Who are the five most overrated QB's/Teams in the NFL?

[blh7068]

I see far too many of his mistakes put on his line and receivers by a good group of people when the fact of the matter was that he fucked up. He doesn't get blamed near enough for his mistakes.

Not quite. He makes his fair share of mistakes, and actually has made fewer bad throws the last few seasons vs the first few. The lack of help from his o line and receiving targets is perfectly justified. Emery has made moves to bolster the
o line and receiving targets. Moves that should have been initiated while Angelo was with the Bears, but didnt happen.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I love how all of these Seahawks fans go out of their way to badmouth RG3 & the Redskins. Oh well - I don't feel compelled to constantly rag on your team but different strokes I guess. Who knows @ RG3 this year - it remains to be seen. However - almost making it seem as if he will fall way short this year is laughable. Oh well - what do you expect for folks who root for an outright cheat like Carroll.

 

[jakedog56]

I love how all of these Seahawks fans go out of their way to badmouth RG3 & the Redskins. Oh well - I don't feel compelled to constantly rag on your team but different strokes I guess. Who knows @ RG3 this year - it remains to be seen. However - almost making it seem as if he will fall way short this year is laughable. Oh well - what do you expect for folks who root for an outright cheat like Carroll.

You mean all TWO of them that happened to mention the Redskins in the 100+ posts in this thread?!?!?

So now 2 = "all of these"?? It is like a massive hoard or something?

Also: Please define how Carroll cheated. There was an NCAA investigation that indicted him of no wrong doing, and the couple of hundred page report released from the investigation only mentioned his name something like twice and nothing in reference to breaking in rules.

Typical troll. Spouting off biased opinion with nothing factual to back it up.

 

[DaBearsShowPride]

You mean all TWO of them that happened to mention the Redskins in the 100+ posts in this thread?!?!?

So now 2 = "all of these"?? It is like a massive hoard or something?

Also: Please define how Carroll cheated. There was an NCAA investigation that indicted him of no wrong doing, and the couple of hundred page report released from the investigation only mentioned his name something like twice and nothing in reference to breaking in rules.

Typical troll. Spouting off biased opinion with nothing factual to back it up.

Unless you were there to witness every move by Coach Carroll at USC you have no idea what he did or did not do.

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

Overrated: teams that are good enough to be division champs but won't be.

DAL
IND
MIN
NO
SD

 

[jakedog56]

Unless you were there to witness every move by Coach Carroll at USC you have no idea what he did or did not do.

.........so I should take the word of a guy who just calls him a cheater on a message board with no facts to back it up over an NCAA investigation and report???

That makes no sense. Back it up with something more than heresay or you have nothing.

 

[Brees#1]

I would also add his arm is not nearly as strong as those 3 and not strong enough to be considered elite. If I wanted to run a true West Coast scheme then Brees would be my number one or two pick. Considering his arm strength, accuracy, touch, height, etc the WC is perfect for him and thats why he has excelled so well in this league.

Oh, please! Really? This is what its come to, so if a QB only plays well in a certain scheme he can't be elite? Sorry but I'm sure there are many HOF QBs in the past who excelled because of schemes...........One notable is Favre! He also was only good in the WCO. Brady has always had Belechik with him and the pats run a offensive scheme. Rodgers also has a scheme but makes plays with his feet. Only Manning has proven to override schemes and play his way but he is bonafide leader. Brees arm strength was bad in 2011 when he had so many options? Brees can make the top three but playing better than all three of those QBs after one year. Brady didnt win two of those superbowls, his defense and Viniaterri did.

 

[JDM]

Yes, not being versatile sets you apart from those who are. Brady has run a long variety of different offenses under bill, and this year will be different yet again. Others have shown flexibility as well. Brees has shown he doesn't do well in anything else.

 

[JDM]

Also Favre is one of the most overrated athletes of all time.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

I can't believe Cutler is on anyone's overrated list, he is underrated. The guy is a top notch QB that has been held back by his situation. This year will prove that and my Bears will be in SB contention the next 5 years.

 

[Brees#1]

Yes, not being versatile sets you apart from those who are. Brady has run a long variety of different offenses under bill, and this year will be different yet again. Others have shown flexibility as well. Brees has shown he doesn't do well in anything else.

If you base anything on SD then well thats flawed logic. Brees was not the no.1 priority there over LT. Brees was a game manager at SD compared to the saints.

But the experts are not ranking Brees out of the top three because of the reasons for schemes, its because of the ints he threw last year. And also, Brady plays in a bad conference and average division. He struggled in many games but because of how bad the other teams are he's managed to come back and win. He has shown to not be a winner in games against playoff teams save for the games against Manning. I saw some stuff I didnt like from Rodgers last year and Brees with his head coach is in a better current system than those other three QBs. how do we know Brees won't play well in another system? The pro bowls? Playing on a run first chargers team with Cam Cameron as his OC?

I don't think I'm going to like this board.

 

[JDM]

He can't make the throws a Brady or manning or Rodgers can. I didn't say he sucks. But considering him an elite option is absurdity at his finest. Anyone in their right mind would easily take any of this three before Brees, no questions asked. I bet a lot take RG3 or Russell Wilson over him as well for their upside. Matt Ryan is a comparable option. Brees isn't the no questions asked I take him guy like Brady manning, or Rodgers are.

 

[USCDoom]

I can't believe Cutler is on anyone's overrated list, he is underrated. The guy is a top notch QB that has been held back by his situation. This year will prove that and my Bears will be in SB contention the next 5 years.

