Vince Young files Chapter 11

[HammerDown]

I think that ship has sailed Hammer. There were plenty of teams in need of a QB this season & nobody wanted him.

...which proves true everything that Jeff Fisher said about him. He's clinically retarded and was incapable of learning even the basic playbook. Not to mention, he couldn't handle stress well and said things to Jeff that no player should say to a coach.

Not sure much was made of it but Kerry Collins was recently on Nashville sports radio and detailed some of the stuff that happened but declined to get specific when asked about what exactly Vince said in the locker room in front of the whole team. I'd sure love to know.

 

[HammerDown]

Their website is still up: Vince Young Steakhouse | Austin, Texas

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

...which proves true everything that Jeff Fisher said about him. He's clinically retarded and was incapable of learning even the basic playbook. Not to mention, he couldn't handle stress well and said things to Jeff that no player should say to a coach.

Not sure much was made of it but Kerry Collins was recently on Nashville sports radio and detailed some of the stuff that happened but declined to get specific when asked about what exactly Vince said in the locker room in front of the whole team. I'd sure love to know.

Fisher didn't want to draft him. The VY pick came from ownership. The owner should have listened to the coach. I'm sure Fisher was involved in the interview process with VY. That's probably all he needed to know that VY wasn't going to make it in the NFL.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Well, he isn't one of those.

LOL

 

[starbigd]

Fisher didn't want to draft him. The VY pick came from ownership. The owner should have listened to the coach. I'm sure Fisher was involved in the interview process with VY. That's probably all he needed to know that VY wasn't going to make it in the NFL.

VY was capable of making it in the NFL. Fisher did everything he could to undermine him though.

No reasonable coach benches the best QB on his team. No reasonable coach sacrifices team wins for his own ego. Fisher did both, and is partly why he also got fired.

If VY was drafted to a coach that was sane, I think he could have had a decent career. Sometimes where you end up colors how you develop as a player. Lord knows the ability was there.....but not the support.

All that said, VY didn't help his own cause either, from a lack of maturity. But MUCH dumber players have succeeded in this league at his position......it's like people just forget Bradshaw is a HOFer or something......

 

[TexasExes98]

VY will just work for the LHN and make about $200K a year, or go work for Michael Dell playing QB for the company flag football team and make half a mil a year. He just won't be able to spend $5K a week at Cheesecake Factory anymore.....

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

VY was capable of making it in the NFL. Fisher did everything he could to undermine him though.

No reasonable coach benches the best QB on his team. No reasonable coach sacrifices team wins for his own ego. Fisher did both, and is partly why he also got fired.

If VY was drafted to a coach that was sane, I think he could have had a decent career. Sometimes where you end up colors how you develop as a player. Lord knows the ability was there.....but not the support.

All that said, VY didn't help his own cause either, from a lack of maturity. But MUCH dumber players have succeeded in this league at his position......it's like people just forget Bradshaw is a HOFer or something......

Bradshaw is crazy like a fox smart. He's no dummy.

 

[starbigd]

Bradshaw is crazy like a fox smart. He's no dummy.

YES, he is a dummy. A notch above retarded. You guys criticize VY for his wonderlic, maybe you should look up Bradshaw's

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

YES, he is a dummy. A notch above retarded. You guys criticize VY for his wonderlic, maybe you should look up Bradshaw's

Bradshaw is laughing all the way to the bank. Meanwhile VY just filed for bankruptcy.

 

[pennstatenut]

YES, he is a dummy. A notch above retarded. You guys criticize VY for his wonderlic, maybe you should look up Bradshaw's

Landry was the first NFL coach to use the Wonderlic in the 70's. Almost sure Bradshaw didn't have one.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Remember VY, Matt Leinart, and Bush was the future of the league?

At least Bush turned out decent and contributed to a Super Bowl team.

 

[Goldbug]

Terry Bradshaw had a 15 on his Wonderlic. Ya gotta be pretty damn stupid not to do well on that test. It's easy as hell.

I found a link with all the scores but it won't post.

 

[Goldbug]

If you're wondering about past quarterback Wonderlic scores in recent drafts, the quarterback class of 2011 posted these numbers:

Greg McElroy, Alabama- 43

Blaine Gabbert, Missouri- 42

Colin Kaepernick, Nevada- 37

Christian Ponder, Florida State- 35

Ricky Stanzi, Iowa- 30

Andy Dalton, TCU- 29

Ryan Mallett, Arkansas- 26

Cam Newton, Auburn- 21

Jake Locker, Washington- 20

The quarterback class of 2012 had these results:

Andrew Luck, Stanford- 37

Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M- 34

Kirk Cousins, Michigan State- 33

Russell Wilson, Wisconsin- 28

Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State- 27

Kellen Moore, Boise State- 26

Brock Osweiler, Arizona State- 25

Robert Griffin III, Baylor- 24

So in the past two years the six first or second year quarterbacks who have led their teams to the playoffs have averaged a 31.6 on the Wonderlic with a high score of a 37 (Luck and Kaepernick) and a low of 24 (RGIII).

