Thank you Jonathan Quick

[Kings4OT]

It sucks, but really if Quick is somehow lights out against LA im going to be a little pissed at him to be honest. I get stepping uupfor a game, but if he wasnt so bad for so long he would still be a King imo. I think that back injury just catching up to him unfortunately and i dont think hes going to retire gracefully

 

[PuckinUgly57]

UFA prospect after the season. Kings may have used that pick on a goalie anyway. If they sign him it is a steal

No it isn't, you know my stance on prospects. Prove it MFer, why I never jerked off to HF or anyone else, literally 90%+ of prospects don't amount to much 1st round or not. The Kings "stacked pipeline" is living proof of that, they haven't turned out much in almost a decade of drafts.

That said, sure we want to hinge the future nets to another Buffalo prospect? Last one hasn't turned out so well...

=)~~

 

[CaptHowdy00]

'It’s affected us a lot' — Kings' Doughty, Kopitar try to balance emotions after Quick trade

Kopitar, the Kings' captain and longtime star, will have to pull together a group that still seemed to be in some shock Thursday.

theathletic.com

A very good read.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

Here’s my worry, is Copper going to regress now that there is a new goalie in town?
I don’t know much about this new guy, so I have no idea if the Kings got better in goal with this trade.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

It sucks, but really if Quick is somehow lights out against LA im going to be a little pissed at him to be honest. I get stepping uupfor a game, but if he wasnt so bad for so long he would still be a King imo. I think that back injury just catching up to him unfortunately and i dont think hes going to retire gracefully

This is on Petersen, not Quick. If he actually delivered on what he was supposed to be, Quick is the back up, Copley isn't even in LA sporting average numbers and problem solved. I'm more pissed that Blake completely misjudged Petersen and has handcuffed the Kings with a minor league goalie making $5 million a year.

I'm still unsure how I feel about it - I'm seeing things from both an emotional and business standpoint as a fan - but this would never have happened if that dude just did his job.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Here’s my worry, is Copper going to regress now that there is a new goalie in town?
I don’t know much about this new guy, so I have no idea if the Kings got better in goal with this trade.

Copley is over his head. He's a backup, and the Kings have relied on offense to win, not the defense and goaltending we saw. His numbers started to drop weeks ago, I hit it on a post recently. The other shoe is falling, he is not a starter and the Kings cannot go into the playoffs with him. But he's getting the wins, and in some cases he has made saves (big ones in the third against Winnipeg Tuesday, huge in the SO) but there is a reason he is an AHL goalie.

Korpisalo has been good when he is healthy, he wasn't last year. I don't think he is vintage Quick, that has become our standard, but he is much better than any option the Kings have.

We will find out how he does on a team that doesn't bleed high quality chances. Hopefully he delivers.

I also see him being resigned barring a miraculous Cal recovery with him and Copley as the 2 goalies going into 2023-24. Don't think any of us saw this coming.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

It’s so weird not seeing Quick on the bench.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Very strange.

My kids and I have a group text (crazy to think all 4 of my kids have cell phones, even more crazy to think Little Ms Puck you guys were here to hear born will be a legal adult this year) and I sent them links, screen shots and whatnot saying this dude was part of your childhood whether you knownir or not and they all were bummed. Little Ms Puck II has a Quick jersey that she absolutely loves, she got that as a 3 year old 10 years ago and has never wanted to get rid of it.

They couldn't believe Quick is no longer a King but I explained that's the arc of a career and he has had a spectacular one, we were privileged to watch that and enjoy it and what he brought to this franchise will probably never be replicated.

I'm honestly afraid he is going to find that nasty fiery spirit in Vegas, the way things will line up they will face LA and this guy will end LAs season.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

Vilardi seems to be blossoming. Second 10 goal season.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

About freaking time. I still think the Kings marinate prospects much longer than they need to which results in players not fulfilling their potential, the process needs to be sped up. They learn to "play the right way" for years on end, believe that's who they should be and then crap out.

