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The disaster of Kirill Kabanov

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This is a little long, but if you like disaster stories...

For those not in the know, Kabanov was considered an elite prospect, projecting to go in the top 5 of this year's draft, possibly even 1st overall. Kabanov is Russian but decided to play this year in the CHL to prove his commitment to playing in North America, even tho it meant his being barred from the KHL for three years. World class talent. The occasional Kovalchuk and Ovechkin comparisons were bandied about. The next Russian star.

That was before this season.

He started the year with a bad wrist injury which kept him out of the lineup until February. During this time he failed to show up at some of the team meetings and club functions. When he rejoined the team, his team mates regarded him with little esteem, later calling him a cancer in the locker room. He missed the team bus a couple of times. The fit hit the shan shortly before the playoffs when on a particularly lazy game from Kabanov the team captain quite visibly ripped him a new one on the bench. Kabanov did not see the ice for the rest of the second period and did not come out with the team for the third. Later it was announced that Kabanov would not be playing for the Moncton Wildcats for the rest of the season.

So he returned to Russia to play in the U-18's. There, he would become the center of controversy after being rejected by the Russian squad for disciplinary reasons. "I removed him from the team because we thought Kabanov would help us, but he brought only confusion to the team," Vasiliev told Sovietsky Sport. "Kabanov came and thought 'Here I am, a star from Canada, who will save all.' But it's the team that wins rather than an individual player."

Kabanov's agent has been his father, who is regarded quite deservedly as another Carl Lindros. Kabanov Sr.'s dealings with his son's teams and the media have left much to be desired and he has clearly not managed his son's career very well. Recently they hired J.P. Barry, arguably the most respected agent in the hockey world, to clean up Kirill's image. Barry was helping get Kabanov back into hockey's good graces until today, three weeks before the draft, when Barry announced he was dropping Kabanov as a client.

Also, where Kabanov will play next year is most uncertain, as his CHL participation locks him out of the AHL and KHL, and while Moncton retains his rights in juniors, they are not eager to welcome him back into the fold.

So if your team is interested in rolling the dice on a potential star player or a potential career headache, draft Kirill Kabanov in the second round. I really don't see anyone risking it in the first, no matter how much talent he has.
 
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No worries, Flames currently don't have a draft pick until round 3 :mad:
 

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I can absolutely see the Caps as the team that takes him on. Maybe he'll grow up and he's definitely got the talent, but right now this kid's got more red flags than China. I've never seen anything like it.
 

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until today, three weeks before the draft, when Barry announced he was dropping Kabanov as a client.

I knew the story until this part. How fucked up is this kid?
Burned the CHL, burned the KHL, ineligible for the AHL, what's left?


don't think so in the #25 spot, maybe #55?
 

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ya thats pretty rough.. i guess the only hope for him is that someone takes him and tries him in the NHL? maybe one of the awful teams that need a spark will take him
 

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AJ you might not like this idea, but how about the B's? They have a plethora of picks in this year's draft (two in the second round, correct?), they are tight on cap space, and they desperately need offense. If the punk's still available towards the end of the second, snag him. Then have a little talk. Tell him if he screws around once, Chara will rip off his limbs. If he screws up twice, he's cut from the team. Seeya.

It's worth a shot.
 

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Lol. In the second round the B's draft 32nd and 45th. With two first rounders as well, the B's do have the luxury of potentially "wasting" a draft pick on the kid. I hadn't thought of it in those terms.

I think you're onto something. Shit.
 

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I knew the story until this part. How fucked up is this kid?
Burned the CHL, burned the KHL, ineligible for the AHL, what's left?


don't think so in the #25 spot, maybe #55?

Yeah I didn't know the part about Barry dropping him either. Until I read that I thought there might still be hope for him. In fairness to Kirill I suspect his father was probably the reason Barry dropped him moreso than the younger Kabanov.

The article makes a slight error. It was actually game 1 of the playoffs that his captain freaked at him on the bench after their opponents scored a PP goal with him in the box. Another Wildcat player also went to the penalty box to give him an earful immediately after the penalty was taken. I also heard rumors from Wildcat fans that he and his father were seen in the parking lot having what appeared to be a very heated conversation in Russian. Sounds like a rough night for the kid.

My Sea Dogs traded for the #1 overall pick in the CHL import draft last year as well as the #4 pick. They passed on Kabanov both times which at the time really disappointed me, especially when the rival Wildcats picked him up with the #7 pick. In hindsight I'm very glad they chose not to take Kabonov.

In fairness he is only 17. I suspect a team will take a chance on him. Washington picks 22nd I believe and they are the only team I can see possibly taking him with their 1st pick. He's been compared to Ovechkin not only for his skills but his personality as well. Maybe the caps will think the strong Russian influence from Ovie among others can steer him in the right path.

