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Sox overtake 1st place, Bruins dispose of Rangers easily, The world is right again...

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No it isn't. I know what and where Cueto came from. I also know that Garza is a typical American pussy.

Dont mess with the Latins. They don't fuck around.

Dumbest statement ever. Historically Latins have been the easiest to pick on. See colonization.

But to save time just watch what Johnny Cueto does when he is threatened.. Kicks like a little bitch.
 

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Felix is down 4 mph from 2011. It isn't the speed, it's the movement. Most of the guys in the majors can hit a 97 mph fastball if it has no movement

CC went from mid to low 90's...to upper 88-91....

His dominance was never based on fastball movement...it was deception coupled with his change up...and so far without the harder fastball? His changeup is getting pummelled...

Not saying it's time to wheel out the gurney...but this is almost June...I'd be concerned if he had a B on his hat...that's for damned sure...
 

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wrong...

Twins and the Indians...

Twins? Garbage...Indians? one of the better AL lineups...and he pitched a heckava game...

Not sold he'll sustain this for 200 innings...but if him and dempster flip flop all year between being awful and damned good? Combined with buchholz and lester? Solid top 4..

Still a pitcher short IMO...but solid none-the less...

The Lester demise is slower than usual but it has certainly arrived
 

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I wouldn't guess that since he had been cherry picking their distance from first place now that I shut him up when he was humping OBP like a dumbass.


OBP has to be put into perspective. OBP has more value with leadoff hitters than it does with slow-footed power hitters. A walk to a guy like Michael Bourne can cause more havoc than a walk to a guy like David Ortiz.
 

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No it isn't. I know what and where Cueto came from. I also know that Garza is a typical American pussy.

Dont mess with the Latins. They don't fuck around.

guillermo mota......latin....not backing your claim up
 

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Why did you leave out part of the season?

Because the discussion was about how the Jays are trending upwards, and the point was that we're over a month now with no movement in the standings?

I'm not sure what pointing out they were 4.5 back on April 21st and 9.5 back now does to weaken my point, but I'm sure it makes sense in your head
 

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"All they have to do is play win 2 out of every three games for the rest of the year (74-37) and they win 96...."

never mind the fact they haven't shown they can go on that kind of run for more than a couple games at a time...

nope they haven't shown that. since May 5th the jays have played series against

red sox - won 2 of 3
rays- won 2 of 3
giants -won 2 of 2
yankees- loss 2 of 2
orioles - tie 2 to 2
and playing the braves now and took the first game of the series.

that's a record of 9-6 but they haven't been playing better. riiiiiiight
 

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CC went from mid to low 90's...to upper 88-91....

His dominance was never based on fastball movement...it was deception coupled with his change up...and so far without the harder fastball? His changeup is getting pummelled...

Not saying it's time to wheel out the gurney...but this is almost June...I'd be concerned if he had a B on his hat...that's for damned sure...

So he needs to slow down his change up. Problem solved. That's what Felix did.
 

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nope they haven't shown that. since May 5th the jays have played series against

red sox - won 2 of 3
rays- won 2 of 3
giants -won 2 of 2
yankees- loss 2 of 2
orioles - tie 2 to 2
and playing the braves now and took the first game of the series.

that's a record of 9-6 but they haven't been playing better. riiiiiiight

how many games have they made up during that run??? on anyone in the division??? they are still 4.5 out of 4th place
 

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Because the discussion was about how the Jays are trending upwards, and the point was that we're over a month now with no movement in the standings?

I'm not sure what pointing out they were 4.5 back on April 21st and 9.5 back now does to weaken my point, but I'm sure it makes sense in your head

The blue Jays are playing better baseball. That's obvious. Why you keep cherry picking stats to attempt to state otherwise is not obvious. More than likely your continued obsession with heatwave.
 

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So he needs to slow down his change up. Problem solved. That's what Felix did.

Let's just hope that Felix hasn't gotten the "justgotpaiditis" that too many guys get affected with
 

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nope they haven't shown that. since May 5th the jays have played series against

red sox - won 2 of 3
rays- won 2 of 3
giants -won 2 of 2
yankees- loss 2 of 2
orioles - tie 2 to 2
and playing the braves now and took the first game of the series.

that's a record of 9-6 but they haven't been playing better. riiiiiiight

9.5 out on may 5th. 9.5 out today

At that rate, they'll be in 1st place by.....
 

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So he needs to slow down his change up. Problem solved. That's what Felix did.

He did that....it's down similarly...and it's getting pummeled...

My point? Sudden dramatic drops in velocity? Should be cause for concern...that is all...
 

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Wasn't the Dominican colonized by the French? They are the biggest pussies in the carribean. Never heard of the great Dominican boxer.. Plenty of Puerto ricans. Dominicans are pussy french trash.
 

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how many games have they made up during that run??? on anyone in the division??? they are still 4.5 out of 4th place

It's amazing how he "still thinks they'll finish in 1st place" based on a timeframe in which they made up 0 games in the standings
 

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OBP has to be put into perspective. OBP has more value with leadoff hitters than it does with slow-footed power hitters. A walk to a guy like Michael Bourne can cause more havoc than a walk to a guy like David Ortiz.

so him humping JPA's OBP is totally overrated is what you are saying huh.. yeah I agree
 

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Let's just hope that Felix hasn't gotten the "justgotpaiditis" that too many guys get affected with

He signed a 5-year/$90 million contract prior to 2010 and it didn't seem to slow him down any. His heart is above reproach. It's the mileage on his arm that's the problem.
 
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