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Series Thread: NBA Finals: Warriors vs Cavaliers

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Durant didn't have to because he had Ibaka and then Adams....

Freak had a chronically broken Henson, Parker and a underwhelming Monroe.

He has to do everything or they get blown out.

If I was building a team for the future, not the present, I'd take Kawhi and then Freak.

To win next Season?

Lebron, Kawhi, Durant.

Kawhi is still young enough, skilled enough to be at the top of both lists for some.

Freak.....not yet. But, soon.....




Lebron, Kawhi, Durant, Tristan.


FIFY.
 

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The freak averaged more rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks this season at the age of 21-22 years old than KD has ever averaged despite being on a depleted team that lost their second and third best player for the season. He literally carried this team into the playoffs and did pretty well in the postseason also despite basically being a one man show.

I grew up a Sonics fan and followed KD after he moved away. I thought he was great but this kid isn't called a freak for nothing. He's bigger, stronger, faster and more skilled in every area of the game except shooting the three. His FG% was nearly identical despite being a one man show and KD having three other all stars to take pressure off him. Giannis is basically a 7 ft version of Russel Westbrook but more efficient.

Again, the only thing KD has over the 22 year old Giannis is a three point shot but Giannis is better at everything else and a vastly superior defender according to the numbers and the eye test. KD is suspect in one on one defense while Giannis can lock down his man. Also he can play all 5 positions which KD can't and normally just plays the 4 or 3.

As for the 3 pt shot Giannis can't be in a better situation than with Jason Kidd on his team as the coach. Kidd was at one point considered big for his position and over time he became a great three point shooter despite being a terrible 3 pt shooter when he started. I have no doubts that the Freak can and will become a 40%+ shooter from three point range but it will take time. When he shot 35% from three point land his first season that showed me he has the ability to get there but will have some work to do. Once he gets that shot down he will be the best player in the league and most likely be averaging a triple double while being on the all NBA defensive team as well. By the age of 25-26 he will be the best and even if the bucks don't get him help they will still be a legitimate threat in the East with him as the leader.

Game Set Match

Greek Freak>>>>>>>>KD and it's not even close. The only reason this is even up for debate is people are all excited about the championship and now KD is supposed to be the best but that's far from the truth.

This is not even close to being correct.

Sub Giannis for KD and the Warriors are not nearly as good. Also, the Bucks would have been better. He is not just a better 3 point shooter. He is a far superior scorer. Their FG % is comparable despite the fact that most of Giannis' shots come at the rim. KD scores from everywhere, and that puts tons of pressure on the D and opens the game up for teammates. Giannis can't do that, yet. KD has also blossomed into a pretty good defender. He is now mentioned among the best 2 way players in the game.

There is a reason the Bucks couldn't score against the Raptors. KD would have completely opened up their offense.

Now, if you are saying you take Giannis over KD on rebuilding team, then sure, I agree. But to win now? It literally isn't even a debate. If you posted a poll, The only people to vote for Giannis would be Thunder fans who are still pissed, and of course you.
 

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Dubs in 5 came true. I said they'd leave Cleveland at 3 - 1 and close it at home.
You are talking out your duplicitous ass.

Cavs win game 5, game 6 ....blah, blah, blah.

Lebron is a choker...blah, blah, blah.

Just own your shit already.

You were wrong.
 

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You are talking out your duplicitous ass.

Cavs win game 5, game 6 ....blah, blah, blah.

Lebron is a choker...blah, blah, blah.

Just own your shit already.

You were wrong.

This.
 

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You are talking out your duplicitous ass.

Cavs win game 5, game 6 ....blah, blah, blah.

Lebron is a choker...blah, blah, blah.

Just own your shit already.

You were wrong.
Dubs in 5, baby and I'm sticking to it. James is a choker
 

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Great Dayne showing his ass in the NBA like he does in the NFL's.
 

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It might be a silly argument, but do you think James would rather have 5 rings vs 3 rings and all the other awards that he's earned?
My guess is 5 rings.

Uh, sure, and Kobe would rather have 10 rings. Not sure what you are saying here
 

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Uh, sure, and Kobe would rather have 10 rings. Not sure what you are saying here


Then you would have to compare Kobe to a lessor player with 10 rings if that existed.
I personally think James >>>Kobe because of his overall resume, but I believe James would rather have Kobes 5 rings and lessor resume if given the choice and assuming he doesn't win any more.
 

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IRving 0-6 in the 4th last night.

Didn't someone tell us that there was no player more clutch??

Didn't that same person tell us KD couldn't handle the moment??
 

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It might be a silly argument, but do you think James would rather have 5 rings vs 3 rings and all the other awards that he's earned?
My guess is 5 rings.
Different sport..

But, before the Broncos win, would you have rather had Eli's career or Peyton's?

Can't speak for Lebron.

But, he has already surpassed Kobe without the 5 rings.

He's only looking up at Jordan and KAJ.
 

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Then you would have to compare Kobe to a lessor player with 10 rings if that existed.
I personally think James >>>Kobe because of his overall resume, but I believe James would rather have Kobes 5 rings and lessor resume if given the choice and assuming he doesn't win any more.
Might be right...
 
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