Who are the five most overrated QB's/Teams in the NFL?

[JDM]

I know right?

The Hawks were on a stretch beating teams in record fashion but the ONLY reason they whooped on the the niners was because they beat the almighty Pats the week before. Harbaugh has beaten better teams than the Pats during his time with the niners but didn't go on to get stomped the next week.

The niners haven't played 90 plays of defense against other teams. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MY TEAM. My team was beaten by both teams. It's football. Losses come.

90 plays of defense is almost 1 and a half times the 62 plays they averaged the entire season. Teams are already tired after games where they play a normal amount of snaps at that point in the season. If you really don't think that a) that game hinged on a handful of key plays b) 1 and a half times as many snaps played in a normal game tires you out, I don't know what to tell you. Attacking someone for a simple observation is silly.

 

[#1BostonFan]

1. Redskins
2. 49ers
3. Bengals
4. Steelers
5. Patriots

Go away troll.

 

[SonnyCID]

The niners haven't played 90 plays of defense against other teams. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MY TEAM. My team was beaten by both teams. It's football. Losses come.

90 plays of defense is almost 1 and a half times the 62 plays they averaged the entire season. Teams are already tired after games where they play a normal amount of snaps at that point in the season. If you really don't think that a) that game hinged on a handful of key plays b) 1 and a half times as many snaps played in a normal game tires you out, I don't know what to tell you. Attacking someone for a simple observation is silly.

Sounds like the niners lack depth then. And maybe you're right...... Maybe any team could have beaten the niners that night. But not every team can lay a whooping like that on any team in the NFL, let alone 3 weeks in a row, that takes a quality team.

 

[JDM]

I'm not saying anyone could have beaten them. I'm not saying your team sucks. I am saying that is a very close, very intense division rivalry and all it takes is one crucial factor, like a defense that's still a little too sore, to split the game wide open. That doesn't even mean you wouldn't have beat them at home. It means don't be too cocky about the blowout when it's one game and there may be something else that played a role in it breaking open like it did.

 

[SonnyCID]

They also signed Cliff Avril, and he's terrible at everything other than being fast. I've been amazed at how many people actually think the Sqwuacks are good. I'm just starting realize they overrated. I'd always thought of them more as a lightning in a bottle situation, not a group a large number of people outside of Seattle would think of as legitimate.

If they were winning in flukey ways, or beating on weak teams then bending over for quality opponents (like your Lions the year before) then I would agree that it was lightning in a bottle. But they were doing what good teams do, pounding the rock, playing excellent defense and getting very efficient play from the QB.

 

[Brees#1]

I know right?

The Hawks were on a stretch beating teams in record fashion at the time but the ONLY reason they whooped on the the niners was because they beat the almighty Pats the week before. Harbaugh has beaten better teams than the Pats during his time with the niners but didn't go on to get stomped the next week.

Back to back road trips against playoff teams in that kind of weather especially does have an effect sorry. Houston had a tough time in Detroit, then had rest for titans before playing the pats on MNF the next week. This happens quite a bit. As for SF not getting stomped after big wins, if at home you might have a point. But on the road no...SF in 11 did not play big teams in bengals and eagles. The eagles were overrated. Also, they choked the game away. So SF after their win in Cincinatti didnt show up for the eagles game and had 1 qtr of hard work to show for it, then that gave them extra rest for the bucs game at home. The Lions came right before a bye week. They lost at ravens. And they followed up a big Seattle win with a cupcake matchup against the rams who were ready for the season to end. Last year, they had lions at home after going to GB but something tells me GB was looking ahead to Chicago four days later. Their big win at saints was followed by a low scoring loss in OT at rams. So no Harbaugh's niners has not followed up a big road win with another win against a serious opponent. At home home blowouts of teams like bucs, giants were followed up by close road win at lions and another home game against a cards team who were not a good road team upon their late turnaround. The steelers were on the west coast and it was a sloppy game. Seattle was not even really good. They got the right matchups at the right time(eagles short week, rams MNF, at bears with injuries to star players). The big wins SF had last year were all on the road.

 

[Shenanihanigans]

I think that Russel Wilson is only going to get better. We'll see about the hawks.

RG-3 Is highly overated. He was a rookie running QB and now he has taken a tough injury. I think the skins will use him up and kick him to the curb. Sad thing is, he could have been special, if given time.

I think your analysis of what might be happening in DC is the dumbest fucking piece of trash I've read in a long, long time. That's what I think.

Quick question, chowdah, who had a better completion percentage FROM THE POCKET: Tom whiny, or RG3?

Why don't you look it up and get back to me?

RG3 is twice the qb Russell Wilson is, and is destined for greatness. If healthy, the redskins have to be the absolute favorite to win the NFC BEast, and it would be hard to think of a defense that could match up with whom the redskins could potentially trot out on offense.

We'll see...

 

[JDM]

RG3 is going to be great, but comparing him to Brady this early is silly. Give him a couple years and I believe he will rival Brady as a QB, and, given that Shanahan is gone and they surround him with talent, in success as well.

But he's not there yet.

 

[Southieinnc]

I think your analysis of what might be happening in DC is the dumbest fucking piece of trash I've read in a long, long time. That's what I think.

Quick question, chowdah, who had a better completion percentage FROM THE POCKET: Tom whiny, or RG3?

Why don't you look it up and get back to me?

RG3 is twice the qb Russell Wilson is, and is destined for greatness. If healthy, the redskins have to be the absolute favorite to win the NFC BEast, and it would be hard to think of a defense that could match up with whom the redskins could potentially trot out on offense.