Kempe literally took 7 years, and they paid him, but you can't be handing out a bunch of $5 million deals adding up at once. The trick is to establish some guys and win while others are on ELC/bridge deals. Dumbo was a master at this if you really look at his playbook.

The way the Kings do it you're dishing out heavy contracts at once, leaving minimal to fill out a roster or taking advantage of good players on cheap contracts. You end up with a very top heavy team and not enough depth or a bunch of overpaid B6 players and not enough talent. Lose lose.

Think about it; Vilardi was drafted 6 years ago. He's now showing promise, but in 3.5 years he is eligible for FA status. What have the Kings accomplished during that time? Nothing really.

You keep doing that and every prospect you have worth a damn that surmounts to anything will be winning Cups elsewhere.

 

[Stunner_At_Staples_Kings]

I hate this so much. Quick taking the ice with Vegas for practice.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

Vilardi seems to be blossoming. Second 10 goal season.

Sorry that’s supposed to be 20 goals.

 

[Kings4OT]

Ya, not a fan seeing Quick in another jersey....let alone a Golden Shower jersey

 

[PuckinUgly57]

I watched his media interview, painful to watch. He's wearing a Vegas hat and had a lot of great things to say about Vegas. I'm sure some of that is his professionalism but I'm sure it's also truth. His Vegas gear is en route.

He also says he was surprised by the trade and how it all went down. Habs are in Vegas tomorrow at 3pm, I'm going to catch the game on CI so I can vomit in my coffee or whatever.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

I watched his media interview, painful to watch. He's wearing a Vegas hat and had a lot of great things to say about Vegas. I'm sure some of that is his professionalism but I'm sure it's also truth. His Vegas gear is en route.

He also says he was surprised by the trade and how it all went down. Habs are in Vegas tomorrow at 3pm, I'm going to catch the game on CI so I can vomit in my coffee or whatever.

Is Quick starting in goal for the Showers?

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Is Quick starting in goal for the Showers?

Sure is, been watching the game. He hasn't been tested much. It's 4-2 Knights, first goal was a screen, second one (just now) he gave up over his left shoulder outside tye dots from the right and should have stopped it.

Ouch 4-3 literally as I am finishing this post...should have stopped the third one too.

Nothing has really changed with his play moving to Vegas except he looks very weird in Vegas colors.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

Great article about Quick from LA Times.

Column: Jonathan Quick was the King who transformed Stanley Cup dreams into reality​

