SportsHoopla 2017 Hall of Fame Ballot

[StanMarsh51]

I would hope Mussina gets in soon. According to this tracker he's only at 61.1% of 185 votes so far, he needs 75%:

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He'll probaby end up with around 55% this year (since the public ballots tend to inflate players' percentages), but still trending in the right direction nonetheless.

There's not an impressive crop of new pitchers on the ballot for the next 5 years (Rivera and Halladay with the best chance then a dropoff to Pettitte, Hudson, Buehrle), so the chances for both Moose and Schilling are looking good in those years.

 

[Wazmankg]

Barry Bonds

Trevor Hoffman


That's it!

Homer.

 

[soxfan1468927]

He'll probaby end up with around 55% this year (since the public ballots tend to inflate players' percentages), but still trending in the right direction nonetheless.

There's not an impressive crop of new pitchers on the ballot for the next 5 years (Rivera and Halladay with the best chance then a dropoff to Pettitte, Hudson, Buehrle), so the chances for both Moose and Schilling are looking good in those years.

Also Johan Santana next year. I wouldn't vote for him, but I think his 5 year prime of 2004-2008 keeps him on the ballot a while. Finished top 5 in Cy Young voting 5 times. Only players to do that who are retired:

Clemens: 10
Johnson: 9
Maddux: 9
Seaver: 9
Palmer: 8
Martinez: 7
Halladay: 7
Glavine: 6
Carlton: 6
Spahn: 5
Jenkins: 5

 

[dougplayer]

No jack morris??? Bad list. To spicey to

 

[USCDoom]

Glad to see Love for Tim Raines.

Go Expos!!!!

 

[navamind]

At the time it's suspected Clemens started roided ('97), he had:

-3 Cy Youngs (and 2 additional top 3 finishes), 1 MVP
-Around 200 wins
-4 ERA titles (and 2 additional runner up finishes)
-3.06 ERA, 144 ERA+
-3 seasons of 20+ wins, and 6 seasons of 18+ wins
-3x strikeout leader, and 4 additional times as #2 in K's, with 6 seasons of 230+ K's


He could've been below average for the rest of his career and still would've made the HOF with what he accomplished up to that point.

Is it just me or is pre-97 Clemens horrendously underrated? 81.3 bWAR in his time in Boston alone. Even in the "twilight of his career", he had a 139 ERA+ in 1996.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Is it just me or is pre-97 Clemens horrendously underrated? 81.3 bWAR in his time in Boston alone. Even in the "twilight of his career", he had a 139 ERA+ in 1996.

Yes he is. In 11 years from 1986-1996, he had 2 mediocre seasons.

I think it's largely due to the contrast between 1986-1992 and 1993-1996. From 1986-1992 he averaged 257 innings a year with a 160 ERA+ and won 3 Cy Youngs (could have legitimately won 5 in 7 years). 1993-1996 he didn't make the All-Star game in any year, and 2 out of his 4 seasons were not good. And I know they had shortened seasons in 1994 and 1995, but he still finished 26th in IP in 1993, 10th in 1994, and 34th in 1995.

And while 1996 looks like a bounceback from our perspective (2nd highest K/9 of his career up to that point), that Red Sox team wasn't a bad team and he went 10-13.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Also Johan Santana next year. I wouldn't vote for him, but I think his 5 year prime of 2004-2008 keeps him on the ballot a while. Finished top 5 in Cy Young voting 5 times. Only players to do that who are retired:

Clemens: 10
Johnson: 9
Maddux: 9
Seaver: 9
Palmer: 8
Martinez: 7
Halladay: 7
Glavine: 6
Carlton: 6
Spahn: 5
Jenkins: 5

Yea, Santana he had the prime of a HOFer. Unfortunately though there wasn't really much else aside from that prime.

I agree, he'll probably stay on the ballot of a few years.

 

[tducey]

Updated through 1:50 PM EST:

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

I think Bagwell and Raines will make it at this point. Pudge looks good too. Guerrero and possibly Hoffman could as well.

