Who are the five most overrated QB's/Teams in the NFL?

[fearthepelicans]

Brees is actually getting mentioned in here? Completely ludicrous.

 

[JDM]

Don't pretend he's elite and we won't tell you he's overrated.

 

[fearthepelicans]

His career achievements indicate he clearly is elite.

 

[NinerSickness]

This dude has a new list of readymade excuses for Cutler every offseason, followed by a list of the reasons why this year it's different. A top running back was needed (Forte), a top 5 receiver (Marshall), a new OC (Cutler gets a new one fired practically every year), etc., until there presumably wouldn't be anything left. However, there is, as you can see.

Hilarious hearing from Bears fans that Rodgers couldn't succeed on the Bears any moreso than Cutler when Rodgers has had a worse o-line---

WOOOAAAHHH there! Did you just say Rodgers had a worse OL than the Bears version of Cutler over their careers?

Nobody except maybe the Cardinals' QBs of last year can claim they had anywhere near as bad an OL as Cutler has.

I think both Cutler & Lovie Smith were screwed by horrible drafting in the OL department. If Cutler had Belichick drafting for him (a guy who knows O-Linemen), he'd be considered one of the better QBs in the league IMO.

I agree that Cutler is the most underrated QB in the NFL (and the most overrated is Matty - Romo - Ice IMO). If the 49ers didn't have Kaepernick already, I would kill to get Cutler in a 49ers uniform. Cutler would absolutely ball in SF (because the 49ers have the best OL in football). Cutler takes his drop, and by the time he plants his back foot a defender is like 2 feet away from him on a regular basis. I'd even feel bad for the guy if he weren't a millionaire.

 

[JDM]

You were better off keeping Alex smith than you would have been with cutler as QB. Your defense is good enough that consistent is far more useful to you than inconsistent and mistake prone.

 

[NinerSickness]

You were better off keeping Alex smith than you would have been with cutler as QB. Your defense is good enough that consistent is far more useful to you than inconsistent and mistake prone.

The fact that you say that shows to me that you didn't watch Alex Smith all that much. Alex Smith was easy to defend because of his weak arm. Alex's kryptonite is a safety in the box and / or someone blitzing because he had no velocity on his throws, and DBs could jump on them if they were past 10 yards.

Cuter would have kept defenses honest like Kaepernick does. They wouldn't have been able to cheat towards the line of scrimmage against him.

Alex looked like a good QB because the Niners had the best OL in the NFL, the best TE in the NFL (or at least top 3), one of the couple of best running games in the NFL and a pretty good WR corps (not great, but Crabtree was a legitimate threat to pick up 1st downs). He also could run the ball pretty well himself. But good defenses knew how to stop him.

 

[JDM]

He made consistent decisions. Cutler makes consistently awful decisions. You would be several games worse with cutler at QB. Using the tools you have is more valuable than wasting better ones.

 

[NinerSickness]

He made consistent decisions. Cutler makes consistently awful decisions. You would be several games worse with cutler at QB. Using the tools you have is more valuable than wasting better ones.

That's because Alex had all the time he needed to scan the field & make those decisions, and Cutler had to make decisions the instant he plants his foot. And since he has to get rid of the ball so fast, the decision is usually, "Do I take a sack, throw it away or throw into coverage?"

 

[DaBearsShowPride]

The facts with Cutler are.....He has been in his 4th offensive system in 5 years with the Bears, never had a HC who really worked with him, never had any productive offensive coaches, never had a legit starting offensive line and worked in some of the worst offensive systems in the NFL. If the organization cant help out the Quarterback of course he is going to look overrated on the field. Cutler is just as smart and has as much talent as these top notch QB's in the league. Brady has had some of the best offensive coaches ever, been in the same system for plenty of years and has offensive lineman to block for him. Rodgers was under Favre for a few years and learned from him, has a great offensive system and plenty of weapons. This is the first year where Cutler could really show off the talent he has and if he gets his extension within the next few years he will look even more impressive.

 

[JDM]

Smith changed offensive systems essentially every season of his career, and minimal pass blocking help as well. I'm not sure how you think smith had a significantly better scenario.

 

[David_son]

Schuab/ Texans.... I dont think he is Elite, Has a great defense RB WR and Line and can only beat the Bengals in the playoffs.

Seahawks- I dont think Wilson is overrated but I think the defense will suffer with the lose of their DC becoming a head coach and of course I still dont have faith Carroll will get the most out of his players over the long haul.


I would say Cowboys but frankly everyone knows Romo and Garrett are terrible they cant be overrated.

 

[NinerSickness]

Smith changed offensive systems essentially every season of his career, and minimal pass blocking help as well. I'm not sure how you think smith had a significantly better scenario.

He didn't until 2011. At that point, the OL was the best unit in the NFL, and the running game was at least top 3. He had Vernon & Crabby as well, so it's not like he didn't have anyone to whom to throw.

We're comparing the best OL in the NFL to the worst OL in the NFL. There really is no comparison. Cutler has been screwed from the get-go the last few years.

 

[JDM]

The best run blocking line in the NFL, maybe, but not the best in general. Also, at a minimum, Kansas City and Philly have been worse than Chicago in the line department, and there are several others I would have preferred as well.

