Why drafting DBs early changes nothing

[Gulf of Brazil]

Is there another TE we should be scoping out? Can never have enough depth there!

I was thinking 1st rd WR or RB. our depth is pretty solid there for now. let me get back to you on that TE issue tho..... CB's...oooops.... CB (as in singular) might be 3rd or 5th rd, not sure... let me give ole Mayhew a jingle on the HOT-Line

 

[Naughtymax]

Thank you captain obvious. No shit that round 1 draft picks in general have a higher rate of probability of being good. I already stated that. The issue is that the probability is still incredibly small and that there are just as many players outside of round 1 as inside that are top CBs.

I am comparing round 1 to ALL OTHER ROUNDS. You are trying to spread out the draft picks into each individual round which was never the topic nor was anyone arguing that. What you stated is nothing but a simpletons approach.

Not so sure what is so difficult about that.

Obviously, that you're not bright enough to understand that far fewer than half of good NFL players are first-rounders, but among cornerbacks the percentage is high. Therefore, your position that there is no need to draft early is simply stupid.

 

[gandydancer]

Dumbest post ever. .

You are aware my dumb ass posts here, right?

 

[Old Lion]

Obviously, that you're not bright enough to understand that far fewer than half of good NFL players are first-rounders, but among cornerbacks the percentage is high. Therefore, your position that there is no need to draft early is simply stupid.

Wrong. CBs fall in the middle. But keep spewing your opinion as if it is fact.

Analyzing the NFL Draft: The Safest Positions to Target in the First Round | The Harvard Sports Analysis Collective

NFL Draft: First-round disappointment more likely than success | NFL | Sporting News

Actually, What I am stating actually holds true for all positions in the first round. Much less than half of first rounders end up being top performers.

 

[gandydancer]

So Ebron was a safe pick with the least amount of risk.... so says the opinion of some nerd from Harvard. hmmm

 

[Naughtymax]

Wrong. CBs fall in the middle. But keep spewing your opinion as if it is fact.

Analyzing the NFL Draft: The Safest Positions to Target in the First Round | The Harvard Sports Analysis Collective

NFL Draft: First-round disappointment more likely than success | NFL | Sporting News

Actually, What I am stating actually holds true for all positions in the first round. Much less than half of first rounders end up being top performers.

Now you're trying to actually research the idiocy you first posted and change the subject. When half of top performers are first rounders, the position lends itself to high picks. QB, DE would be the other two. 'safe' has nothing to do with it and is a strawman attempt to backtrack.

Just own it and move on.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

If a CB has a true 1st round grade in terms of size, speed, ability like a Patrick Petterson (not just the best of the class) you take him in the 1st round. But, understand the vast majority of CBs in CFB only face an NFL starting caliber WR, maybe 2 or 3 times in a season if that much...so the learning curve is steeper making the risk is greater.

ATL took Trufant last year in the 1st round, and came back in the 2nd and took Alford...both made plays as rookies and got brunt...they're developing into a strong tandem.

It's also on of the positions that can be coached up if the player has the raw ability...1st round CBs is dicey.

 

[tpaulus_2]

The Falcons hit the jackpot in Trufant. He was pretty much immediately a top 5 CB, which is unheard of as a rookie.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

ATL took Trufant last year in the 1st round, and came back in the 2nd and took Alford...both made plays as rookies and got brunt...they're developing into a strong tandem.

So wait a minute. A team invested a 1st AND a 2nd round pick on the CB position in the same draft? Interesting concept to use your top picks to fill gaping holes on your defense.

Detroit one upped Atlanta though -- we drafted THREE CB's in the same draft. Granted it was 3 years ago and it was in the 3rd, 5th and 6th rounds, but still. Once Bullet Bill Bentley, Chris Greenwood and Jonte Green develop -- there is no stopping the Lions though. They just need another 2 or 3 years of seasoning and our secondary will look like the Seahawks

 

[tpaulus_2]

So wait a minute. A team invested a 1st AND a 2nd round pick on the CB position in the same draft? Interesting concept to use your top picks to fill gaping holes on your defense.

Detroit one upped Atlanta though -- we drafted THREE CB's in the same draft. Granted it was 3 years ago and it was in the 3rd, 5th and 6th rounds, but still. Once Bullet Bill Bentley, Chris Greenwood and Jonte Green develop -- there is no stopping the Lions though. They just need another 2 or 3 years of seasoning and our secondary will look like the Seahawks

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

wait a minute




I'm temporarily here in lieu of LPinSLC just in case

 

[Old Lion]

Now you're trying to actually research the idiocy you first posted and change the subject. When half of top performers are first rounders, the position lends itself to high picks. QB, DE would be the other two. 'safe' has nothing to do with it and is a strawman attempt to backtrack.

Just own it and move on.

No, its not a strawman at all and you are the one that changed the subject. The articles (first one more than the second) explain exactly what I was trying to depict. You decided in your own mind I was making a different point. Maybe I did not articulate it well enough for you to understand what I was trying to get across.

 

[Naughtymax]

No, its not a strawman at all and you are the one that changed the subject. The articles (first one more than the second) explain exactly what I was trying to depict. You decided in your own mind I was making a different point. Maybe I did not articulate it well enough for you to understand what I was trying to get across.

The very title of the thread really doesn't lend itself to ambiguity.

You're not the first person to be unable to admit a mistake and you won't be the last.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Why the violin TP? You are so negative. Obviously, Green and Greenwood just need a little more time to develop.

 

[gandydancer]

Why the violin TP? .

He likes classical music