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The 2024-2025 Los Angeles Rams Draft and FA Thread.

shopson67

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My personal preferences were 5 and 8 where we get someone back in return. That way, we can focus on other positions of need instead of having to worry about drafting a wide receiver as well.

Those two options coming back are both sketchy though. Adams is nearing washed status (and could be cut anyway) and Metchie hasn't impressed much and is probably best as a slot but doesn't have much burst.
 

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The Rams should really stop FAFO and sign Jackson to a new contract. Or, they can use the franchise tag and keep him that way. The latter is going to cost the Rams a bit more so maybe they should just negotiate the new deal and get it done. BTW, the roster bonus for Kupp isn;t due until March 17.

 

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This is what I was talking about with Stafford, the lack of guaranteed money is a crap excuse. He signed the deal knowing this was the case, but no, he needs more. This is the same garbage Jalen Ramsay pulled on us. You signed a deal knowing how it worked, honor it.
How much of his salary is guaranteed for the 2025 season? what part of that 49 mil is guaranteed, that is the big question. If Stafford wants to make more then that's a different story than wanting the current salary a guarantee. You know how similar rumors sparked during the season only for nothing to really happen.
 

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How much of his salary is guaranteed for the 2025 season? what part of that 49 mil is guaranteed, that is the big question. If Stafford wants to make more then that's a different story than wanting the current salary a guarantee. You know how similar rumors sparked during the season only for nothing to really happen.
From what I understand, it's both. He wants more money and especially more guaranteed money. The 49mil is the cap hit, but he actually makes about 31mil. The cap hit is 49mil because we handed him 63mil when he signed the contract and spead the hit over the contract. Not sure how much is guaranteed this year and next.
He's made over 350mil in his career, how about being like Brady and not killing our salary cap for personal gain? Does he want to win? Or just get paid? I also don't want us to push any big money to 2027 when we are scheduled to have the most cap room in the NFL.
 

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This might be good news for the Rams. I say "might be" because the increase in the cap space seems to encourage Snead and Demoff to do what they once again have done with these "max" contracts (Kupps and Stafford's contracts) they have been giving players that eventually comes back to bite us. I don't know when they are going to stop doing this but they have done it again with both Kupp and Stafford. In the meantime, they will FAFO and lose a guy like Alaric Jackson putting us in yet another conundrum!

 

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From what I understand, it's both. He wants more money and especially more guaranteed money. The 49mil is the cap hit, but he actually makes about 31mil. The cap hit is 49mil because we handed him 63mil when he signed the contract and spead the hit over the contract. Not sure how much is guaranteed this year and next.
He's made over 350mil in his career, how about being like Brady and not killing our salary cap for personal gain? Does he want to win? Or just get paid? I also don't want us to push any big money to 2027 when we are scheduled to have the most cap room in the NFL.
I hate when players agree to a contract, and then years later, want to renegotiate said contract when they still have 2+ years on the contract.

He felt it was fair when he signed it. He’s not some young QB who has outplayed his contract. He’s older and likely to see more injuries the more he keeps playing ( which is precisely why he wants more guaranteed money ).

The Rams structured it that way for that reason.

You don’t see Mahomes crying about restructuring his contract for more money, and that guy has definitely outplayed his contract.

As much as I hate Brady because he’s a cheater ( like his former coach ), I respect the fact that he always took less so the team could get better.

Now, we can argue the Pats made up the difference in other ways ( again, skirting the laws ), but that’s another story for another day.
 

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I hate when players agree to a contract, and then years later, want to renegotiate said contract when they still have 2+ years on the contract.

He felt it was fair when he signed it. He’s not some young QB who has outplayed his contract. He’s older and likely to see more injuries the more he keeps playing ( which is precisely why he wants more guaranteed money ).

The Rams structured it that way for that reason.

You don’t see Mahomes crying about restructuring his contract for more money, and that guy has definitely outplayed his contract.

As much as I hate Brady because he’s a cheater ( like his former coach ), I respect the fact that he always took less so the team could get better.

Now, we can argue the Pats made up the difference in other ways ( again, skirting the laws ), but that’s another story for another day.
Exactly!!! Stafford certainly didn't seem to have a problem with the contract when we handed him the 60+ million dollar signing bonus, did he?
 