How about the Super Bowl winning quarterbacks currently playing in the NFL?

There are seven.

Here are their Wonderlic scores:

Eli Manning, Ole Miss 39

Aaron Rodgers, Cal 35

Tom Brady, Michigan 33

Peyton Manning, Tennessee 28

Drew Brees, Purdue 28

Joe Flacco, Delaware 27

Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio) 25

Right now the average Wonderlic of a Super Bowl winning quarterback presently playing in the NFL is a 30.7, which is pretty similar to last year's playoff crop of first or second year quarterbacks which averaged a 31.6.

These numbers become even more similar if you plug in the number of Super Bowls each of these guys has won, Brady has three, Eli has two, and Big Ben has two. The average Wonderlic score over the past 11 Super Bowls?

31.3, which is almost identical to the 31.6 average Wonderlic posted by the six first or second year quarterbacks in the playoffs.

So is 31 a magic number of sorts?

I'd want to dive into the numbers over more years to see whether the numbers continue to measure out, but for right now if you want to draft a Super Bowl winning quarterback, he'd better score a 24 or higher on the Wonderlic.

Other notable current or recent quarterbacks in the league and their scores:

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Harvard 48

Alex Smith, Utah 40

Matthew Stafford, Georgia 38

Tony Romo, Eastern Illinois 37

Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 36

Matt Ryan, Boston College 32

Philip Rivers, N.C. State 30

Josh Freeman, Kansas State 27

Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt 26

JaMarcus Russell, LSU 24

Tim Tebow, Florida 22

Mike Vick, Virginia Tech 20

Vince Young, Texas 6 (although he purportedly retook it and scored a 15)

Retired quarterback scores:

Steve Young, 33

John Elway, 29

Brett Favre, 22

Dan Marino, 15

Donovan McNabb, 15

Jim Kelly, 15

Terry Bradshaw, 15

 

[KansasSooner]

Terry Bradshaw had a 15 on his Wonderlic. Ya gotta be pretty damn stupid not to do well on that test. It's easy as hell.

I found a link with all the scores but it won't post.

Wonderlic Scores Leak For 2013 Quarterbacks : Outkick The Coverage

You were using the insert link and it just doubled up the http:// part. (just remove the http:// that appears in the box first).

 

[yourTEAMreallySUCKS]

Vince young is the embodiment of Texas football.... So much talent and potential, just can't equate it to success.

 

[Texas Jefe]

Vince young is the embodiment of Texas football.... So much talent and potential, just can't equate it to success.

Actually, he did 'equate it to success', he won a National Championship. He won two of the best Rose Bowls ever played.

As for the rest, he was not a complete bust in the NFL, he did have a little success there.

Financially, he was an idiot. MB and numerous Texas Exes who were experts in financial matters wanted to help him, would have done anything to help him. However, VY wanted to use 'his people'. You can see how that worked out.

 

[jooo83]

VY was capable of making it in the NFL. Fisher did everything he could to undermine him though.

No reasonable coach benches the best QB on his team. No reasonable coach sacrifices team wins for his own ego. Fisher did both, and is partly why he also got fired.

If VY was drafted to a coach that was sane, I think he could have had a decent career. Sometimes where you end up colors how you develop as a player. Lord knows the ability was there.....but not the support.

All that said, VY didn't help his own cause either, from a lack of maturity. But MUCH dumber players have succeeded in this league at his position......it's like people just forget Bradshaw is a HOFer or something......

You seem really objective.

 

[ElTexan]

Fisher didn't want to draft him. The VY pick came from ownership. The owner should have listened to the coach. I'm sure Fisher was involved in the interview process with VY. That's probably all he needed to know that VY wasn't going to make it in the NFL.

Youre a moron. With no help from his coach on an absolutely horrid team and playing the hardest SOS in 2006 in the NFL, he won 7 games in a row and was a few plays in the last game from getting to playoffs.

In the second year, Titans drafted NO ONE except a Tight End, that didnt even end up being the starting tight end at the end of the season, lost Pac Man Jones to paternity suites/jail, and still playing one of the hardest SOS's, and he DID get them to the playoffs.... all with ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT from his HC and OC.

 

[fordman84]

Dang, if only VY would have had another shot on another team...or 2...where Fisher couldn't undermine him. I mean damn, he was on the NFL Dream Team!

 

[MarkOU]

GET EM WHILE THEY'RE HOT HOT HOT!