UNO is moving to division 1

[HawkeyeHater]

Well then let's just go to a non scholarship program since the walk ons are so great.

I never said all walk ons are bumbs.

I never said to get rid of the walk on program.

Of course Osborne is going to preach the walk on program because most of the fans have been brain washed to think it is a bigger deal than it is.

I am friends with a few former walk ons and tell them the same thing.

These players that would have gone to UNO will not walk on at Nebraska. They will get scholarships at Kearney, Chadron, NWMS, Pittsburgh St, South and North Dakota schools, and other surrounding places.

Really????? So is that why the coaches of schools such as Wayne State attribute the success they had from 05-10 that Callahan was not recruiting walk-ons.....

Callahan did not KILL the walk-on program as many like to say, but he did not actively RECRUIT walk-ons..



He recruited a few players he wanted to walk-on.... such as Danny Woodhead.....

 

[Papalou]

Yeah, without walk ons guys like Frazier, Phillips, Green, Wistrom, and so on and so wouldn't have won anything. And all of the great coaches we have had would have been bumbs and been fired.

The walk on program adds an intense competition to the mix. A competitive

atmosphere that I believe played a crucial role in the development of all

scholly players. Or maybe you are right and the threat of being beat out

by a walk on didnt phase any of these players. Maybe refer to Keller and see

what happens when you know that You are the man come hell or high water.

 

[jedburks]

Who blocked for Frazier, Phillips, Green

Nothing but walk ons right? There was nobody else good enough to block for those guys than walk ons on the entire roster right?

 

[jedburks]

I know some of you only heard one little piece of what I said so let me straighten you out.

You NEVER see where I said the walk on program is a joke, bad, needs to go away, has never worked, or anything to that extent.

All I am saying is that the emphasis on it's importance is over blown.

For the people that don't think we win any of our NCs with out the walk on program, how many different national champions has there been? How many of them were because of their walk on program?

 

[iruletheskool]

walk-ons helped the championship teams, whether we would have won without them is irrelevant..

I get what your saying, but it sounds like you think people the walk-ons are more important that scholly players, and I don't know anybody who thinks that.

 

[HawkeyeHater]

There is not an aspect of the history of Nebraska football that is more played out than the "importance" of the walk on program. This program was built on great scholarship players and even better coaches. Not walk on from BFE Nebraska.

See... I have a major problem with that right there....... Bum Fucked Egypt Nebraska, right because Omaha and Lincoln are Nebraska and everything else is BFE Nebraska....



This program was built by great coaches who used a mixture of scholorship athletes and walk-ons to build that program, the program would not be what it is without scholorship players, just as the program would not be what it is without the walk-ons to argue either point is stupid........

Just as you are not saying "the walk-ons did nothing" nobody here is arguing that the "walk-ons" did everything....


You say the importance is overblown......


I call bullshit......


It's important, is it the end-all-be all hell no.... The end-all-be all starts with Bo freaking Pelini........

And if he can't get the job done, it's on to the next guy...../

 

[jedburks]

walk-ons helped the championship teams, whether we would have won without them is irrelevant..

I get what your saying, but it sounds like you think people the walk-ons are more important that scholly players, and I don't know anybody who thinks that.

I don't beleve people think that but since they took my words and threw them so far over the fence that I can't see the fence I responded by doing the same thing the other way.

 

[HawkeyeHater]

I don't beleve people think that but since they took my words and threw them so far over the fence that I can't see the fence I responded by doing the same thing the other way.

Maybe it was how you said it.......................... you said it with a phrase that projected a attitude of fuck everything Nebraskan except for Lincoln and Omaha...

 

[jedburks]

See... I have a major problem with that right there....... Bum Fucked Egypt Nebraska, right because Omaha and Lincoln are Nebraska and everything else is BFE Nebraska....



This program was built by great coaches who used a mixture of scholorship athletes and walk-ons to build that program, the program would not be what it is without scholorship players, just as the program would not be what it is without the walk-ons to argue either point is stupid........

Just as you are not saying "the walk-ons did nothing" nobody here is arguing that the "walk-ons" did everything....


You say the importance is overblown......


I call bullshit......


It's important, is it the end-all-be all hell no.... The end-all-be all starts with Bo freaking Pelini........

And if he can't get the job done, it's on to the next guy...../

But Hawkeye you are the exception, not the rule. There are so many people that think it is the end all be all that it over shadows the smart people like you and me.

 

[jedburks]

Maybe it was how you said it.......................... you said it with a phrase that projected a attitude of fuck everything Nebraskan except for Lincoln and Omaha...

Well I do kind of feel that way.

And I have relatives in Doniphan and Scottsbluff.

 

[HawkeyeHater]

There's a lot of good folks outside those city limits.......

 

[jedburks]

There's a lot of good folks outside those city limits.......

Yes there are, but not enough good athletes to build championship programs.

 

[Papalou]

Jed you are right that there arent enough athletes outside of the metro areas to build a championship team. There arent enough athletes in the entire state to build one.

All of that aside, our opinions are worlds apart on the importance of the walk on program. I firmly believe that strong competition is essential in building a high caliber program.