BY HELENE ELLIOTT
As the Kings rebuilt yet again in the early 2000s, it became clear their goaltender of the future was likely to be a guy named Jonathan. But which one?
Early comparisons between Jonathan Bernier, their first round draft pick in 2006, and Jonathan Quick, their third round pick, and 72nd overall, in 2005, favored Bernier. He came from Quebec, the cradle of standout goalies, and he had excelled in the high-scoring Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. Quick had played high school hockey at Avon Old Farms in Connecticut. After being drafted he spent two seasons at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
As a pro, Bernier had solid credentials. Quick had a bad habit of oversleeping and being late for minor league bus trips. Missing a meeting with a coach earned him a demotion from the American Hockey League to the ECHL. It was a wake-up call he couldn’t afford to ignore.
“Bernier was drafted in the first round, so…,” Kings president Luc Robitaille said, his tone conveying the respect accorded a prime pick. “But Quickie came in and took the job. That’s what you always say: If you want to make the NHL, you’ve got to take someone’s job. He took it and ran with it.”
Quick learned to set several alarm clocks. He worked at his craft, distinguishing himself among the seven goalies who played for the Kings in 2007-08 by showing the athleticism and unquenchable fire that became his trademarks. He led them to the only two Stanley Cup championships in franchise history, in 2012 and 2014, and fended off challengers to his No. 1 status until this season, when his reflexes slowed and his struggles were undeniable.
The Kings couldn’t win another Cup with him carrying the load. Going on without him seemed almost unthinkable.
He was so much a part of the Kings’ brotherhood and history that they were all shocked when general manager Rob Blake traded Quick to Columbus for brawny defenseman Vladislav Gavrikov and goalie Joonas Korpisalo, a deal announced Wednesday. On paper, the deal makes great sense for a team that was small on defense and inconsistent in goal. But people aren’t paper cutouts.
“I was thinking that Quickie was going to be a King for life and we’re going to play with him the rest of our careers too,” team captain Anze Kopitar said, speaking for himself and defenseman Drew Doughty.
In an intriguing twist, Columbus traded Quick a day later to the Vegas Golden Knights. His value is in his playoff experience, not his recent performances, but his fire still burns — and it was stoked when he landed with a rival who could block the playoff run the Kings believe they can make without him.
“It’s motivating,” Quick told reporters in Las Vegas before he made his Golden Knights debut as the backup to Adin Hill on Friday. “I’m looking forward to being part of this team and do what you want to do every year: you want to win your division, you want to win playoff series, you want to win 16 playoff games. So whatever I can do to help them get there, that’s what I want to do.”
He might not reach his old standards again, but it won’t be for lack of effort.
“He’s had a great career and I know full well today he’ll be ready,” Darryl Sutter, who coached the Kings’ Cup-winning teams and now guides the Flames, said last week. “His whole thing will be, ‘I want to show somebody.’ I can guarantee that.”
Quick’s excellence allowed a low-scoring, eighth-seeded team to blossom into an unstoppable force in the 2012 playoffs. Yet of all the saves he pulled off as the postseason most valuable player, none was more crucial than when his then 2-year-old daughter Madison began to choke on a piece of candy during his post-victory news conference and he dislodged it by patting her on the back. “Sorry, M&M crisis,” he said calmly.
He was the reason the Kings won again in 2014 despite losing the first three games of their first-round series against San Jose and falling behind in each of the next two rounds. “If you ask me what’s the first thing that comes to mind, it’s that he’s probably the fiercest competitor I’ve ever seen,” Robitaille said. “You always hear goalies are different, but he was different in a way where his competitiveness was superior to anyone.
“I know when we were down 3-0 against San Jose, I don’t know when and how but I know he told the team, ‘That’s it. We’re shutting the door. We’re turning it around.’ And we know what happened.”
Sutter called Quick “old style,” his ultimate compliment. “That’s a guy who played a lot of playoff games and played hurt and had major surgeries after a couple of them and still came back. He’s a warrior,” Sutter said. “He’s a great leader in the room. Great work ethic. Great personality. Dominant competitor, I’ll tell you that. A lot of those series…they were tough series. Those teams had good goalies, too, and that was his challenge: he wanted to be better than the other goalie.”
Unlike many of his peers, Quick never yelled at teammates who obscured his view or made his job tougher. He’d fire the puck past the ear of someone who scored on him in practice and he’d sometimes smash his stick against the post in frustration, but he never pointed fingers during games.
“You see other guys around the league throw their hands up when their d-man is screening them and the puck goes in. You’ll never in a million years see Quickie do that,” Doughty told The Los Angeles Times in 2019. “And if there’s a handoff behind the net and it’s clearly one of the d-men’s fault, Quickie is going to pipe up and say it was his fault, when it wasn’t. That’s just the type of guy he is.”
Robitaille admired that too. “That’s what made him so loved by his teammates. He was the ultimate team player,” Robitaille said.
Quick left the Kings as the franchise leader in wins (370), shutouts (57), save percentage (.911), saves (18,188), games played (743) and minutes played (43,215). As a two-time Cup winner, 2012 playoff MVP, two-time U.S. Olympian and twice the winner of the Jennings Trophy as the goalie on the team that gave up the fewest goals, he has a strong case for a place in the Hockey Hall of Fame in addition to whatever honors the Kings eventually bestow.
According to Robitaille, Quick, Doughty, Kopitar and recently retired Dustin Brown — the core of the Cup teams — will receive special recognition when they’re done. “And I don’t know when that will be. And good for Quickie. He’ll play as long as he can,” Robitaille said. “I told him that: play as long as you can. There’s nothing better.”
Quick drove from Southern California to his new job in Las Vegas. Somewhere after he hit Barstow and reached the desert, he said, he became excited about the change of career scenery. An enthusiastic welcome when he arrived helped him shift his focus. “For my first new situation in 16 years I really genuinely feel comfortable already, and these guys have done a great job with that,” he said, “so I’m looking forward to working and winning some games with them.”
Kings goalie Jonathan Quick sits in his gear at the team’s practice facility in El Segundo in December 2009.
(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
It’s sad he didn’t get to leave the Kings on his own terms, but life doesn’t always offer feel-good endings. Salary cap restraints prevented them from keeping him around purely out of sentiment, and he probably wouldn’t have wanted that. Blake had a responsibility to create the best roster now and for future seasons. Quick’s declining performance meant he could no longer be part of that, no matter how deeply he was loved by teammates and fans.
Remember Quick as he was in his prime: a great teammate, superb pressure performer, and the Jonathan who brought the Cup to Los Angeles twice more than most fans dared to dream was possible.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Good write up.

