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No it is not. You can keep saying the wrong thing over and over but you won’t be correct. A lock makes the team even with injuries. A bubble guy is not guaranteed…thus he is on the bubble. Then you have guys on the outside looking in.

I agree that Humphries was brought here to be a WR. That doesn’t make him a lock for the team. He has a minimalist contract. If he is outplayed, he is cut.

FFS…how dense are you? Nobody has stated he has to return punts to make the team. There are scenarios where he has to return punts to be kept on the team though.

Your dense. skinsdad stated he had to return punts to make the team. I think Humphries is a lock without returning punts. We are going to keep 6 WR's, cmon on now. There is no way we keep only 5. That's another insane statement. And even if Humphries is the WR6 which is crazy but i will play your game, there is no way he returns punts. They will get a backup DB to do it. Why would they risk Humphries to injury returning punts?
 

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If Carter “wins the punt return battle” and can’t contribute on offense, but Sims is close in the battle but contributes…guess who makes the team...if we keep 6 WRs. If we keep 5 WRs, Humphries may have to return kicks.

If we keep 5 WRs and Humphries does not return punts, then he may not make the team.

Hand-picked…what does that even mean? Fitz doesn’t have a say. Fitz is a one year rental. Humphries is on a one year minimal contract. We have no allegiance to either player.

We all agree that Sims is on the bubble.

Nobody said Carter has to be the best WR. He does have to be competent.

This is where I disagree and we will see how it plays out. I already explained that there is no way we are keeping just 5 WR's. Especially now that Samuel is dinged up. I already explained why Humphries will not return punts. I already explained why Carter was signed here in a crowded WR roster. There is absolutely no chance that Humphries doesn't make this team. Play all your crazy scenarios out, Humphries makes the team. That is my prediction. To think otherwise is crazy IMO.
 

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Careful Dean, skinsdad is wrong all the time but has a tendency to ban people for it

skinsdad was the biggest Haskins supporter. He even provided “tape” (YouTube highlight videos) to strengthen his very weak argument

The guy makes crazy statements and if you call him out on it he cant understand why.
 

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Do you know what “if” means dean ?

Already explained in previous posts. you made a crazy statement and Im commenting on it and giving you my opinion on why I am commenting. That is the whole point of a message board.
 

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Your dense. skinsdad stated he had to return punts to make the team. I think Humphries is a lock without returning punts. We are going to keep 6 WR's, cmon on now. There is no way we keep only 5. That's another insane statement. And even if Humphries is the WR6 which is crazy but i will play your game, there is no way he returns punts. They will get a backup DB to do it. Why would they risk Humphries to injury returning punts?

Show me where dad stated Humphries has to return punts in order to make the team.

I am glad you believe that Humphries is a lock. He isn’t though. His contract states he isn’t a lock.

We will likely keep 6. It is possible we keep 5. Maybe we go 7. If Humphries is the only option to return punts, he will return punts.

So you think Humphries has to be six to return punts…got it. Like Antonio Brown was six for Pittsburgh or Wes Welker was in NE when he returned punts?

Perhaps they get a backup DB to do it. What if we don’t have a backup DB that has ever done it? What is backup DB fumbles?

Why did Pittsburgh and NE risk their far better players returning punts?
 

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This is where I disagree and we will see how it plays out. I already explained that there is no way we are keeping just 5 WR's. Especially now that Samuel is dinged up. I already explained why Humphries will not return punts. I already explained why Carter was signed here in a crowded WR roster. There is absolutely no chance that Humphries doesn't make this team. Play all your crazy scenarios out, Humphries makes the team. That is my prediction. To think otherwise is crazy IMO.

You explained nothing. You speak in absolutes and that is one of your problems.

You stated there is no way we keep only 5. It is likely true we don’t keep only 5 but that is not a “no way.” If we don’t have the players or health, then we don’t keep more. We will likely keep 6. It is also possible we keep 7. With Samuel dinged up, it would be more possible we keep 5 than if he were fully healthy…depending on the extent of the injury.

You stated why you believe Humphries will not return punts. There is no validity in your statement. The best answer would be he hasn’t been a returner in a couple of years, so it is unlikely. The risk of injury is bullshit…why did CeeDee Lamb return punts, Wes Welker, or Antonio Brown?

Carter was signed here to return punts…nobody is arguing that. He still has to be a competent WR…especially with Samuel “dinged up.” Yes two things can be true at once.

So if Humphries is injured, I know crazy idea, you believe he makes the team?

To think we will waste a roster spot on a guy that is injured and on a one year contract is insane.
 

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Show me where dad stated Humphries has to return punts in order to make the team.

I am glad you believe that Humphries is a lock. He isn’t though. His contract states he isn’t a lock.

We will likely keep 6. It is possible we keep 5. Maybe we go 7. If Humphries is the only option to return punts, he will return punts.

So you think Humphries has to be six to return punts…got it. Like Antonio Brown was six for Pittsburgh or Wes Welker was in NE when he returned punts?

Perhaps they get a backup DB to do it. What if we don’t have a backup DB that has ever done it? What is backup DB fumbles?

Why did Pittsburgh and NE risk their far better players returning punts?

He has said it in multiple posts that with our current WR competition he might not make the team if he doesn't return punts. I say that is false.

The contract means shit.

We will not keep 5 take that to the bank. Humphries will not be the only option to return punts on this team.

Humphries doesnt have to be any number to return punts b/c he will not do it.

Very possible the backup db could fail, but I believe Carter was brought here to be the return specialist. That is what he is noted for. He will make the team and be the returner. How many times do I have to say it?

In todays NFL it depends on the situation if a team puts a star player to return punts or KO's. In normal situations there is a specialist.
 

