Which 1st Round QB Is Most Likely to Be a Bust?

[SteelersPride]

Mac jones getting very few votes is hilarious

 

[Mebert]

In terms of Mac Jones, has there ever been a QB prospect that was in the league for 4 years and got worse every year?

As a rookie he had an honest to god OC, then they gave him Patricia and nobody's confidence recovered from that. Patriots did him dirty, lowering the quality of the staff and the talent around him every year. I think his stint with the Jags is just a guy that had his confidence shattered.

 

[Clayton]

As a rookie he had an honest to god OC, then they gave him Patricia and nobody's confidence recovered from that. Patriots did him dirty, lowering the quality of the staff and the talent around him every year. I think his stint with the Jags is just a guy that had his confidence shattered.

Its not surprising that Bellichick is in college fb right now after what he did with that offense.

Jags ruin everyone. I suspect Mac Jones will at worst be a career backup

 

[SteelersPride]

Mac jones was never that good. Never saw it in college. Never saw more than a bottom 1/3 qb in the pros.

 

[Clayton]

Mac jones was never that good. Never saw it in college. Never saw more than a bottom 1/3 qb in the pros.

Looking through my old posts and it looks like old me agrees.

What I'm seeing from Mac Jones is that he is a robot. He sees a throw, he makes the throw. Stares guys down a bit and gets his WRs killed a bit. Throws off his backfoot a lot and it can sail but you see Mahomes do that, too, and it works out for him. Arm strength is good enough but the fit looks like West Coast with Play Action Deep Throws.

With Mac Jones, I just see Derek Carr. Not the most talented guy ever but someone who can be on the same page with his surrounding talent and can compete and win if put in the situation to do so.

I'd still take Fields before him, though.

 

[SteelersPride]

Looking through my old posts and it looks like old me agrees.

What I'm seeing from Mac Jones is that he is a robot. He sees a throw, he makes the throw. Stares guys down a bit and gets his WRs killed a bit. Throws off his backfoot a lot and it can sail but you see Mahomes do that, too, and it works out for him. Arm strength is good enough but the fit looks like West Coast with Play Action Deep Throws.

With Mac Jones, I just see Derek Carr. Not the most talented guy ever but someone who can be on the same page with his surrounding talent and can compete and win if put in the situation to do so.

I'd still take Fields before him, though.

Same!
I still laugh at the trey lance believers though. Nothing beats noonthirtyjoe and trubs though.

 

[chappee11]

Mac jones was never that good. Never saw it in college. Never saw more than a bottom 1/3 qb in the pros.

I(foolishly) figured that Belichick could make the most of his abilities and make him successful. It just seemed like he could always plug a QB in and make it work. Not this time, though!

 

[SteelersPride]

I(foolishly) figured that Belichick could make the most of his abilities and make him successful. It just seemed like he could always plug a QB in and make it work. Not this time, though!

I kind of thought on those lines but though it was bill being bullish and thinking he can make anyone succesful and that this was doomed to fail because mac just wasnt that good.

 

[PDay8810]

apparently there aren't many QB's out there good enough for the professional ranks.

AND

it's been this way for a long time.

 

[Clayton]

I kind of thought on those lines but though it was bill being bullish and thinking he can make anyone succesful and that this was doomed to fail because mac just wasnt that good.

Big problem with Mac Jones NE pick is that it looked like Belichick tried to create the highest floor possible but without a ceiling. Thats a team building strategy that works when you already have superstars (its what the Chiefs GM has basically been doing the past 5 years). Its a terrible rebuilding strategy.

Chris Simms came out and said Jones was a better prospect than Tua. Tua showed more accuracy on film so outside of injuries it seemed a bit dubious. I think someone in the Niners organization was playing him since thats his team and Lance was obviously there guy for reasons so sane person could explain.

In life, maybe its just best to weight the upside with the safety. Trevor Lawrence should always go 1 regardless of what he does in the NFL. Athlete, peaked early, accurate, most important position. Not perfect but the perfect QB never exists coming out. Roll those dice. Jets at #2? I had Sewell as the #2 prospect just due to upside and positional value. Good argument you just take Jamarr Chase and whatever happens you wont get fired for that. The other blue chip prospect was Surtain. Again, I dont think you get fired for that pick. Probably should have been pick 3. Then maybe from? there you can take risks. Everyone loved Lawrence, Chase, and Surtain as prospects. Just grab the blue chip and figure out QB when it falls in your lap?