Very grateful for Quick, he fulfilled my dreams as a fan not once but twice. And we all knew the writing was on the wall, I just didn't like how it all went down. I still don't even though it was a business decision. The thing to remember too is Quick was left unprotected in the Seattle draft, they have been trying to move him for years, it just actually and finally happened.

That said, after watching him, it was the right move. He still sported a sub .900 SP, gave up 2 softies after his team spotted him a 3-0 lead - nothing different than what we saw all season long in LA. Also anyone notice like 25% of the Vegas roster is ex Kings (Quick, Martinez, McNab, Hutton, Amadio)? Nutty.

The guy is just done, it's been an amazing ride for him and for us. But Vegas will not be able to bank on him come playoff time.

 

[LAKINGSFAN]

Good write up.

Very grateful for Quick, he fulfilled my dreams as a fan not once but twice. And we all knew the writing was on the wall, I just didn't like how it all went down. I still don't even though it was a business decision. The thing to remember too is Quick was left unprotected in the Seattle draft, they have been trying to move him for years, it just actually and finally happened.

That said, after watching him, it was the right move. He still sported a sub .900 SP, gave up 2 softies after his team spotted him a 3-0 lead - nothing different than what we saw all season long in LA. Also anyone notice like 25% of the Vegas roster is ex Kings (Quick, Martinez, McNab, Hutton, Amadio)? Nutty.

The guy is just done, it's been an amazing ride for him and for us. But Vegas will not be able to bank on him come playoff time.

I think the feeling is mutual for Quick across the board. I think we are all eternally grateful and love the way he played here for so many years.
When you say you dont like the way it all went down, I am not sure what you mean. You mentioned the expansion draft and I was hoping that they would pick him up to free up his salary. It appear Cal is going to be the replacement so something had to be done.
Would we had rather let him ride out the year status quo and let him walk?
I like the trade. Blake brought in a better goalie than what we currently have and a stay at home LD. I for one think we needed at stay at home LD more so than a Chychrun type. My gripe is that I dont like rental players. I wish there was some form of agreement that they would both re-sign here.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

Lemieux traded to Flyers by Kings for MacEwen | NHL.com

Philadelphia also gets 5th-round pick in 2024 NHL Draft, trades Brown to Senators

www.nhl.com

According to this article Flake almost insisted on the Flyers taking Lemieux in the trade MacEwen.
Yeah, I can see that there is about 600k in salary difference. But MacEwen doesn’t seem that much better than Lemieux. Lemieux at least had a a pest streak and could put up a fight. What do the Kings get from MacEwen?