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You explained nothing. You speak in absolutes and that is one of your problems.

You stated there is no way we keep only 5. It is likely true we don’t keep only 5 but that is not a “no way.” If we don’t have the players or health, then we don’t keep more. We will likely keep 6. It is also possible we keep 7. With Samuel dinged up, it would be more possible we keep 5 than if he were fully healthy…depending on the extent of the injury.

You stated why you believe Humphries will not return punts. There is no validity in your statement. The best answer would be he hasn’t been a returner in a couple of years, so it is unlikely. The risk of injury is bullshit…why did CeeDee Lamb return punts, Wes Welker, or Antonio Brown?

Carter was signed here to return punts…nobody is arguing that. He still has to be a competent WR…especially with Samuel “dinged up.” Yes two things can be true at once.

So if Humphries is injured, I know crazy idea, you believe he makes the team?

To think we will waste a roster spot on a guy that is injured and on a one year contract is insane.

Yes it is a "no way" now that Samuel is dinged up. Very doubtful we keep 7. There is validity b/c he wasn't brought here to be a returner. He was brought here to be the slot vet WR. Yes if Humphries as a month long injury he makes the team.

Once again you are totally missing the point in the argument. Humphries was brought here is be a slot WR and contribute not to be a PR. skinsdad has said multiple times that Humphries HAS to contribute on St's to make this WR's squad b/c of our WR competition. Its false. Like I said a 1000 times the 5th Wr spot is the battle between Cam, Harmon, and Agg. The two losers go to the PS. Even if the two losers are better WR's than Carter, Carter still makes the team b/c of his return skills. I can't make it any simpler than that.
 

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He has said it in multiple posts that with our current WR competition he might not make the team if he doesn't return punts. I say that is false.

The contract means shit.

We will not keep 5 take that to the bank. Humphries will not be the only option to return punts on this team.

Humphries doesnt have to be any number to return punts b/c he will not do it.

Very possible the backup db could fail, but I believe Carter was brought here to be the return specialist. That is what he is noted for. He will make the team and be the returner. How many times do I have to say it?

In todays NFL it depends on the situation if a team puts a star player to return punts or KO's. In normal situations there is a specialist.

MIGHT…seriously dude…possibility. I have shown you the scenarios where he may need to return punts.

The contract means everything for a lock. We can’t cut CS because he is under contract for three years. If he is injured, we throw him on the PUP. If Humphries is injured, he gets cut, depending on expected time to miss.

Dude…nobody said we will keep 5. There is a possibility…please look the fucking word up.

Give me a good reason why Humphries will not return punts if we keep TM, CS, DB, AH, Cam, and Harmon. Humphries is the only one that has and can return punts. I am not sure if you have ever paid attention to WRs with RR…he likes them big.

What makes Carter a specialist? He is a middle of the pack returner. Again, say it all you want, it doesn’t make you correct.

So now Adam Humphries is a star? At least now you have said it. You got wood for Humphries.

Hunter Renfroe 56 for 656
Devon Duvernay 20 for 201 with 4 rushes 70 yards
Jakeem Grant 36 for 373
Ray Ray 20 catches, 4 rushes 65 yards
Alex Erickson 12 for 139
Nehemiah Hines 860 yards from scrimmage

Here is the most important one:
Steven Sims- 27 for 266. He contributes on offense.
 

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Yes it is a "no way" now that Samuel is dinged up. Very doubtful we keep 7. There is validity b/c he wasn't brought here to be a returner. He was brought here to be the slot vet WR. Yes if Humphries as a month long injury he makes the team.

Once again you are totally missing the point in the argument. Humphries was brought here is be a slot WR and contribute not to be a PR. skinsdad has said multiple times that Humphries HAS to contribute on St's to make this WR's squad b/c of our WR competition. Its false. Like I said a 1000 times the 5th Wr spot is the battle between Cam, Harmon, and Agg. The two losers go to the PS. Even if the two losers are better WR's than Carter, Carter still makes the team b/c of his return skills. I can't make it any simpler than that.

When did I say it was likely we would keep 7?

Adam Humphries was brought here as a WR…I agree. He can also return punts. One does not preclude the other.

Now you are limiting the injury. Got it. So one month, he makes the team…misses first four games. Do we put him on the 6 week PUP?
How about if he is expected to miss two months? How about ten games? This is where you open yourself up because you speak in absolutes and then fail to look at scenarios.
 

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When did I say it was likely we would keep 7?

Adam Humphries was brought here as a WR…I agree. He can also return punts. One does not preclude the other.

Now you are limiting the injury. Got it. So one month, he makes the team…misses first four games. Do we put him on the 6 week PUP?
How about if he is expected to miss two months? How about ten games? This is where you open yourself up because you speak in absolutes and then fail to look at scenarios.

I gave you my predictions. You give me crazy scenarios. We will see who is right. We will see what happens at Wr and Returner. If somehow Humphries returns punts I will post a "I am wrong message on here".
 

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I gave you my predictions. You give me crazy scenarios. We will see who is right. We will see what happens at Wr and Returner. If somehow Humphries returns punts I will post a "I am wrong message on here".

No…a prediction is “I believe” or something to that effect. “Humphries is a lock“ is a statement. So I gave you scenarios to prove Humphries was not a lock.

You cannot be proven right. It is literally impossible unless Humphries tears his ACL and he still makes the team. You can be proven wrong if he does not make the team for any reason. I cannot be proven wrong. I can be proven right if Humphries does not make the team for any reason.

We will see what happens. My guess is TM, CS, DB, AH, Cam, and Steven Sims make the team. I would rather see Harmon over Steven Sims and Humphries returning punts.
 

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