The Cubs are Officially the Worst Team in Baseball

[navamind]

That was a stupid firing "mutual decision". I don't think the Cubs are fucked by any means, but they're not getting a better manager. I don't think Maddon had anything to do with the Cubs falling apart the last two seasons.

 

[navamind]

That 2016 Chicago Cub pitching was on a totally different level than the 2017-2019 teams. No manager was going to duplicate those results imo.

yeah, that pitching staff overachieved big time. that was just an amazing defensive team.

 

[Clayton]

yeah, that pitching staff overachieved big time. that was just an amazing defensive team.

I don't know about all that but Hendricks had a nutty year and Lester was on top of his game. It basically gave them 3 aces

 

[navamind]

I don't know about all that but Hendricks had a nutty year and Lester was on top of his game. It basically gave them 3 aces

I think the defense played a pretty big role in that. The Cubs had a 3.15 ERA, but their FIP (3.77) and xFIP (3.74) were considerably worse (though they're still quite good). The Cubs had a .255 BABIP allowed. The second closest staff was the Blue Jays... at .282. Cubs were also first among MLB teams in UZR, DRS and Defensive Efficiency. I think they had a really good pitching staff, but I think that defense elevated it to being great/historically good. Baez, Heyward and Russell were outstanding defensive players. Bryant and Rizzo were no slouches either.

 

[broncosmitty]

They tried that before with McClendon and truthfully that might their only option.

They should hire Legendary Lloyd again.


Get him the hell away from Tigers hitters.

 

[broncosmitty]

Congrats to Mike Trout on finally getting a manager.

 

[steelerssb]

Man...imagine what would happen if Cleveland had won that Series and the Cubs blew all that talent

 

[steelerssb]

But firing Clint Hurdle was stupid too. What exactly was he supposed to do with that roster, and injuries?

He might have had a better shot if the team still had Austin Meadows and Tyler Glasnow, and no Chris Archer.

I liked Hurdle but he had go. Going from 2.5 out to a mega collapse that saw players fighting in the dugout and not knowing how to manage a lineup/bullpen did him in. Doesn't help that him and his staff were the ones who couldn't develop guys like Cole and Glasnow. It was just time for both sides to have a change of scenery.

It's a shame that, while I think they need sweeping changes, this was basically done to scapegoat him because he was far from their biggest problem. While I think both sides are better off moving on this won't make much of a difference.

 

[Rod Freakin' Dangerfield]

Congrats to Mike Trout on finally getting a manager.

 

[navamind]