What division leader ends up not winning the division?

[Used 2 B Hu]

The Mets helped turn Daniel Murphy into an all-star. He thanks them with torment.

He's gonna lose them a dozen games with his defense annnnnnnny second now. Could beeeee happennnnnningggg....riiiiiight....aboooouuuuut....noooooowwwwwwwww.....

 

[The Q]

He's gonna lose them a dozen games with his defense annnnnnnny second now. Could beeeee happennnnnningggg....riiiiiight....aboooouuuuut....noooooowwwwwwwww.....

Nats should play him at 1B, Espinosa at 2B and now Turner at SS since Zimm is out.

Especiall with Zimm injured against and his career (and hitting) in a tailspin.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Nats should play him at 1B, Espinosa at 2B and now Turner at SS since Zimm is out.

Especiall with Zimm injured against and his career (and hitting) in a tailspin.

He played first Sunday. I love the dood and all, but we gotta start throwing at him. We only have six games left w/ Washington, so opportunities for him to hurt us will be fewer.

There is a long and illustrious list of former Mets who killed the Mets, but this is ridiculous. It's almost like the pitching staff loved him so much, they want to put him over.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Indians are overachieving.
Seriously, I think the White Sox can win the ALC.

I think the White Sox, Royals or Tigers could also win the division.

However, the Indians have arguably the best pitching staff in the major leagues and it's been that way for the last year and a half. An average offense coupled with a top of the line pitching staff is always a formidable team, so I'm not sure they're overachieving quite as much as you're implying.

The Indians' offense has been slightly above average, which is more than I expected, but I'm not sure how much that's going to drop off because they should be getting their best hitter, Brantley, back shortly.

Anything can happen, but I think the Indians have a better chance of holding on to the 1st spot than the Orioles, or Rangers. I also think the Dodgers are a better team than the Giants, but it being an even year and all, I'm not going to bet against the Giants.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Houston isn't much better than the Rangers pythag wise. a 15 run difference in Run Differential.

I was going to say something about...

Astros were -33 in April (going 7-17 that month). They're 41-24 since the end of April with a +63 run differential.

Astros played like watery turds in the early going. They're clicking now. I definitely think they can win the division.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Why y'all got to nerd shit up, guys? Just say "Nats B cuz they SUCK BWAH HAH HAH!" and then go bout ya bidness

Hey, Hu! Welcome back!

How are the Mets doing now that the rest of the division isn't lying down for them?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

And at the start of may over the last year they were like a 74 win team. (May 2015 to May 2016).

They're up and down. Very streaky. in 2015 they basically lived off of one hot month. Maybe they can do the same here. But the rangers also haven't had Darvish basically at all either. Getting him back and jettisoning some of the crap they've been throwing around, that is a nice swing in their favor.

Good point, Q.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Hey, Hu! Welcome back!

How are the Mets doing now that the rest of the division isn't lying down for them?

We're doing great, tied for that second wildcard!!

At least the NL Central got the memo about laying down. Plus, it's really only the Nats who seem to be frontin' right now, they should come to heel annnnny....seconnnnnddd...noooowwwwww....

 

[tducey]

Orioles. I think Toronto wins the division again this year.

 

[JohnU]

Anything can happen, but I think the Indians have a better chance of holding on to the 1st spot than the Orioles, or Rangers. I also think the Dodgers are a better team than the Giants, but it being an even year and all, I'm not going to bet against the Giants.

Giants have too much pitching depth to go into a long slump. Down the stretch, that's a morale plank.

 

[Bolts]

I'll say the O's, smallest division lead and I don't trust their SP at all.

 

[bksballer89]

Easily the O's.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Giants have too much pitching depth to go into a long slump. Down the stretch, that's a morale plank.

So, the Giants' pitching depth will prevent them from going into a long slump and giving up their 6.5 game lead, but the Indians' pitching depth won't keep them from coughing up a 7.0 game lead to the White Sox?

 

[Indrid Cold]

So, the Giants' pitching depth will prevent them from going into a long slump and giving up their 6.5 game lead, but the Indians' pitching depth won't keep them from coughing up a 7.0 game lead to the White Sox?

Brobama is going to dock the Tribe 10 games for having a racist team name

 

[JohnU]

So, the Giants' pitching depth will prevent them from going into a long slump and giving up their 6.5 game lead, but the Indians' pitching depth won't keep them from coughing up a 7.0 game lead to the White Sox?

Geez, homer ... I did not evaluate the indians. I just said they are overachieving. What the fuck? I don't give a fiddler's dick about the Indians. Go worship them on your own damned time.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Geez, homer ... I did not evaluate the indians. I just said they are overachieving. What the fuck? I don't give a fiddler's dick about the Indians. Go worship them on your own damned time.

I'm not worshipping anything. I'm using facts to discuss the topic. It's clear you didn't evaluate the Indians.

If you have an intelligent, supportable position as to why the Giants' pitching depth will serve them better than the Indians' pitching depth will serve them, I would sincerely love to hear it. Otherwise, you should quit cunting up the thread.

 

[JohnU]

If you have an intelligent, supportable position as to why the Giants' pitching depth will serve them better than the Indians' pitching depth will serve them, I would sincerely love to hear it. Otherwise, you should quit cunting up the thread.

I don't recall asking you to participate.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I don't recall asking you to participate.

You're on a public forum, half-wit.

 

[Villain]

Should've made this poll public.

 

[JohnU]

You're on a public forum, half-wit.

Let's clarify. The White Sox are capable of catching the Indians.
The Giants have too much pitching depth to go into a long slump.
I don't give a fuck about the Indians.