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All fair points.

I just struggle with seeing how the Rams will remain competitive with someone else at QB other than Stafford. He knows the offense inside & out.
 

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From what I understand, it's both. He wants more money and especially more guaranteed money. The 49mil is the cap hit, but he actually makes about 31mil. The cap hit is 49mil because we handed him 63mil when he signed the contract and spead the hit over the contract. Not sure how much is guaranteed this year and next.
He's made over 350mil in his career, how about being like Brady and not killing our salary cap for personal gain? Does he want to win? Or just get paid? I also don't want us to push any big money to 2027 when we are scheduled to have the most cap room in the NFL.
I totally forgot about the part of the 63mil spread over the hit.
 

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From what I understand, it's both. He wants more money and especially more guaranteed money. The 49mil is the cap hit, but he actually makes about 31mil. The cap hit is 49mil because we handed him 63mil when he signed the contract and spead the hit over the contract. Not sure how much is guaranteed this year and next.
He's made over 350mil in his career, how about being like Brady and not killing our salary cap for personal gain? Does he want to win? Or just get paid? I also don't want us to push any big money to 2027 when we are scheduled to have the most cap room in the NFL.

Brady comparison doesn't make sense, since he wasn't the major breadwinner in his own household. Giselle's net worth is double Brady's.

With the cap going up considerably, there is no need to make this confrontational. Give him a new 2 year deal (or 3 with a voidable/nonguaranteed 3rd year) to restructure. his contract. Rams need him for at least the next 2 seasons IMO, seems low risk at this point.
 

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Brady comparison doesn't make sense, since he wasn't the major breadwinner in his own household. Giselle's net worth is double Brady's.

With the cap going up considerably, there is no need to make this confrontational. Give him a new 2 year deal (or 3 with a voidable/nonguaranteed 3rd year) to restructure. his contract. Rams need him for at least the next 2 seasons IMO, seems low risk at this point.
Stafford has made over 350 million in the NFL alone. He also makes a fortune doing advertising. Brady taking less had little to do with his ex wife, he wanted to win and he knew that if he takes up a ton of the cap room they couldn't get the guys they wanted/needed to stay a Super Bowl caliber team. Stafford already is #5 in the NFL as far as his cap hit this season at just under 50mil, if we give him a new deal, it might slightly lessen the hit now, but will certainly cut into our cap room in 2027, which we don't need. Speaking of wives, that's another reason to get rid of Stafford. His loud mouth bimbo wife doesn't help his case, if anything, it hurts him.

Also, Brady knew that he would make a fortune after his playing days were over and there's no reason Stafford won't do the same. A network will throw MILLIONS at him to be an announcer, just like Brady.

Bottom line, you made a deal, be a man and live with it. Or how about this, give back half of the 60 mil signing bonus since he's only through half of the contract. Are we supposed to give him another huge signing bonus and HOPE he doesn't pull this same crap next year if he has a good season?
 

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Stafford has made over 350 million in the NFL alone. He also makes a fortune doing advertising. Brady taking less had little to do with his ex wife, he wanted to win and he knew that if he takes up a ton of the cap room they couldn't get the guys they wanted/needed to stay a Super Bowl caliber team. Stafford already is #5 in the NFL as far as his cap hit this season at just under 50mil, if we give him a new deal, it might slightly lessen the hit now, but will certainly cut into our cap room in 2027, which we don't need. Speaking of wives, that's another reason to get rid of Stafford. His loud mouth bimbo wife doesn't help his case, if anything, it hurts him.

Also, Brady knew that he would make a fortune after his playing days were over and there's no reason Stafford won't do the same. A network will throw MILLIONS at him to be an announcer, just like Brady.

Bottom line, you made a deal, be a man and live with it. Or how about this, give back half of the 60 mil signing bonus since he's only through half of the contract. Are we supposed to give him another huge signing bonus and HOPE he doesn't pull this same crap next year if he has a good season?

Signing bonuses are simply part of the contract pulled forward, often for the benefit of the club for cap maneuverability.

The Brady stuff is simply ridiculous. Nobody is giving discounts in today's professional sports unless they lack leverage.

