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I’m not ready to concede “better”. Maxey is a much more efficient player. Maxey isn’t likely to shoot his team out of games the way Spida has and will continue to do.
He's better. Maxey isn't a #1 and likely won't ever be a #1 but that is all opinion bc as long as Embiid is in Philly he will be a #2.

Mitchell doesn't shoot his team out of games often. He had the same efficiency as Maxey last season but attempted more. He has to carry team especially with lots of injuries. Maxey never had to carry his team, if he did it's very seldom.
 

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You’re the one who sys maxey can’t defend…
He’s still evolving there. There’s so much to offensive basketball though that goes beyond shooting.
 

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Maxey's upside is higher than Mitchell but right now Mitchell is the better player.

Not surprising since 1 is 27 and the other is 22.
 

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Because of my more recent comments ( Spida is a chucker) they’re not likely to have playoff success just like Utah didn’t. Chuckers have value in the regular season. Not so much in the playoffs (unless you’re Kobe or Jordan). It’s not necessarily the Cavs group that will be the problem. It will be Mitchell and his game. Of course, Mitchell won’t see it that way.

He'll fit right in with the Knicks. They don't worry about such things lol.
 

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Eh, Mitchell is CURRENTLY better.

As finished products?

I could totally see it going the other way.
That’s what I’m saying. Older? More experienced? Further developed? Absolutely. If Maxey maxes out at Donovan Mitchell and isn’t able to make others around him better like Mitchell then I’m seriously disappointed and Maxey left meat on the bone with his skill set.
 

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I disagree. It will be more clear as this season progresses. All Mitchell can do is score.
Well I am going by his career up until now. He is not better and nothing suggest he is better or close.

This just means you don't watch Mitchell. He gives a ton of energy on the defensive side of the court. He works hard on that end. He is a better defender than Maxey and better distributor. Plus he is insanely athletic and can get to the rim with ease.

All of that is moot though bc Maxey is not a #1 so there is no comparison. Even if he is more efficient he doesn't have to carry a team like Mitchell.
 

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He'll fit right in with the Knicks. They don't worry about such things lol.
Yep. Knicks. Cavs. And I made the same comment about the Brett Brown Sixers. They didn’t care about fit they just acquired the best player they could and worry about fit later.
 

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I'm surprised there haven't been any Lakers conspiracy theories posted here about Brogdon signing with Klutch.
 

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Maxey's upside is higher than Mitchell but right now Mitchell is the better player.

Not surprising since 1 is 27 and the other is 22.
Even that is stretching it but who knows Maxey's future. Right now he isn't better, like you said.

I would have to see Maxey as a #1. Mitchell carried his team to a #1 seed and a 2nd round matchup. That Philly team can't even get past a 2nd round matchup with Embiid as a #1
 

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Well I am going by his career up until now. He is not better and nothing suggest he is better or close.

This just means you don't watch Mitchell. He gives a ton of energy on the defensive side of the court. He works hard on that end. He is a better defender than Maxey and better distributor. Plus he is insanely athletic and can get to the rim with ease.

All of that is moot though bc Maxey is not a #1 so there is no comparison. Even if he is more efficient he doesn't have to carry a team like Mitchell.
Who in his career has Mitchell made better?
 

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I'm surprised there haven't been any Lakers conspiracy theories posted here about Brogdon signing with Klutch.
It’s Brogdon, not Luka.

Dude is trying to get his ass up outta Portland and is worried about his last decent contract.
 

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It’s Brogdon, not Luka.

Dude is trying to get his ass up outta Portland and is worried about his last decent contract.

He was just 6moty

He’s gonna get paid

But the players being stupid and short sighted may limit his option

Same reason the process even still exists

Without their stupidity harden is already elsewhere with no picks in tow

The absurd amount of luck that turd of an organization has needed to even be relevant is absurd
 

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Who in his career has Mitchell made better?
What kind of stupid question is this? LOL

I will take it with a grain of salt, remember you thought James Harden would be a changed man as a Sixer

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What kind of stupid question is this? LOL
It’s THE question when it comes to the NBA. At 27 years old if you’re the shit, you should be able to easily point to guys they made better. Mitchell hasn’t made anyone better. In fact, he’s probably quelled the development of Mobley.
I will take it with a grain of salt, remember you thought James Harden would be a changed man as a Sixer

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And there’s the white flag of deflection. Why are you bending over backwards to defend a Cav who doesn’t even wanna be there? Weird.
 

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It’s THE question when it comes to the NBA. At 27 years old if you’re the shit, you should be able to easily point to guys they made better. Mitchell hasn’t made anyone better. In fact, he’s probably quelled the development of Mobley.

And there’s the white flag of deflection. Why are you bending over backwards to defend a Cav who doesn’t even wanna be there? Weird.
There anything Mitchell actually said that’s reflective he doesn’t want to be a Cav? That’d be the one guy I’d give up the 2028 pick for, though I’d take those rumors with a grain of salt. NY media doing everything in their power to push him to the Knicks literally the last two years.
 

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Will say Obi Toppin has not helped the Pacers at all through four games… Carlisle should not keep him on too long a leash.
 
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