The NFC is just too deep this year to make a statement like that, IMO. If it was 2010 and the Bucs had their current team I would be screaming Super Bowl. This year I dont even know if they can make the playoffs. I would not be surprised at all if San Fransisco finished in 3rd place, Atlanta in 4th, Green Bay in 4th and Washington in 3rd. Not one bit. Chicago is good enough to be the #1 seed in the NFC, but they can also finish 4th in their division. In 2013 either one happening would not surprise me.

If the 4 Wild card spots were open to everyone (basically the 4 best records who do not win a division make the playoffs regardless of Conference), I think the NFC would take all 4. I also would predict the AFC CG would be with an NFC team. But that is all fantasy...

 

[JDM]

That's an absurd statement. The only wildcard team that would have a chance to make a run in the AFC would be if Seattle sneaks that division away San fransisco. Minnesota made the playoffs last year with one player who isn't a complete joke on their entire team.

 

[cdumler7]

That's an absurd statement. The only wildcard team that would have a chance to make a run in the AFC would be if Seattle sneaks that division away San fransisco. Minnesota made the playoffs last year with one player who isn't a complete joke on their entire team.

This board does seem dominated by the thought that the NFC would just completely dominate anything the AFC can throw at them. Now I will say that I agree the NFC probably has better teams throughout the divisions as the AFC does seem pretty top heavy with 3 of the divisions most likely having repeat champions in the Broncos, Patriots, and Texans. The last 2 years the NFC has won the head to head matchups but before that it was 1995 I think that they actually won the head to head matchup battle. The AFC also just won the Superbowl in Baltimore over what many called a stacked 49ers roster. Throw in the top teams in the NFC have lost some key players already this off season to injury (not saying the AFC hasn't suffered some hits as well just the NFC teams are not looking as invincible as they once were).

 

[Nasty_Magician]

This board does seem dominated by the thought that the NFC would just completely dominate anything the AFC can throw at them. Now I will say that I agree the NFC probably has better teams throughout the divisions as the AFC does seem pretty top heavy with 3 of the divisions most likely having repeat champions in the Broncos, Patriots, and Texans. The last 2 years the NFC has won the head to head matchups but before that it was 1995 I think that they actually won the head to head matchup battle. The AFC also just won the Superbowl in Baltimore over what many called a stacked 49ers roster. Throw in the top teams in the NFC have lost some key players already this off season to injury (not saying the AFC hasn't suffered some hits as well just the NFC teams are not looking as invincible as they once were).

Oh well, the AFC only wins because the NFC is so tired from beating up on each other...

 

[cdumler7]

Oh well, the AFC only wins because the NFC is so tired from beating up on each other...

So the 2 weeks off before the Superbowl is not enough rest? Hmm NFC might want to look into their conditioning then.

 

[Clayton]

This board does seem dominated by the thought that the NFC would just completely dominate anything the AFC can throw at them. Now I will say that I agree the NFC probably has better teams throughout the divisions as the AFC does seem pretty top heavy with 3 of the divisions most likely having repeat champions in the Broncos, Patriots, and Texans. The last 2 years the NFC has won the head to head matchups but before that it was 1995 I think that they actually won the head to head matchup battle. The AFC also just won the Superbowl in Baltimore over what many called a stacked 49ers roster. Throw in the top teams in the NFC have lost some key players already this off season to injury (not saying the AFC hasn't suffered some hits as well just the NFC teams are not looking as invincible as they once were).

The Super Bowl is no reflection of conference power level, imo. Its too small of a sample size just being one game on a neutral site. The year the Patriots played the Panthers, Carolina was one of the worst Super Bowl teams ever yet they gave the Pats everything they could handle.

 

[cdumler7]

The Super Bowl is no reflection of conference power level, imo. Its too small of a sample size just being one game on a neutral site. The year the Patriots played the Panthers, Carolina was one of the worst Super Bowl teams ever yet they gave the Pats everything they could handle.

I don't disagree with that. I don't think many would say when the Giants beat the undefeated Patriots that they were the better team or represented having the better conference. I was more trying to point towards the idea that there are many that think no AFC team could hang with about the top 4 in the NFC right now in the 49ers, Seahawks, Packers, and Falcons. All four of those teams have some major question marks entering this season. Yes they have pretty good rosters but I do think that Houston, Denver, New England, Baltimore, Pitt, and Cincinnati are all very capable of beating each of those teams.

 

[Blaise Winter]

I can't believe Cutler is on anyone's overrated list, he is underrated. The guy is a top notch QB that has been held back by his situation. This year will prove that and my Bears will be in SB contention the next 5 years.

This dude has a new list of readymade excuses for Cutler every offseason, followed by a list of the reasons why this year it's different. A top running back was needed (Forte), a top 5 receiver (Marshall), a new OC (Cutler gets a new one fired practically every year), etc., until there presumably wouldn't be anything left. However, there is, as you can see.

Hilarious hearing from Bears fans that Rodgers couldn't succeed on the Bears any moreso than Cutler when Rodgers has had a worse o-line, worse running game and worse defense throughout both their tenures. Cutler is simply a poor quarterback, not in the top 15 like Bears fans are pretending to maintain (they really say top 10 when the conversation isn't somehow recorded), but right where his stats say he is - 20-25, even with one of the best wide receivers in the NFL to go along with one of the top all-purpose backs. Even a Super Bowl winning coach backed by a Super Bowl runner-up couldn't make it work for Cutler.