Who has the advantage Legend Hitters vs Legend Pitchers

[Ritzarmy]

Please vote below

 

[broncosmitty]

Can I wait to see who falls to me in round two?

 

[Ritzarmy]

Can I wait to see who falls to me in round two?

No Colon wont be available.

 

[Nosferatu]

Kind of a vague question.

 

[Ritzarmy]

Kind of a vague question.

Then add to it

 

[wlk3]

I've come around... If a great hitter see's the best pitcher more than once he will get his hits... IMO

 

[Nosferatu]

Lou Gehrig owned Lefty Grove

 

[blstoker]

Lou Gehrig owned Lefty Grove

Well, in Grove's defense - Gehrig was barely better than his career averages when facing Grove.....though the data is incomplete (baseball-reference only keeps records back to 1930).

 

[Nosferatu]

Well, in Grove's defense - Gehrig was barely better than his career averages when facing Grove.....though the data is incomplete (baseball-reference only keeps records back to 1930).

Barely better than his hall of fame career averages? Pipp, you're in for Gehrig!

 

[MilkSpiller22]

there is a reason for the evolution of the bullpen... it is for this reason... so if the question is just about SP vs a whole lineup then of course it is lineup... but an elite BP + an elite rotation should be able to hold down an elite lineup to 4 runs or less...

 

[Nosferatu]

there is a reason for the evolution of the bullpen... it is for this reason... so if the question is just about SP vs a whole lineup then of course it is lineup... but an elite BP + an elite rotation should be able to hold down an elite lineup to 4 runs or less...

If you were right i'd agree with you.

 

[blstoker]

Barely better than his hall of fame career averages? Pipp, you're in for Gehrig!

Yeah, but that's just one example. Lefty had some great and not so great performances against HoF batters (at least 90 PA, undrafted not named, wouldn't want to be accused of dropping names!!! ):

Lou Gehrig - .350/.431/.683/1.114
Babe Ruth - .275/.327.529/.857
HoFer - .312/.373/.398/.770
HoFer - .282/.318/.403/.721
HoFer - 283/.311/.407/.718
HoFer - .264/.293/.414/.707
HoFer - 222/.315/.358/.673
HoFer - .208/.232/.302/.534
HoFer - .180/.232/.247/.479

It doesn't definitively state that great batter beat great pitchers just because of the successes, or lack thereof, of one or two players.

 

[Nosferatu]

Yeah, but that's just one example. Lefty had some great and not so great performances against HoF batters (at least 90 PA, undrafted not named, wouldn't want to be accused of dropping names!!! ):

Lou Gehrig - .350/.431/.683/1.114
Babe Ruth - .275/.327.529/.857
HoFer - .312/.373/.398/.770
HoFer - .282/.318/.403/.721
HoFer - 283/.311/.407/.718
HoFer - .264/.293/.414/.707
HoFer - 222/.315/.358/.673
HoFer - .208/.232/.302/.534
HoFer - .180/.232/.247/.479

It doesn't definitively state that great batter beat great pitchers just because of the successes, or lack thereof, of one or two players.

Impressive work as always Stoke but the thing is though he might have some good numbers against certain HOFers there is a difference when you have to face Babe Ruth and then Lou Gehrig and then Willie Mays than there is when facing Babe Ruth then Joe Nobody then Steve Nobody. Point being, when you don't have to face nine HOFers in a row it's easier to be careful against the ones you do face.