nothing just to lose to Clemson. All im saying is that stacked the deck for Alabama. It's basically like looking at this current team upcoming. I'm not so sure they hang another 52 points but since Alabama doesn't do non-conference road games we will never know.
 

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I notice you didn't mention TCU...

Care to enlighten us with what the rest of the PAC-12 is scheduling this year.

Or how about just your division champions...Colorado St, Northern Colorado, Texas St or Rutgers, Montana and Fresno St, LOL.

But I forgot that brutal 9 game conference schedule...too bad the bottom half of the pac only won 13 conference games between them last year....almost literally between them. The bottom 6 PAC teams won 13 conference games last year...11 of those came in wins versus one of the other shitty 6 PAC teams. That says a lot for the competitive grind of the league...or a little in this case.

Tell us again about how playing an 8 game schedule overly inflates the rankings of our teams. LOL, the bottom half of the PAC literally won 2 games from the top 6 last year, and you guys want to brag about scheduling more conference games.

Such defending of little brother Arkansas. Tcu doesn't give the right to schedule to crap games. Western Michigan would blow out both of those teams. Sure Alabama had a good year and beat the pacs best last year. Let's not act like that's a card to say any one else in sec had a prayer in doing the same.
 

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It's outside the norm. Most NFL ready players go. And sure the law siding with Alabama players sure helped. They came back but for nothing just to lose to Clemson. All im saying is that stacked the deck for Alabama. It's basically like looking at this current team upcoming. I'm not so sure they hang another 52 points but since Alabama doesn't do non-conference road games we will never know.
Ok, i understand now.

Bama does home and home, just rarely. Last I think was Penn State.

This team has questions, like many do, but this one has a potential to be really great also. Depends on how the new players develop. I did like our new receiver, he reminds me of Amari Cooper in his prime. Kids got some skills.
 

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I wish they would include every game. If it counts as a win or loss, then it should count towards SOS.

It does count towards SoS...as being worth nothing.

If they "counted" in the way you are talking, then they would be worth more than they currently are.

So do you mean to say teams should recieve more for playing FCS teams than they do? Because you are.
 

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Since I didnt make that claim, good luck with arguing your case with whoever did.

You indirectly did by touting bama beating two PAC teams and bringing up the 9 game conference schedule. But whatever you want to say to tell yourself bo.
 

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BCF Toys - 2016 FEI Ratings

Pac12 teams:

#106 Arizona 2-9
#90 Arizona State 4-7
#83 Oregon 3-8
#74 Oregon State 3-8
#72 California 5-7
#60 UCLA 4-8

Also because you think it's such a big deal:

#42 Notre Dame 4-8

Alabama G5 Opponents:

#16 Western Kentucky 10-3
#99 Kent St 2-8

Yeah, you'll run from things that show real rankings and make excuses for it. You like terms like "P5" and "G5" because it lets you pretend that those teams are better than they really are. And yet, you sit here and claim that I'm somehow pumping up the SEC because the stats had Alabama as #3 SoS.

Down years, but no mention of Colorado?

How many have won a NC? The same amount of Pac12 teams that have in recent history: 0.

Meanwhile, Alabama plays multiple teams that have won a NC in recent history every year in conference since you think that's important.

And for the record - I hope the SEC sucks even more this year than they did last year. I hope the SEC becomes even more easy than the Pac12 and Big12 is right now. Because it's already shown in the playoff era that record is more important than schedule strength, so being in a tough conference has gone from being a benefit to being a burden.

I don't use those terms . I say playing a team whos in your conference less than you play a team like Chattanooga in a ten year span is pussy scheduling.
 

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It's kind of funny how fans of other teams have come to hate Alabama worse than Auburn fans.
I like the trend and endorse it.
 

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If a team adds FSU as their non conference game, they can add a Mercer.
 

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What is a "Mercer" ?

It's a lot like Kansas, only they don't win.

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L Florida State in Atlanta
W Fresno State
W Colorado State
W @Vanderbilt
W Ole Miss
W @ Texas A&M
W Arkansas
W Tennessee
Bye :wave:
L LSU
W @ Miss State
W Mercer
L @ Auburn


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Florida State was a toss up and the flip came up FSU.
LSU has the defense to stop Alabama and can find some QB play.
Auburn will beat Bama with that advance forward pass thingy.


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