We'll see...

1) It was not an analysis, it is an opinion.

2) I don't have an opinion on who wins the AFC East

3) RG-3 CAN be a great QB but I like Russell Wilson.

Is this a football board or is this a "get all defensive and piss in your wheaties board?"
If what I said was offensive, just wait til the season starts!

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Joe "99¢ cheeseburger" Flacco = Most overrated QB of this century

Then there's Freeman, Wilson, and Dalton. All "proven" winners, yet still can't win a game without the team saving their asses.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I'll also add Schaub to that list to complete my 5. I like Schaub, but his inconsistent play down the stretch really hurts his value. Maybe he'll prove us wrong next season!

 

[SonnyCID]

Joe "99¢ cheeseburger" Flacco = Most overrated QB of this century

Then there's Freeman, Wilson, and Dalton. All "proven" winners, yet still can't win a game without the team saving their asses.

Wilson saved a few games got his team too.

 

[cdumler7]

I think your analysis of what might be happening in DC is the dumbest fucking piece of trash I've read in a long, long time. That's what I think.

Quick question, chowdah, who had a better completion percentage FROM THE POCKET: Tom whiny, or RG3?

Why don't you look it up and get back to me?

RG3 is twice the qb Russell Wilson is, and is destined for greatness. If healthy, the redskins have to be the absolute favorite to win the NFC BEast, and it would be hard to think of a defense that could match up with whom the redskins could potentially trot out on offense.

We'll see...

RG3 is a special player but I think there are plenty of defenses that could handle what the Redskins will trot out on offense. The WR's they have scare no one. Fred Davis is a decent TE but I wouldn't put him anywhere near top 5 at the position. The OL ranked right around 20th in pass protection last year and nobody new is starting so not like they got better. RG3 nobody quite knows how he will return from his injury but I expect him to be pretty good. Alfred Morris is a decent running back but Shannahan has proven to take mediocre backs and make them look good. Not sure I would consider him a special running back. My guess is there are at least 10 defenses in the NFL that would line up well to take on the Redskins and contain that offense.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Wilson saved a few games got his team too.

Don't include the game the referees saved you. Wilson has talent, but I'm not convinced he's a franchise QB. IMO, Seattle will look for, if not, have a new QB in 2 seasons.

 

[Money]

Joe "99¢ cheeseburger" Flacco = Most overrated QB of this century

Then there's Freeman, Wilson, and Dalton. All "proven" winners, yet still can't win a game without the team saving their asses.

"Joe Flacco will never win a Super Bowl in this lifetime" - LaMarr Woodley

 

[RonBorges]

Cam newton
Drew Brees
Jay cutler
Russell Wilson
Eli Manning

Good list, but why put Eli Manning on there. The guy won two Superbowls recently.

I would replace Eli with Peyton.

 

[JDM]

Good list, but why put Eli Manning on there. The guy won two Superbowls recently.

I would replace Eli with Peyton.

Because people act like he's comparable to his brother and I think that's batshit crazy.

 

[NinerSickness]

I've gotta disagree with the Eli statement too. That dude goes on tears like he's got a WR-seeking missile he's throwing. There was nobody I wanted the 49ers to face less than Eli in the 2011 playoffs.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I've gotta disagree with the Eli statement too. That dude goes on tears like he's got a WR-seeking missile he's throwing. There was nobody I wanted the 49ers to face less than Eli in the 2011 playoffs.

I think most people call him overrated because he can be fairly inconsistent. But when he's on fire, he's hard to touch. Like any great QB!

 

[NinerSickness]

I think most people call him overrated because he can be fairly inconsistent. But when he's on fire, he's hard to touch. Like any great QB!

He hasn't been extremely consistent, but I don't think the qualifier "like any great QB" is fair because I think the stretches of games Eli has put together in the post-season is comparable to any QB in the NFL. In fact, one could argue Eli has had a better career than Peyton has this far in to their respective careers.

Peyton has absolutely choked in the playoffs a lot of times. He had the best roster in the NFL in 2005 IMO, and he was overthrowing guys by a good 5-10 yards consistently against the Steelers in playoffs. He had the game in the bag against the Saints, and he blew it on that pick-6. The only time he didn't "choke" he lost a choking contest to Rex Grossman (keep in mind, I have Peyton as a top-5 QB of all time). Also, Peyton has had EXTREMELY good receivers in his career; MUCH better than Eli has had. Peyton's 2004 receiving corps is one of the best of all time IMO (Harrison, Wayne, Clark).

Also, I don't see how anyone can say Tom Brady is a better post-season QB than Eli is. He won his 3 SBs when the team was video-taping defenses, and he still only beat 'em by last-second field goals (if only Joe Montana had Adam Vinatieri instead of Mike Cofer!). When they went head to head (no video tape) Eli came out on top both times.

Eli is extremely under-appreciated IMO. People still call him overrated when he's accomplished a hell of a lot. He & Ben Roethlisberger (whom I can't stand) get no love in the media compared to what they produce. I think the most underrated QBs in the NFL are:

Eli, Roethlisberger, Cutler, Rivers (who was arguably the best QB in the NFL over a 5-year stretch) and Flacco.

The most overrated QBs in the NFL IMO are: Michael Vick and Matt Ryan (who's had one of the best receiving corps in the history of the league). I have zero faith in those guys, and I don't think they'll ever win a Super Bowl.