Vance Joseph interviewing for Denver HC job

[timmanis2000]

I have a feeling he is gonna get the Dcoordinator job.

 

[DanBengalfan]

hmm...

can they have Geunther instead?

 

[Be Weary of Query]

Mike Brown sez no. You're staying.

Report: Cincinnati Bengals block Vance Joseph from Denver Broncos - ESPN

 

[Cincyfan78]

I'm going to guess that he wants stability heading into the 2nd year under Guenther. Having to replace a coach right after your 1st year could be a challenge to a new DC in his first job.

Coyle was originally denied after his 1st year with the Bengals when he interviewed with the Eagles. He was allowed to leave the following year for the Dolphins.

 

[cincygrad]

Wow!

2 thoughts:

1) I didn't realize we blocked Coyle a few years ago. I had always figured that Mike Brown wouldn't stand in the way of a coach getting a promotion.

2) How Bengalized does Joseph feel right now? He had an opportunity to go back to Coloarado (he went to college there) and coach with a guy that he knows well. Now he's stuck here with a unproven defensive coordinator coaching DBs for a team with no pass rush. He might as well just give up and start pouting like AJ, Gio and the rest of the guys that have been Bengalized.

 

[DanBengalfan]

maybe he can pull a Carson Palmer 'trade me or I retire'

has a coach ever done that?

 

[Cincyfan78]

It's not all that uncommon for teams to deny a position coach to leave right off the bat, or at all.

At least 5 or 6 other teams have denied permission for their current coaches to interview, or take, another offer in the last month alone.

 

[cincygrad]

It's not all that uncommon for teams to deny a position coach to leave right off the bat, or at all.

At least 5 or 6 other teams have denied permission for their current coaches to interview, or take, another offer in the last month alone.

It's not all that uncommon for teams to spend money on a free agent every now and then.... And it's not all that uncommon for a team to replace below average coaches and quarterbacks. Doesn't mean the Bengals do these things.

 

[DanBengalfan]

the coaches should go on strike.

 

[Cincyfan78]

It's not all that uncommon for teams to spend money on a free agent every now and then.... And it's not all that uncommon for a team to replace below average coaches and quarterbacks. Doesn't mean the Bengals do these things.

No, but it does go towards stability, and I think we all know how much Brown values stability amongst his ranks.

 

[cdumler7]

I think this move to not let him take the DC job in Denver though is not going to look good. As much as I hate typing this he is a minority with a chance to move up. The NFL is working hard to encourage teams to look more towards minority coaches for opportunities so denying him an opportunity to advance his career is not looking good. Now it is legal for them to do this and it is not completely uncommon to happen. It usually only happens when teams are trying to hire guys for a similar or the exact same position though not a promotion. Now it has happened though for promotions so again it is your teams right to do so but can't think he is too happy with the team blocking his chance to really make a name for himself with a chance to go back to Colorado.

 

[DanBengalfan]

you can have guenther, he's a qualified DC according to some people here.

 

[cincygrad]

I think this move to not let him take the DC job in Denver though is not going to look good. As much as I hate typing this he is a minority with a chance to move up. The NFL is working hard to encourage teams to look more towards minority coaches for opportunities so denying him an opportunity to advance his career is not looking good. Now it is legal for them to do this and it is not completely uncommon to happen. It usually only happens when teams are trying to hire guys for a similar or the exact same position though not a promotion. Now it has happened though for promotions so again it is your teams right to do so but can't think he is too happy with the team blocking his chance to really make a name for himself with a chance to go back to Colorado.

The NFL needs to change the rules if they want to help the situation. This has been happening all over the league this offseason.

Joseph will get his chance next year. When we tank again, Marvin will use Pauly G as his scapegoat and replace him with Joseph. It's the Bengal way.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The NFL needs to change the rules if they want to help the situation. This has been happening all over the league this offseason.

Joseph will get his chance next year. When we tank again, Marvin will use Pauly G as his scapegoat and replace him with Joseph. It's the Bengal way.

I agree. I actually feel bad for Joseph. A DC job is a step away from a HC job. To lose out on this opportunity is quite a shame. Kubiak loved Joseph, and there may not be that same love around the league next year when DC jobs are available. This year had such a high turnover rate in coaching around the league, that it may take him several years to get this same opportunity.

 

[DanBengalfan]

The NFL needs to change the rules if they want to help the situation. This has been happening all over the league this offseason.

Joseph will get his chance next year. When we tank again, Marvin will use Pauly G as his scapegoat and replace him with Joseph. It's the Bengal way.

you might be right.

 

[cincygrad]

I agree. I actually feel bad for Joseph. A DC job is a step away from a HC job. To lose out on this opportunity is quite a shame. Kubiak loved Joseph, and there may not be that same love around the league next year when DC jobs are available. This year had such a high turnover rate in coaching around the league, that it may take him several years to get this same opportunity.

There will be a lot of turnover next year as well.... That's just the way the league is these days. When results don't meet expectations, the coaches get fired. In Cincinnati, we've overcome this problem by lowering our expectations.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

There will be a lot of turnover next year as well.... That's just the way the league is these days. When results don't meet expectations, the coaches get fired. In Cincinnati, we've overcome this problem by lowering our expectations.

The question is though, will other HC candidates next year have as much respect for Vance and his ability as Kubiak did?

 

[DanBengalfan]

just doesn't feel right.

 

[cincygrad]

The question is though, will other HC candidates next year have as much respect for Vance and his ability as Kubiak did?

If Dennard and Fitzpatrick have good seasons everyone will praise Joseph.....

If they get cooked all season and finish in the bottom 10 in pass defense, everyone will rip Joseph.

 

[kramer1]

you can have guenther, he's a qualified DC according to some people here.

Quit being an idiot.