 

[tducey]

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

Updated to today at 1:30 PM EST. Looking good for Raines and Bagwell still. Pudge maybe as well and Vlad Guerrero is getting close to 75%. I believe this week we'll get the final results, looking forward to that.

 

[soxfan1468927]

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

Updated to today at 1:30 PM EST. Looking good for Raines and Bagwell still. Pudge maybe as well and Vlad Guerrero is getting close to 75%. I believe this week we'll get the final results, looking forward to that.

Announcement is Wednesday, so yes we will know then.

 

[tducey]

Announcement is Wednesday, so yes we will know then.

Thanks, I was wondering when it would be. Here's the up to date results:

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

 

[tducey]

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

234 ballots in. Think Bagwell and Raines make it. Pudge is holding on as well. Guess we'll know tomorrow.

 

[calsnowskier]

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

234 ballots in. Think Bagwell and Raines make it. Pudge is holding on as well. Guess we'll know tomorrow.

Traditionally, Thibodaux's numbers compare highly to the actual final tallies.

That said, Bagwell and Raines look like locks. If I had to bet on Pudge, I would guess he comes up just short.

Coming into this ballot, I had Pudge as the only slam-dunk candidate. Surprised to see him so low. And shows what I know about the Hall...

 

[soxfan1468927]

Traditionally, Thibodaux's numbers compare highly to the actual final tallies.

That said, Bagwell and Raines look like locks. If I had to bet on Pudge, I would guess he comes up just short.

Coming into this ballot, I had Pudge as the only slam-dunk candidate. Surprised to see him so low. And shows what I know about the Hall...

I came into this year thinking I would be pleasantly surprised if Rodriguez was first ballot. Only Bench got in the first try, among catchers. If Vlad or Rodriguez are in, it could be the lowest voted first ballot HOFer ever. Only 3 have been under 80%

Robin Yount: 77.5% (1999)
Lou Brock: 79.8% (1985)
Jackie Robinson: 77.5% (1962)

 

[StanMarsh51]

Traditionally, Thibodaux's numbers compare highly to the actual final tallies.

That said, Bagwell and Raines look like locks. If I had to bet on Pudge, I would guess he comes up just short.

Coming into this ballot, I had Pudge as the only slam-dunk candidate. Surprised to see him so low. And shows what I know about the Hall...

There's the PED cloud with Pudge, as Canseco claims he injected him. I'd think that's costing him some votes.

 

[tducey]

Guess we find out in a few minutes but here are Thibodaux's totals as of 5:45 PM EST:

BBHOF Tracker by Ryan Thibodaux.xlsm - Microsoft Excel Online

Bagwell, Raines and Pudge look like they'll get in.

 

[Guy Incognito]

Bagwell, Raines, and Pudge in.

Hoffman misses by 8 votes, Guerrero was also close.

Bagwell, Raines and Rodriguez get Hall of Fame call; Bonds, Clemens gain

 

[soxfan1468927]

Bagwell, Raines, and Pudge in.

Hoffman misses by 8 votes, Guerrero was also close.

Bagwell, Raines and Rodriguez get Hall of Fame call; Bonds, Clemens gain

Hoffman actually missed by 5 votes.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm happy Raines finally got in. Still don't know why it took this long but whatever, he's in and that's all that really matters. Congrats to Bagwell also.
Bonds and Clemens. Okay, I get punishing them for the roids and the lying to congress and the fact that they were colossal douchebags to the media and nobody likes them and yada, yada. Hell, I couldn't stand either of them. However, it's time to put that shit to bed for good. Both of these guys would have been 1st ballot locks if not for the righteous indignation. They kept them out for 5 years. That's enough punishment, imo.
The biggest beef I have with the voters is not that, though. My biggest beef is a guy who gets this fantastic honor and basically spits in the face of the hall and all the fans by submitting a blank ballot. These guys that get to vote should be required to have 2 names minimum on their ballot or get their vote immediately and permanently revoked, imho.