Smith has always made decent decisions and cutler has always made bad ones and worse ones.

 

[NinerSickness]

The best run blocking line in the NFL, maybe, but not the best in general. Also, at a minimum, Kansas City and Philly have been worse than Chicago in the line department, and there are several others I would have preferred as well.

Smith has always made decent decisions and cutler has always made bad ones and worse ones.

Name a better overall OL than the 49ers' OL. You can't. Just because they kick ass in run-blocking doesn't mean they don't give QBs a bunch of time to throw the ball as well. You're thinking of the 2006 version of the 49ers. THEY were amazing run-blockers, but their pass-protection was terrible. Alex made "good" decisions the last couple of years because he had good options. However, good defenses shut him down because of his glaring weaknesses.

KC & Philly haven't had anywhere near as bad OLs as the Bears have the last few years. It's not even close. The only OL who comes close has been the Cardinals'.

Some QBs have good situations, and some have bad ones. But a few QBs have had GREAT situations. Over the last few years, the best QB situation in the NFL has easily been the Falcons. I'd say the 49ers were #2 on that list. The Packers (on and off), Texans, & Patriots have all had great QB situations too, but not as great & consistent personnel-wise like the Falcons & 49ers have (The Cowboys, Lions, Bengals & Steelers have been good too, but all of them had big OL problems / injuries).

The Bears have had one of the worst QB situations in the NFL over the last few years (maybe THE worst). Especially in the coaching department (offensively). At least the Cardinals had Fitz this whole time.

 

[DaBearsShowPride]

The best run blocking line in the NFL, maybe, but not the best in general. Also, at a minimum, Kansas City and Philly have been worse than Chicago in the line department, and there are several others I would have preferred as well.

Smith has always made decent decisions and cutler has always made bad ones and worse ones.

Every quarterback makes mistakes and 70% or higher of Cutlers mistakes have come because of the pressure from the defense or horrible route running. Yes he has made some god awful throws when he has had all the time in the world but the majority of his turnovers come because of the things I listed in the first sentence. And dont argue this because I have watched every single down Cutler has played compared to you.

 

[NinerSickness]

Every quarterback makes mistakes and 70% or higher of Cutlers mistakes have come because of the pressure from the defense or horrible route running. Yes he has made some god awful throws when he has had all the time in the world but the majority of his turnovers come because of the things I listed in the first sentence. And dont argue this because I have watched every single down Cutler has played compared to you.

I'm in total agreement with you on this, and I don't have a dog in this fight because I'm not a Bears fan nor a Bears hater. I've just seen him play, and when he has time to throw the ball the guy picks apart defenses very well IMO. But I don't remember the last time I've seen a QB as harassed as Cutler. It's almost like when David Carr was in Houston it's so bad. I don't think it would have mattered if the any Hall of Fame caliber QB was in Chicago the last few years; they would have looked average at best IMO.

 

[DaBearsShowPride]

I'm in total agreement with you on this, and I don't have a dog in this fight because I'm not a Bears fan nor a Bears hater. I've just seen him play, and when he has time to throw the ball the guy picks apart defenses very well IMO. But I don't remember the last time I've seen a QB as harassed as Cutler. It's almost like when David Carr was in Houston it's so bad. I don't think it would have mattered if the any Hall of Fame caliber QB was in Chicago the last few years; they would have looked average at best IMO.

Couldnt have said it better myself Niner. Cant even tell you how many times this discussion has been brought up in the past and I have to bring up the fact that Brady, Manning or Rodgers would have failed just as much as Cutler the last few years. Watching the Bears receivers and tight ends run their routes the last few years has been quite hilarious, because it was so bad. I mainly fault that on the offensive coordinator because it's his job to find routes to get these guys open and it looked like it was a pick up game.

 

[JDM]

Brady, Manning, or Rodgers would all have at least one Super Bowl in the last five years in Chicago. Cutler is a bad QB.

You guys blame all his mistakes on blocking and his teammates, and that's simply not reality. He has made more than his share of mistakes even given plenty of time.

 

[DaBearsShowPride]

Brady, Manning, or Rodgers would all have at least one Super Bowl in the last five years in Chicago. Cutler is a bad QB.

You guys blame all his mistakes on blocking and his teammates, and that's simply not reality. He has made more than his share of mistakes even given plenty of time.

You are out of your mind if you think Manning or Rodgers would have gone to the Super Bowl with Turner, Martz or Tice hahaha. Dude every QB makes mistakes when they have plenty of time, its common. Have you watched every single snap Cutler has played in with the Bears? You are going off of what the Media says and the Media blows it out of proportion. You didnt watch how bad the routes were by the OC's. You didnt see how bad the line played all 16 games of the year. You didnt see WR's make their own mistakes which resulted in a Cutler turnover.

 

[NinerSickness]

Brady, Manning, or Rodgers would all have at least one Super Bowl in the last five years in Chicago. Cutler is a bad QB.

You guys blame all his mistakes on blocking and his teammates, and that's simply not reality. He has made more than his share of mistakes even given plenty of time.

Plenty of time? That's insane.

And saying he's a "bad" QB because he isn't as good as Brady, Manning or Rodgers means every QB not named Rodgers, Manning or Brady is a bad QB.