Who do you think the Rams are getting at QB if they trade Stafford? It will be some retread at best that will have the Rams struggle and miss the playoffs. They still won't be in any better position to add a young QB this year (or next, unless said retread QB REALLY tanks the team this year).
 

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Signing bonuses are simply part of the contract pulled forward, often for the benefit of the club for cap maneuverability.

The Brady stuff is simply ridiculous. Nobody is giving discounts in today's professional sports unless they lack leverage.

Who do you think the Rams are getting at QB if they trade Stafford? It will be some retread at best that will have the Rams struggle and miss the playoffs. They still won't be in any better position to add a young QB this year (or next, unless said retread QB REALLY tanks the team this year).
First, he's only played through half of his contract. That signing bonus is still spread 15 mil each of the next two years and is currently the #5 highest cap hit in the NFL.
Second, the Brady stuff isn't ridiculous, especially for a 37 year old QB who can barely complete a deep pass without completely underthrowing them. Let's see how he'd do behind an oline like the NY Giants where he'd have little to no time to see the field. He'd get crushed and wouldn't last the season.

As for who to get... Hell, if we had to, we could go with Jimmy G for a season. It wouldn't be ideal, but he looked pretty damn good running our offense in the last week of the season. Even though I can't stand Aaron Rodgers, if he could leave his ego at the door and just play football, he could do VERY well in our offense. He still has the arm, the accuracy and his mobility got better as last season went on. Obviously, he would be for two years maximum, and we could develop a guy like McCord who we should draft in April.
 

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First, he's only played through half of his contract. That signing bonus is still spread 15 mil each of the next two years and is currently the #5 highest cap hit in the NFL.
Second, the Brady stuff isn't ridiculous, especially for a 37 year old QB who can barely complete a deep pass without completely underthrowing them. Let's see how he'd do behind an oline like the NY Giants where he'd have little to no time to see the field. He'd get crushed and wouldn't last the season.

As for who to get... Hell, if we had to, we could go with Jimmy G for a season. It wouldn't be ideal, but he looked pretty damn good running our offense in the last week of the season. Even though I can't stand Aaron Rodgers, if he could leave his ego at the door and just play football, he could do VERY well in our offense. He still has the arm, the accuracy and his mobility got better as last season went on. Obviously, he would be for two years maximum, and we could develop a guy like McCord who we should draft in April.

I'm all for McCord, but it remains to be seen if the Rams can get him in the draft. The only to guarantee that is to overdraft him, and even that is a tough read right now.

One game is not going to sell me on Jimmy G. He's an adequate back up, but as a starter we're back to tanking talk IMO (but maybe not enough to tank properly). I'll take Stafford over ARod any day. ARod is a mess personally and professionally and the Jets turned him away after the season despite him essentially begging to stay. The "if" you suggested is likely a pipe dream.

Name another guy other than Brady who took less than the going rate (or close to it). It's akin to comparing Brady playing at 45 to everyone else in the league. He did it, why can't everyone else?
 

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I'm all for McCord, but it remains to be seen if the Rams can get him in the draft. The only to guarantee that is to overdraft him, and even that is a tough read right now.

One game is not going to sell me on Jimmy G. He's an adequate back up, but as a starter we're back to tanking talk IMO (but maybe not enough to tank properly). I'll take Stafford over ARod any day. ARod is a mess personally and professionally and the Jets turned him away after the season despite him essentially begging to stay. The "if" you suggested is likely a pipe dream.

Name another guy other than Brady who took less than the going rate (or close to it). It's akin to comparing Brady playing at 45 to everyone else in the league. He did it, why can't everyone else?
ok, I'll name another QB who took less to help his team... Patrick Mahomes.
 

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I forgot to add, why did Mahomes do that? He admitted that he saw what Brady did and wanted to do what was best for the team. He said he "worried more about his legacy and winning rings than making money at this point." "It's not about being the highest paid guy."
 

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If the Rams are going to move Stafford and basically play the coming season just for player development, experience and to accumulate Draft capital, then why don't they trade Kupp to the Patriots for Joe Milton and a 7th Round pick. He is just sitting there. McVay would have a big strong-armed, young QB that he could mentor and they may even win a few games.
 
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