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That Gwynn has more HR than Cobb, but Cobbs slugging was 60 points higher and lead the league in Slugging 8 times.



Gwynn was singles hitter I would wager Cobb has twice as many extra base hits.
 

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Yes, so he's saying that Cobb is an amazing value in this format because his power isn't accounted for in the limitations.

I don't care. The limitations are a fun idea other then having 6 RPs. Just explaining what he's getting at.
 

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Yes, so he's saying that Cobb is an amazing value in this format because his power isn't accounted for in the limitations.

I don't care. The limitations are a fun idea other then having 6 RPs. Just explaining what he's getting at.



But Cobb always has value, he's almost always a first round pick, I think Milky Milk is overthinking this one.
 

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Yes, so he's saying that Cobb is an amazing value in this format because his power isn't accounted for in the limitations.

I don't care. The limitations are a fun idea other then having 6 RPs. Just explaining what he's getting at.



Oh and we will roll with 4 relievers.
 

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But Cobb always has value, he's almost always a first round pick, I think Milky Milk is overthinking this one.

Not at all just pointing out the loophole in this draft. Hoping for it to close before we start.

But I will attempt to make a good post to show what I mean later when I have a computer to use. Hate arguing on a cell phone.
 

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Only 4 relievers?

Sold, I'm in!
 

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There is a difference between a ty Cobb and a tony Gwynn. We know the type of player tony Gwynn is. His lack of home runs would be accounted for. But TY cobb’s Lack of home runs is like saying let’s take one of the best power hitters of his time and get him for nothing.

If we are doing pre 1930 then there is no reason to not do post 2005 and current. I mean it’s just as much of a mystery and just as much cheating.

I’ve never considered Cobb a power hitter. A great extra base hitter is different in the pre’s but you arent finding a loophole. Cobb is a 1st rounder in every single draft and dont expect that to change
 

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Not at all just pointing out the loophole in this draft. Hoping for it to close before we start.

But I will attempt to make a good post to show what I mean later when I have a computer to use. Hate arguing on a cell phone.


Just stick to stupid sayings and bad drafting!
 

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I wish you guys would quit name dropping...
 

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you realize if we go in as is ... you need at least 5 batters who are 200 or less HRs

from 1871-1930 only 3 Players had over 200 HRs

from 1871-1940 17 players had over 200(includes the 3 and others who were already accumulating)


from 1871-1950 it jumps to 29

and clearly now, it i

we are talking too many Greats that didn't reach 200 HRs entirely because of when they played...

in football drafts if we talk about sacks, we were not allowed to draft players like Carl Eller

in basketball drafts if we had 3 pointers as a stat, is it fair to draft Jerry West??


so why is it ok here... Just because some of you guys like Old baseball players more??


you are going to see it throughout the draft that owners will cheat their ways out of Home run hitters by taking Old players...


and no, the BA restriction doesn't help, it really just makes things worse... because now you are punishing HR hitters for being BA guys... which also makes the non-.300 BA hr hitters more valuable..
 

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you realize if we go in as is ... you need at least 5 batters who are 200 or less HRs

from 1871-1930 only 3 Players had over 200 HRs

from 1871-1940 17 players had over 200(includes the 3 and others who were already accumulating)


from 1871-1950 it jumps to 29

and clearly now, it i

we are talking too many Greats that didn't reach 200 HRs entirely because of when they played...

in football drafts if we talk about sacks, we were not allowed to draft players like Carl Eller

in basketball drafts if we had 3 pointers as a stat, is it fair to draft Jerry West??


so why is it ok here... Just because some of you guys like Old baseball players more??


you are going to see it throughout the draft that owners will cheat their ways out of Home run hitters by taking Old players...


and no, the BA restriction doesn't help, it really just makes things worse... because now you are punishing HR hitters for being BA guys... which also makes the non-.300 BA hr hitters more valuable..


I'll have to read the rest of this tomorrow, my eyes are tired from the first 100 pages...
 

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you realize if we go in as is ... you need at least 5 batters who are 200 or less HRs

from 1871-1930 only 3 Players had over 200 HRs

from 1871-1940 17 players had over 200(includes the 3 and others who were already accumulating)


from 1871-1950 it jumps to 29

and clearly now, it i

we are talking too many Greats that didn't reach 200 HRs entirely because of when they played...

in football drafts if we talk about sacks, we were not allowed to draft players like Carl Eller

in basketball drafts if we had 3 pointers as a stat, is it fair to draft Jerry West??


so why is it ok here... Just because some of you guys like Old baseball players more??


you are going to see it throughout the draft that owners will cheat their ways out of Home run hitters by taking Old players...


and no, the BA restriction doesn't help, it really just makes things worse... because now you are punishing HR hitters for being BA guys... which also makes the non-.300 BA hr hitters more valuable..



I agree with a portion of this, this will be a problem but your point about Cobb still didn't make sense.

The points regarding football and basketball don't work either, we know the number Eller had, it's unofficial but it's there, also not keeping track of stats or the stat not being a rule isn't the same as the stat being affected by era.

But I do agree now we need to change some things.
 

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I agree with a portion of this, this will be a problem but your point about Cobb still didn't make sense.

The points regarding football and basketball don't work either, we know the number Eller had, it's unofficial but it's there, also not keeping track of stats or the stat not being a rule isn't the same as the stat being affected by era.

But I do agree now we need to change some things.

You cant cheat if everyone knows the rules!
 

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I agree with a portion of this, this will be a problem but your point about Cobb still didn't make sense.

The points regarding football and basketball don't work either, we know the number Eller had, it's unofficial but it's there, also not keeping track of stats or the stat not being a rule isn't the same as the stat being affected by era.

But I do agree now we need to change some things.


the cobb point was part of it... and it does make sense... the point was simply that he has only 117 HRs... that made him even more valuable than normal... comparing him with Gwynn, was just to show the eras being so different since they had similar HR numbers... as the format took players like Gwynn into account since we know they have no power...
 

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you realize if we go in as is ... you need at least 5 batters who are 200 or less HRs

from 1871-1930 only 3 Players had over 200 HRs

from 1871-1940 17 players had over 200(includes the 3 and others who were already accumulating)


from 1871-1950 it jumps to 29

and clearly now, it i

we are talking too many Greats that didn't reach 200 HRs entirely because of when they played...

in football drafts if we talk about sacks, we were not allowed to draft players like Carl Eller

in basketball drafts if we had 3 pointers as a stat, is it fair to draft Jerry West??


so why is it ok here... Just because some of you guys like Old baseball players more??


you are going to see it throughout the draft that owners will cheat their ways out of Home run hitters by taking Old players...


and no, the BA restriction doesn't help, it really just makes things worse... because now you are punishing HR hitters for being BA guys... which also makes the non-.300 BA hr hitters more valuable..
There's no way I'm reading this shit:nono:
 

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I like that I could sit back and watch Milk do his thing on the deadball era.
 
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