bbwvfan
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The post I quoted of you was your first post on this topic. Before that the discussion was about ESPN bias. Don't get mad because someone calls you on your bullshit.
Well… the original post was about A&M not willing to play UT in a bowl game. The thread has been hijacked.
DC posted that he felt the SEC was considered no different than other major conferences before media, ESPN and the BCS affected its perception. A whole lot of truth there.
My first response to you was this…
Why do you feel the need to give us a history lesson?
You have a point… although the SEC on ESPN is promoted throughout each telecast of SEC teams, the nationwide sports channel has no interest in promoting the conference.
Which BCS game had the lowest TV ratings? And, you come on here and try and educate us that the common fan had nothing to do with the change to the playoff format… too funny!
Many voices of concern about the affect of ESPN's partnership with the SEC.
Bo Pelini on ESPN?s marriage to the SEC: ?I don?t think that kind of relationship is good for college football.? | CollegeFootballTalk
“I don’t think that kind of relationship is good for college football. That’s just my opinion,” Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini said Monday. “Anytime you have a relationship with somebody, you have a partnership, you are supposed to be neutral. It’s pretty hard to stay neutral in that situation.”
The Worldwide Cheerleader: ESPN and the College Football Playoff | Rolling Stone
Of the current power imbalance in college football that favors the SEC he said, as if to refute ESPN's aforementioned stake, "That's great for the SEC…That's great for the SEC Network…" But the SEC Network is ESPN. Even defenses of the network end up making the case against it.
I asked which BCS game had the lowest rating?
As I showed you in my next post… it was the Clemson vs WVU game…
The outcry from fans has reached a fever pitch in light of sagging bowl television ratings, which have declined 37 percent since 1998, the first year of the BCS. The lopsided national championship game last month drew a 14.0 rating — the third-worst in the BCS era — and West Virginia's 70-33 rout of Clemson in the Orange Bowl was the least-watched BCS game ever.
Seriously? You have to ask the following…
We are talking about National Championships. Who gives a crap if Clemson and WVU was the lowest rated bcs bowl game? Why would I even compare that to the NC, and obviously it has nothing to do with.
We were talking about the media, ESPN and the BCS… and how those factors affected the perception of the SEC. You gave us a history lesson of the BCS NCG… which I agree has had a major impact on the SEC's reputation. But, the BCS includes the BCS bowls… it is not just the BCS NCG.
ESPN cares very much that the Orange Bowl had the lowest rating in the history of the BCS. Couple this development with the controversy and poor ratings from the BCS NCG, and ESPN was ready to help initiate change. ESPN is a business that relies on ratings to increase revenue. I thought you said you worked in small business. Don't you understand how this works?
Look through this thread, I have clearly distinguished between the BCS and the BCS NCG. While you may not do so yourself, I feel it reduces the confusion to do otherwise.
The LSU vs Alabama rematch was not the 3rd lowest of all bowl games as you seem to be claiming with your underlined part, it was just the 3rd lowest of the national championship games - the list I gave you.
You really must be a dumbass. How the hell you get me claiming the LSU vs Bama rematch was the 3rd lowest of all bowl games is quite disconcerting. This was my quote…
The outcry from fans has reached a fever pitch in light of sagging bowl television ratings, which have declined 37 percent since 1998, the first year of the BCS. The lopsided national championship game last month drew a 14.0 rating — the third-worst in the BCS era — and West Virginia's 70-33 rout of Clemson in the Orange Bowl was the least-watched BCS game ever.
"We can't afford to be tone-deaf," Benson said. "We need to listen to the fans, and there's a strong undercurrent."
The underlined was clearly about Clemson and WVU only. No other way to interpret it. Sorry…
You were the one who said you were going to "let is slide" that the SEC was pushing for a plus 1. I merely pointed out that the plus 1 is what we have today, which you obviously didn't know when you decided to "let it slide" by pointing it out.
Maybe there is some confusion here. There were different Plus 1 models. The original Plus 1 involved teams playing their BCS bowl games, and a post bowl ranking system would determine the top 2 teams to play for the NC.
Why an unseeded plus-one model won't work as a college football playoff - ESPN
For that reason, it had been assumed until very recently that the "unseeded plus-one" would be the next step for college football's postseason. In this model, conference champions would be assigned to their designated bowl spots (Big Ten and Pac-12 to Rose, SEC to Sugar, Big 12 to Fiesta, ACC to Orange); the remaining spots would be filled through a selection process; all bowl games would be played; then the final BCS standings would be run after the bowls. The top two teams would play in the national championship game a week later.
To be honest, I did not know that Slive's preference was for a seeded Plus 1 until I recently looked it up. My bad…