Tulo's Extension

[Heathbar012]

7 years/$134 million

Sources: Colorado Rockies, Troy Tulowitzki close on new megadeal - ESPN

A Rockie til 2020.
Thoughts? Feelings? Concerns? General Discontent?

 

[calsnowskier]

He is a stud, but signing ANYBODY to a 10 year deal is, IMHO, a bad idea.

What happens if he gets hurt this season? What happens if he becomes Adrian Beltre? The Rox will be handcuffed with this thing for the entire decade.

 

[Heathbar012]

This is true. Not that I would wish a broken wrist on anyone, but Tulo's is already weak. It's probably okay to wish for complications.

 

[msgkings322]

I like it when a player stays his whole career with one team (Ripken, Gwynn, etc) and a super long contract is one way to make that happen. But it seems safer to do a series of 5 year ones...

 

[calsnowskier]

I like it when a player stays his whole career with one team (Ripken, Gwynn, etc) and a super long contract is one way to make that happen. But it seems safer to do a series of 5 year ones...

I agree that player/team identity is nice, but it doesn't really exist anymore. Of course there are the few exceptions (Jeter, potentially Tulo and Longoria, obviously Lincecum, Cain, Posey and Bumgarner), but FA has killed that as a possibility, and the large amounts of money getting paid to these players creates too many Adrian Beltre types to make the life-time contracts make sense.

 

[msgkings322]

I agree that player/team identity is nice, but it doesn't really exist anymore. Of course there are the few exceptions (Jeter, potentially Tulo and Longoria, obviously Lincecum, Cain, Posey and Bumgarner), but FA has killed that as a possibility, and the large amounts of money getting paid to these players creates too many Adrian Beltre types to make the life-time contracts make sense.

Oh man I hope we keep those 4 long enough for them to be our 'identity'...fingers crossed.

I think we agree superlong deals are a big risk, but gotta credit the Rox for jumping in with both feet and saying let's do this.

Yankees also managed to keep Rivera and Posada all this time too.

I guess a player can play MOST of his career somewhere and still be considered that team's 'identity' (Willie Mays being the prime example, but more recently Frank Thomas and Will Clark come to mind)

 

[calsnowskier]

Oh man I hope we keep those 4 long enough for them to be our 'identity'...fingers crossed.

I think we agree superlong deals are a big risk, but gotta credit the Rox for jumping in with both feet and saying let's do this.

Yankees also managed to keep Rivera and Posada all this time too.

I guess a player can play MOST of his career somewhere and still be considered that team's 'identity' (Willie Mays being the prime example, but more recently Frank Thomas and Will Clark come to mind)

I think this is all the fans can hope for today. Junior is an M, Bonds is a Giant, Sosa is a Cub. What about McGwire? Clemens? Boggs? Johnson?

Today's players are becoming more like Rollie Fingers and Nolan Ryan (and Reggie Jackson, Ricky Henderson and Dave Winfield as well) then George Brett, Cal Ripkin or Tony Gwynn.

 

[SFGRTB]

I like it when a player stays his whole career with one team (Ripken, Gwynn, etc) and a super long contract is one way to make that happen. But it seems safer to do a series of 5 year ones...

I completely agree. I like it when the teams hang on to the players they brought up from the farm for a long period of time.

Tulo's deal is very risky and kinda dissapointing becuase in 3 years when he was a FA, SF would have likely been high on his list of teams wanting to go to. I never had my heart set on it, but it was in the back of my mind. But from 2014-2019, they are playing him $20 million per! Yikes!

 

[msgkings322]

I think this is all the fans can hope for today. Junior is an M, Bonds is a Giant, Sosa is a Cub. What about McGwire? Clemens? Boggs? Johnson?

Today's players are becoming more like Rollie Fingers and Nolan Ryan (and Reggie Jackson, Ricky Henderson and Dave Winfield as well) then George Brett, Cal Ripkin or Tony Gwynn.

+1

Total agreement. Which is why it's nice to see Tulo get that deal even though he may kill us for a decade.

 

[msgkings322]

I completely agree. I like it when the teams hang on to the players they brought up from the farm for a long period of time.

Tulo's deal is very risky and kinda dissapointing becuase in 3 years when he was a FA, SF would have likely been high on his list of teams wanting to go to. I never had my heart set on it, but it was in the back of my mind. But from 2014-2019, they are playing him $20 million per! Yikes!

With salary inflation if he stays healthy and this good that will be a bargain by 2017. That of course is a big if and the reason there's a risk here (for both parties, probably greater for the Rox than Tulo).

 

[Heathbar012]

With salary inflation if he stays healthy and this good that will be a bargain by 2017. That of course is a big if and the reason there's a risk here (for both parties, probably greater for the Rox than Tulo).

And anytime the Rox are taking a risk, it's a good thing. Unless the Dodgers get Carl Crawford (which they won't), our friends in the mountains are the Giants stiffest competition for the next three years. Hyperbolic comment? Contingent on Dexter Fowler and EY's development?

 

[msgkings322]

And anytime the Rox are taking a risk, it's a good thing. Unless the Dodgers get Carl Crawford (which they won't), our friends in the mountains are the Giants stiffest competition for the next three years. Hyperbolic comment? Contingent on Dexter Fowler and EY's development?

That sounds right, but 3 years is an eternity to project. Look at the difference between the 2007 Giants and 2010 Giants.

I'd say the next 2 years it's Giants vs Rox with outside shot of Padres involved.

 

[Heathbar012]

Touche. I'm on this three-year plan kick, being both a Warriors' and Niners' fan (sooner, please). Also, the D-Backs could right the ship if B-Webb is 100% for the rest of his career (not seeming likely), and they get another strong top of the rotation arm (less likely?). I do like their line-up, though. I wish Stephen Drew were in another division.