Whether these players see the turf during the game to me is irelevant, there presense at practice alone makes the team stronger.

 

[jedburks]

There are few people in this world that believe in the theory of "steel sharpens steel" more than I do. In my opinion, just because there are more bodies doesn't mean they are all "steel".

 

[Big Red Said]

I don't have time right now to go into this but...

The walk on program deliver's much more than bodies... Very
Undervalued part of Husker Football. Unless you have been on the inside looking out, you may not appreciate it as much as you should.

But to get back to topic....>> I can't say that UNO is doing itself justice here.... But I don't know their money situation either?

 

[sandhill_husker]

They are not dropping the only revenue sport. Football doesn't make money at UNO. Hockey is that cash cow at UNO.

BTW, they are adding men's golf and soccer not tennis.

Football can make money by traveling to BCS schools and taking the payday loss with occaisional upsets. That was actually what I'm talking bout. Not attendance and related revenue generation at their home games.

 

[jedburks]

Football can make money by traveling to BCS schools and taking the payday loss with occaisional upsets. That was actually what I'm talking bout. Not attendance and related revenue generation at their home games.

That is not always the case. You are not guaranteed to have a BCS game or 2 every year. Plus with needing to add women's sports to comply with that shitty title 9 just purges more money. Banking on BCS paydays is a gamble.

 

[jedburks]

I don't have time right now to go into this but...

The walk on program deliver's much more than bodies... Very
Undervalued part of Husker Football. Unless you have been on the inside looking out, you may not appreciate it as much as you should.

But to get back to topic....>> I can't say that UNO is doing itself justice here.... But I don't know their money situation either?

In one of my previous delivery jobs, I went through about 5 different delivery partners. 2 of them were former players. 1 was a pretty prominent contributor on offense during the 60-3 run in the 90's. Another was a walk on scrub that never sniffed the field. Working in the building was also a former walk on player that was a back up and played a bit also in the mid 90's. I may not have done it personally but driving to and from Lincoln and all around SE Nebraska we had ALOT of time to talk about alot of stuff. I feel like I have a good grasp on the importance of the walk on program. My thoughts are more about the fans emphasis and unbelievably high regard of the walk on program than what the actual program thinks of it.

 

[Papalou]

There are few people in this world that believe in the theory of "steel sharpens steel" more than I do. In my opinion, just because there are more bodies doesn't mean they are all "steel".

I have to agree with this point and I dont assume that every walk on in the program is going to make an sizeable impact on the team.

Not all of our scholly players live up to expectations and I would guess that
the number of walk ons who dont pan out is probably three times as many.

 

[Big Red Said]

I really did not have the time... but I threw this together to express my thoughts... Forgive any typing errors of incomplete thoughts if herein... I was in a hurry...

Years ago, back when we were the only institution that really recruited Nebraska kids, our Walk on program was phenomenal. It then took a hit and became harder to get our in-state kids to commit to our program because of multiple factors. Just to name a couple….

1. Outstate Universities started infiltrating and raiding the Husker State.

2. Economic conditions changed and parents whom were funding their kids education no longer had the ability to front the bill, thus kids become more and more interested in smaller college’s where they could go to get their education and have a better chance to be a major contributor.

3. New scholarship rules (#s) decreased.

4. Billy C reducing our numbers during his time here…

Now let me say this, there has been and always will be great achievements by some of our walk on players. Starters and some stars in the making who were not fully developed by their high school and we could see the mass potential they had.

But to name just a few other positives about our program (Just my opinion though):

A. Gives us depth at positions and creates more competition.

B. Give us more players to utilize in preparation. (Practice) Thus allowing us more repetitions.

C. Creates individual pride, to be part of the program… as there are not many who would argue that putting on the Husker uniform and being part of this tradition is what most kids in this state dream of doing.

D. It put us in each and every household in the state. It helps create community pride as one of their own is part of the Huskers. You know, the kid that came from Imperial this year may have not been a superstar walk-on, but what about the next? You remember the name Makovicka? Kind of set the standard here as a Fullback!

E. Something that mattered to me although not a walk on, was how the walk on made all of us better! They were there and going to fight you every step of the way to get your position. Jason Peter , the Makovicka brothers and every one like them brought reality to the game, a sense of pride, an attitude of.. fuck you if you think your scholarship means anything to me… let’s line up bitch!

This in itself was probably more important to all of us who played than anything else.

They brought more Honor, Integrity, hard work ethics and the never give up attitude to our team more-so then most of the scholarship players!

The program was not built on “just by scholarship players and great coaches”….

As a matter of fact, it has been built on tradition… which includes our walk-on program!

I would go so far as to say that the walk on players made all of us prepare that much harder for each game or their hungry asses would be nipping at our heals wanting our position…. So we had to be at the top of our game.

I will not argue your points as far as the fans perception… as to each their own… but I do take issue on BFE Nebraska as I have seen many Egyptians from po-dunk Nebraska make a lasting mark on what we all think of now as Husker Traditions!

Do they outnumber the scholarship player’s contributions?

No, but which of the walk-ons contributions helped create the path for what the scholarship player accomplished?