stevie is at it again...OSUoverBAMA argument

[TexasMan]

Texas beat the PAC 12 south champion

 

[Smart]

dont you think it makes sense for the team with the worse schedule to have a higher MOV? and what does the style or type of team have to do with MOV? A team with a good defense and bad offense should win by more than a team with a bad offense and good defense? that doesnt make any sense. Id prefer Houston. But Alabama being chosen would be unfair for college football.

How does that not make sense. Let's say you put the NFC Pro Bowl defense and have them join an average collegiate offense. Now let's say you put the NFL Pro Bowl offense and have them join an average collegiate defense. Now, have both teams play an average collegiate team. Who do you think will win by more? The answer shouldn't be that hard.

 

[LSUfanFloridaAlumni]

Texas beat the PAC 12 south champion

True.


Tennessee beat Cincinnati and they may win the Big East and Tennessee is awful. I guess it is more telling of the state of the Big East then SEC strength. Especially since Tennessee won 45-23.

 

[boomtown]

True.


Tennessee beat Cincinnati and they may win the Big East and Tennessee is awful. I guess it is more telling of the state of the Big East then SEC strength. Especially since Tennessee won 45-23.

i wouldnt pimp out wins over ucla or cincinnati...the big east is abysmal this year and usc should be the south champ

 

[The Crimson King]

I am the most influential voice in college football during the last decade.

The margin of victory argument slightly favors Alabama, but that is to be expected from a team that has beaten only three teams that have a winning record. When you play no one, as 2003 USC did, it's easy to have a large MOV.

I do not want a rematch. It has nothing to do with security or insecurity. I am a fan of neither team. It is an issue of justice.

The reason many fans are bothered by this potential Bama rematch has little to do with "fear" and more to to with annoyance of the situation. Why?

1. This rematch talk stands conventional thinking on its head. College football operates under the assumption of lose and you're out. If you lose, it's out of your hands. While the BCS does not exclude rematches, conferences are set up, and have historically been set up to determine a champion. Said champion is awarded the opportunity to play against another conference champion (or at least a team from another conference) because of College football teams play roughly 10% of the available teams. That's a pretty small sample when compared to other sports. To omit and exclude the sample pool from the other 90% of teams, several of which have comparable resumes (OSU and VT in particular), has not been the way it works. This is irksome.

2. There is the assumption that a rematch would not be granted the other way around. I think there is a feeling that a rematch would not occur if it were any team other than Bama. Had LSU lost, they would be looking in. To compare, would you see Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Auburn with the identical resume being propped up for a rematch?

Conversely, would Oklahoma or Texas, and not Oklahoma State be virtually dismissed from the conversation with the same resumes? I doubt it. A lot of it lingers from USC 03 where an LSU team with a clearly stronger resume was dismissed by the media.

That's the root of it IMO, not all but the base of people's frustration. Not fear, but sense that Bama is being given a mulligan when I don't think it woudld be given to others.

 

[CrimsonFan]

I am the most influential voice in college football during the last decade.

The margin of victory argument slightly favors Alabama, but that is to be expected from a team that has beaten only three teams that have a winning record. When you play no one, as 2003 USC did, it's easy to have a large MOV.

I do not want a rematch. It has nothing to do with security or insecurity. I am a fan of neither team. It is an issue of justice.

The reason many fans are bothered by this potential Bama rematch has little to do with "fear" and more to to with annoyance of the situation. Why?

1. This rematch talk stands conventional thinking on its head. College football operates under the assumption of lose and you're out. If you lose, it's out of your hands. While the BCS does not exclude rematches, conferences are set up, and have historically been set up to determine a champion. Said champion is awarded the opportunity to play against another conference champion (or at least a team from another conference) because of College football teams play roughly 10% of the available teams. That's a pretty small sample when compared to other sports. To omit and exclude the sample pool from the other 90% of teams, several of which have comparable resumes (OSU and VT in particular), has not been the way it works. This is irksome.

2. There is the assumption that a rematch would not be granted the other way around. I think there is a feeling that a rematch would not occur if it were any team other than Bama. Had LSU lost, they would be looking in. To compare, would you see Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Auburn with the identical resume being propped up for a rematch?

Conversely, would Oklahoma or Texas, and not Oklahoma State be virtually dismissed from the conversation with the same resumes? I doubt it. A lot of it lingers from USC 03 where an LSU team with a clearly stronger resume was dismissed by the media.

That's the root of it IMO, not all but the base of people's frustration. Not fear, but sense that Bama is being given a mulligan when I don't think it woudld be given to others.

 

[EvilVodka]

To compare, would you see Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Auburn with the identical resume being propped up for a rematch?

Conversely, would Oklahoma or Texas, and not Oklahoma State be virtually dismissed from the conversation with the same resumes? I doubt it. A lot of it lingers from USC 03 where an LSU team with a clearly stronger resume was dismissed by the media.

That's the root of it IMO, not all but the base of people's frustration. Not fear, but sense that Bama is being given a mulligan when I don't think it woudld be given to others.

That's why CBS had the blind poll, and the majority of people picked Oklahoma State...

You're always going to have name bias in college football, as long as there's no playoff