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The thing I never get about dean , we still got Moses , yet he still gripes about it and the players he says were better aren’t

The only thing good about that draft was Moses who I wanted in round 2. Wait a minute Lawrence and Jackson aren't better players than Murphy and Long? LMFAO!!!
 

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The only thing good about that draft was Moses who I wanted in round 2. Wait a minute Lawrence and Jackson aren't better players than Murphy and Long? LMFAO!!!
lawrence was OFF THE BOARD DEAN when the skins drafted TM in round 2 . anyone picked behind TM other then JG is not BETTER , maybe EQUAL , but not better

jackson was the 18th best OG this last season . you could make the feeble case he might be better however no one drafted after long had as good a career as long is still having
 

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lawrence was OFF THE BOARD DEAN when the skins drafted TM in round 2 . anyone picked behind TM other then JG is not BETTER , maybe EQUAL , but not better

jackson was the 18th best OG this last season . you could make the feeble case he might be better however no one drafted after long had as good a career as long is still having

No we traded down to draft Murphy and passed on Lawrence to the Cowboys. To date Jackson has had a better career than Long. Wasn't Long a backup last year for a bad Jets team? Cmon dude we screwed up in that draft except for Moses.
 

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No we traded down to draft Murphy and passed on Lawrence to the Cowboys. To date Jackson has had a better career than Long. Wasn't Long a backup last year for a bad Jets team? Cmon dude we screwed up in that draft except for Moses.
he was the starter , and again lawrence was off the board trade down or not
 

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The only thing good about that draft was Moses who I wanted in round 2. Wait a minute Lawrence and Jackson aren't better players than Murphy and Long? LMFAO!!!

1- if you drafted Moses in round 2, like you wanted, we still would not have got Lawrence.

2- you would have got Moses and Jackson.

3- Moses, Long, and Murphy>Moses and Jackson (what you actually advocated for)


Side point...Lawrence is not reliable. Between suspensions and injuries, he hasn’t done that much except for one season.
 

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Wrong!!! Dallas traded with us to take Lawrence.
that is true and we felt the extra picks were better for the team and as we know lawrence had one good season , not much better then TM . and if we did what you wanted we would have over drafted moses .
 

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that is true and we felt the extra picks were better for the team and as we know lawrence had one good season , not much better then TM . and if we did what you wanted we would have over drafted moses .


not much better? What?
 

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not much better? What?
exactly the guys you are hyping as someone we could have had arent that much better . if at all . getting TM and moses in that draft and add long and i say they picked well .

the FO not offering the contract TM got was foolish as anderson is by far the worse player
 

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exactly the guys you are hyping as someone we could have had arent that much better . if at all . getting TM and moses in that draft and add long and i say they picked well .

the FO not offering the contract TM got was foolish as anderson is by far the worse player

I agree with you that Anderson has done crap. But to say Lawrence is just a little better than Murphy is far fetched. Long is a below average o line man. Tm is an average player borderline starter for a bad team.
 

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I agree with you that Anderson has done crap. But to say Lawrence is just a little better than Murphy is far fetched. Long is a below average o line man. Tm is an average player borderline starter for a bad team.
both have exceeded the norm for laying in the league . long is a guy who has started at 2 positions in the NFL , that alone makes him avg

TM has started a bunch of games in the NFL again exceeding the norm

lawrence has had what , a good season with more to come ? and a high contract ?

both have played about the same amount of games lawrence has 15 more career sacks while TM missed a year
 
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