Teams that I believe have 2 first rounders are Boston, Phoenix, and Atlanta. I could see 1 of those teams taking a chance with their 2nd pick. If he cleans up his act and plays to his potential he could end up being exactly what the Coyotes franchise needs to draw the fans on a consistent basis.
 

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i mean...he's 17. that's plenty of time left to correct some minor issues. i kinda feel for him if he got reemed out. i mean, once again, 17. is there a youtube of the freak out??
 

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he looks...not russian? looks very american actually.
 

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Tell him if he screws around once, Chara will rip off his limbs. If he screws up twice, he's cut from the team.

He remains on the team even after being limbless? That doesn't say much for Boston's offense, does it. ;)
 

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i mean...he's 17. that's plenty of time left to correct some minor issues. i kinda feel for him if he got reemed out. i mean, once again, 17. is there a youtube of the freak out??

I don't believe there is a video. I had checked for one on the Wildcats board a couple of months ago when it had happened. From the sounds of it, it was quite animated and everyone in the building could see what was going on. It wasn't just the bad penalty that had some of his teammates upset but apparently when he left the box he had a smirk on his face as he skated back to the bench that ticked off a few of his teammates. From the sounds of things, its something that had been building up for a while and this incident was just the last straw. That being said, not everyone had turned on him. A few of his teammates gave him a pat on the back after the lashing and some people were just as critical of his captain (Columbus draft pick David Savard), if not moreso, for publicly humiliating him on the bench in front of the hometown fans.
 
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If Boston gets Hall/Seguin and Kabanov... damn. That's a lot of high-end potential in one draft.
 

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Here's a pretty well thought out post in defense of Kabonov on the Wildcats board by one of their more knowledgable and (relatively unbiased) posters in response to a fellow fan that said not to welcome him back next year:

"Ugh .... everybody is dying to see this kid fail.

He came here in August and waited patiently to play in October ... he was a gentleman and very approachable by the fans ... he spoke to everybody as if they were his good friends ... a very good ambassador for the team.

The Wildcats built him up to be the great conquering hero ... he so badly wanted to show the fans what he could do.

He suffered through the waiting period until he finally got the IIHF approval to play in Moncton. He got his chance to play and was a very exciting player ... he had a lot to learn about the NA game but he was worth the pick we used on him. Then he got injured ... or re-injured ... a huge set back for him. He was sent home to enjoy Xmas with his family and he returned with the same positive, upbeat attitude ... still a great team ambassador.

He was in Moncton for pre-season and the entire regular season ... with the exception of the games he was out of the country for during his surgery and trip back home. He played in 22 of our 68 regular season games ... in the stands watching for probably 40 of them ... travelling with the team ... practicing but not playing.

Playoffs came along ... he played game 1 ... in game 1 he had a lapse in judgement that cost the team a goal ... and got pretty embarassed by the CHL Dman of the Year in front of a large crowd at the Coliseum ... who knows what else was said between periods.

He and his Father allowed all that mounting frustration that began building in August to get to them ... and they made a poor decision. Kirill Kabanov has since openly admitted that was a bad decision ... and he was influenced by his advisers ... but he blames himself for it.

He runs off to the U-18 ... invited by the RIHF ... they send him home after a few days for being difficult to get along with ... even though they told him back in August that if he pushed the IIHF to let him play in Moncton that they'd blackball him from future RIHF teams. So the RIHF found an opportunity to embarass the kid for turning his back on them and the KHL. All because two days in a row he wore a white helmet ... and helped himself to the Coach's peanuts.

The kid has faced nothing but roadblocks ... frustrations on top of frustrations ... but the entire time he was here in Moncton he was nothing but a fine young man that made himself available to everybody that wanted to say hello ... while he sat out waiting for his chance to play. He had a weak moment in a playoff game that did not cost us a loss ... and then probably lost his cool with the help of his Father ... and left the team.

I am 100% behind having this kid back in Moncton ... he has faced nothing but crap from everybody that wants to see him fail because he once was thought to be as good as the CHL golden boy Taylor Hall ... people are happy to see a Russian fall from grace. But so much of it is just the media looking for another story they can write about Kabanov.

So now this one ... what does Barry say Kabanov did ? Nothing ... but everybody assumes it is bad. Do you think it might be on account of the Father ?

So Jimmy .... please lay out "all of the drama" of the past 12 months that you think should cause the Wildcats to cut this kid loose ? The kid had one weak moment as a Wildcat.

If you ask me ... I'd rather cut a kid like Scott Trask loose for his trashy hit on Aiden Kelly than I would Kabanov. Kabanov made one mistake on the ice as a Wildcat ... just one."
 
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