The draft is tough.

Missing on Mac Jones at 15 isnt anywhere near as bad as missing in the top 5 imo. If you miss on the top 5 you need to fire your scouts.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

to be fair to Mac Jones.
He had the worst scenario to play in.
Hell they were like. Lets give him a DC for his OC. That should work.
Coaching staffs he has to work with have been a nightmare so far in his career.
Trey Lance was given a perfect scenario to work in. Couldnt even make it out of the batters box!

 

[SteelersPride]

Big problem with Mac Jones NE pick is that it looked like Belichick tried to create the highest floor possible but without a ceiling. Thats a team building strategy that works when you already have superstars (its what the Chiefs GM has basically been doing the past 5 years). Its a terrible rebuilding strategy.

Chris Simms came out and said Jones was a better prospect than Tua. Tua showed more accuracy on film so outside of injuries it seemed a bit dubious. I think someone in the Niners organization was playing him since thats his team and Lance was obviously there guy for reasons so sane person could explain.

In life, maybe its just best to weight the upside with the safety. Trevor Lawrence should always go 1 regardless of what he does in the NFL. Athlete, peaked early, accurate, most important position. Not perfect but the perfect QB never exists coming out. Roll those dice. Jets at #2? I had Sewell as the #2 prospect just due to upside and positional value. Good argument you just take Jamarr Chase and whatever happens you wont get fired for that. The other blue chip prospect was Surtain. Again, I dont think you get fired for that pick. Probably should have been pick 3. Then maybe from? there you can take risks. Everyone loved Lawrence, Chase, and Surtain as prospects. Just grab the blue chip and figure out QB when it falls in your lap?

The draft is tough.

Missing on Mac Jones at 15 isnt anywhere near as bad as missing in the top 5 imo. If you miss on the top 5 you need to fire your scouts.

Well put

 

[Clayton]

Well put

Do you think Justin Fields is starting for someone next year? I think there will be an opportunity

 

[SteelersPride]

Do you think Justin Fields is starting for someone next year? I think there will be an opportunity

I think hell get a shot. Not handed a starting job. Ill be honest. I ALWAYS have been high on fields. But his play with us was not what I expected. However, alot of steelers fans think they were putting him in a box. One read, simple, not even attempting to let him unleash what he can do. So its very hard to say. Tomlin does that sometimes….

I think hes brought in somewhere with another reclamation or maybe a tentative bridge situation.
Like maybe the raiders. If he does great. Awesome hes the guy. If not. They get their guy next year.

 

[Clayton]

I think hell get a shot. Not handed a starting job. Ill be honest. I ALWAYS have been high on fields. But his play with us was not what I expected. However, alot of steelers fans think they were putting him in a box. One read, simple, not even attempting to let him unleash what he can do. So its very hard to say. Tomlin does that sometimes….

I think hes brought in somewhere with another reclamation or maybe a tentative bridge situation.
Like maybe the raiders. If he does great. Awesome hes the guy. If not. They get their guy next year.

Colts are a good fit maybe. They probably need a real QB competition.

I wouldn't be shocked if we see 0 QBs go rd1 next year

 

[SteelersPride]

Colts are a good fit maybe. They probably need a real QB competition.

I wouldn't be shocked if we see 0 QBs go rd1 next year

I actually would be surprised if the colts brought him in. They have enough struggles with AR, they dont need a similar version . I would think they bring in a more traditional qb, but what do i know.

I think qbs will go. Look at this year. Guys way overdrafted. Nix, McCarthy etc.

I wouldnt be shocked at the raiders bringing him in. New orleans should…

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I wouldn't be shocked if we see 0 QBs go rd1 next year

Really? You feel the QB class is worse then the 2022 QB class that had only one late 1st round QB taken?

 

[SteelersPride]

Really? You feel the QB class is worse then the 2022 QB class that had only one late 1st round QB taken?

RIP Kenny

 

[HaroldSeattle]

RIP Kenny

Yeah. That 2022 class was quiet the bad QB class. I don't think this year class is as bad, but it's not good either.

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah. That 2022 class was quiet the bad QB class. I don't think this year class is as bad, but it's not good either.

Yeah it was really bad. Theres a few guys i like this year. I think quinn ewers has some game. But need to study a little More.