tOfficial 2015 NBA Draft/Free Agency Thread

[LAD]

There are 16 playoff teams each year (obviously). Do you know how many teams made the playoffs that WERE NOT top 16 in 3pt percentage?


13 of the 16 playoff teams finished in the top 16 of 3 pt percentage. That is not a coincidence.

I think this stat is misleading in many ways. Do you know how many teams don't make the playoffs each season because of their geographic location? What I mean by that is -usually every season there are better teams in the West that don't make the playoffs because there are only 8 slots per Conference. And when I say better teams I mean better than at least 6 teams in the Eastern Conference that do make the playoffs. How many of those teams did you factor into your 3pt % stat?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

With as good as players are at shooting these days... taking 3 pointers just makes too much sense.

If your team takes 100 2 pointers and shoots 55% (a ridiculously good 2-pt %)... and my teams takes 100 3 pointers.... we only have to shoot 37% to beat you (a reasonable 3-pt % these days).

It's not quite that simple though, because missed 3's often lead to fast breaks on the other end.

 

[gordontrue]

It's not quite that simple though, because missed 3's often lead to fast breaks on the other end.

Good point. Yeah, that was a big-time oversimplification. Another important factor is that layups and dunks are more like 90%... so it depends on the quality of 2 point shots.

Just pointing out that the better players get at shooting (and they are a LOT better, just go look at the 3 point percentage leader boards from a couple decades ago)... the more its going to make mathematical sense to attempt 3 pointers.

 

[LAD]

Good point. Yeah, that was a big-time oversimplification. Another important factor is that layups and dunks are more like 90%... so it depends on the quality of 2 point shots.

Just pointing out that the better players get at shooting (and they are a LOT better, just go look at the 3 point percentage leader boards from a couple decades ago)... the more its going to make mathematical sense to attempt 3 pointers.

I think it makes sense when you have young legs and guys that will get back and defend. Reason being is because shooters are always going to have bad shooting nights- even the best shooters. So in order to make sure 3pt shooting remains a weapon vs. a liability you have to have transition defense.

 

[trojanfan12]

You like the analogy. I don't. That's fine.

Movies aren't competing with anyone. You can have 10 successful movies in one summer. Only 1 NBA team can succeed every summer. I don't think the Cavs fit the analogy of a failed blockbuster, nor would they if they lose in the Finals again next year.

I'm not arguing to argue. I'm just sharing my honest opinion.

Movies compete with other movies, but they aren't competing for 1 spot. They are competing to make money. So yes, a movie can not be the top earner at the box office and still be considered a success.

The Cavs are in championship or bust mode. So, in this case you're correct, they don't fit the analogy of a failed blockbuster. If they don't win a title, it's worse than a failed blockbuster.

 

[trojanfan12]

But, he’d rather kick it & make it rain in clubs than concentrate on improving his game. Simple.

To be fair, kickin' it and making it rain in clubs can be fun (although, maybe not so much in Cleveland).

 

[OutlawImmortal]

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sympathy for Wiggy? what's the world coming to...?

We're talking about a guy who lives in fear of smog, it's too easy lol.

 

[bksballer89]

With as good as players are at shooting these days... taking 3 pointers just makes too much sense.

If your team takes 100 2 pointers and shoots 55% (a ridiculously good 2-pt %)... and my teams takes 100 3 pointers.... we only have to shoot 37% to beat you (a reasonable 3-pt % these days).

So reasonable that only 4 teams shot 37% or higher last year?

 

[trojanfan12]

So reasonable that only 4 teams shot 37% or higher last year?

Oh those pesky facts. How Cavs fans must hate them.

 

[Heatles84]

Please let this be in reference to Jordan Crawford possibly coming to Miami.

 

[bksballer89]

Please let this be in reference to Jordan Crawford possibly coming to Miami.

Interesting. Now you about to have me check all the Heat writers twitter account

 

[bksballer89]

Please let this be in reference to Jordan Crawford possibly coming to Miami.

I honestly can't see them trading Chalmers at this point. Wouldn't make sense because we don't have a rel backup PG on the roster....and he is the closest we got.

 

[Heatles84]

I honestly can't see them trading Chalmers at this point. Wouldn't make sense because we don't have a rel backup PG on the roster....and he is the closest we got.

I'm guessing they think Wade could handle some of the PG duties as well as Tyler Johnson if they like him enough.

 

[bksballer89]

I'm guessing they think Wade could handle some of the PG duties as well as Tyler Johnson if they like him enough.

A Crawford move honestly makes no sense. We already have Gerald Green who is the backup SG which basically means Winslow would be a bench warmer all year as Green move to backup SF as Crawford would backup Wade. Not a fan

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

A Crawford move honestly makes no sense. We already have Gerald Green who is the backup SG which basically means Winslow would be a bench warmer all year as Green move to backup SF as Crawford would backup Wade. Not a fan

I heard the names McRoberts and Bird being thrown around for Crawford, which I am very much against.
I'd be ok with Chalmers for Crawford, but don't see it really happening.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Yeah, I've been a little bit too hard on the guy, at least he attempts to back up his arguments unlike some other people who post 1 sentence consisting of "that's good" or "that's bad". *cough* Hambombs *cough*.

He knows his Sports when he's not trolling.

I like Ham too...lol

 

[bksballer89]

Please let this be in reference to Jordan Crawford possibly coming to Miami.

Well here's your answer to the Chalmers tweet

 

[wildturkey]

Well here's your answer to the Chalmers tweet

I like to pretend that was taken at Burning Man

 

[OutlawImmortal]

He knows his Sports when he's not trolling.

I like Ham too...lol

You like everyone lol.

 

[gordontrue]

So reasonable that only 4 teams shot 37% or higher last year?

More reasonable than shooting 55% from the field. 37% is what you would have to shoot from 3 to beat a team shooting 55% from the field from 2.

The #1 team in fg% last year was at 47%. Of course that percentage is brought down be 3 point attempts... and there are a lot of complex factors like shot selection, defense, etc.

The overall point is that 3 point shots are becoming more and more mathematically valuable as guys get better at shooting.